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Shutter Count On Canon Cameras
Nov 22, 2021 14:10:58   #
Tom 0933 Loc: East Troy, Wisconsin
 
I'm trying "Free Shutter Count" to determine the counts on my cameras.
It works fine on my T6i and 5D Mark 2, but on newer released models it has the inability to show the shutter count, only the serial number.
Has this to do with Canon's firmware preventing for the shutter count to show up?

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Nov 22, 2021 14:17:57   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Tom 0933 wrote:
I'm trying "Free Shutter Count" to determine the counts on my cameras.
It works fine on my T6i and 5D Mark 2, but on newer released models it has the inability to show the shutter count, only the serial number.
Has this to do with Canon's firmware preventing for the shutter count to show up?

More not making it available than preventing. Maybe the extraction software needs an update to accommodate the newer cameras?

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Nov 23, 2021 06:00:24   #
Jrhoffman75 Loc: Conway, New Hampshire
 
This is for Mac computers:

https://www.direstudio.com/shuttercount/

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Nov 23, 2021 09:24:36   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Canons can be a bit of a challenge.

According to the list on their site, these are the Canon cameras supported for shutter count.
Canon EOS 1DS Mark II, Canon EOS 1DS Mark II, Canon EOS 5D, Canon EOS 60D, Canon EOS-1D, Canon EOS-1D Mark II, Canon EOS-1D Mark II N, Canon EOS-1Ds, Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II
“Shuttercount” app from Apple for Mac $1.99
http://www.direstudio.com/shuttercount
http://www.shutteractuations.com/canon-eos-camera-shutter-lifetime/
http://eosmsg.software.informer.com/download/
http://swainhart.org/how-to-find-the-shutter-count-on-a-canon-5d-mark-ii/

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Nov 23, 2021 09:43:26   #
AntonioReyna Loc: Los Angeles, California
 
Not directly responsive but here in Seattle Craiglist there is a 1DX body for sale for $700-800 with 440,000 shots and seller says it works great. I have used Canons forever and have shot a lot at times. Never had a shutter problem.

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Nov 23, 2021 09:59:16   #
Jrhoffman75 Loc: Conway, New Hampshire
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Canons can be a bit of a challenge.

According to the list on their site, these are the Canon cameras supported for shutter count.
Canon EOS 1DS Mark II, Canon EOS 1DS Mark II, Canon EOS 5D, Canon EOS 60D, Canon EOS-1D, Canon EOS-1D Mark II, Canon EOS-1D Mark II N, Canon EOS-1Ds, Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II
“Shuttercount” app from Apple for Mac $1.99
http://www.direstudio.com/shuttercount
http://www.shutteractuations.com/canon-eos-camera-shutter-lifetime/
http://eosmsg.software.informer.com/download/
http://swainhart.org/how-to-find-the-shutter-count-on-a-canon-5d-mark-ii/
Canons can be a bit of a challenge. br br Accordi... (show quote)

I think that is old info for Shuttercount



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Nov 23, 2021 10:19:55   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Jrhoffman75 wrote:
I think that is old info for Shuttercount


Thanks

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Nov 23, 2021 16:37:11   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
AntonioReyna wrote:
...there is a 1DX body... with 440,000 shots... seller says it works great.... Never had a shutter problem.


Shutter count is like mileage on a car. It gives you some idea how much use the camera has had and a very rough idea of how much life it might still have in it.

And it has to do with a lot more than just the shutter... just as in a car there are a lot more moving parts than just the odometer. There are mechanical components such as the mirror mechanism in a DSLR and all those buttons, switches, doors, weather seals and electronic components.

But, like miles on a car, not all clicks on a camera are equal. Someone who has only ever shot still photos with a camera might have a high shutter count, but only very little time on the electronic components. If someone averaged 1/250 shutter speed and only shot stills, they would need to take almost 1 million shots (900,000 actually) to put a full hour of time on the camera. In contrast, someone who shoots a lot of video might rack up very few clicks, but a lot of time. To reach the same hour of usage, a videographer would only need to take 250 fifteen second video clips.

I'm pretty sure Canon rated both the original 1DX and the 1DX Mark II to give 400,000 shutter actuations. With the 1DX Mark III it was increased to 500,000. But these are just MTBE or "mean time between failure" estimates... so a lot of them can be expected to last well beyond the rating. Also, the rating is based upon working knowledge of the components being used to build the camera, not on any sort of actual durability testing.

There's a website that gathers information about camera durability that may be useful, although it's purely voluntary and far from scientific data so take it with a grain of salt. At that site a relatively small sample of 1DX show that approx. 3/4 were still working with between 500,001 and 1,000,000 clicks on them. It's a very small sample, though: Out of 12 1DX there were 9 still working and 3 that died with this level of usage. Two more even exceeded 1 million clicks, but neither of them survived to 2 million. http://www.olegkikin.com/shutterlife/canon_eos1d_x.htm

In fact, you can find info on most cameras at that site: http://www.olegkikin.com/shutterlife/sitemap.php

But, again, it's far from scientific data. Many people don't know or report the shutter count when their camera fails. Plus cameras can fail for any number of reasons... included improper use... and might get reported. There's no confirmation of the information submitted, either... anyone can submit whatever they like. Through their factory service departments, the camera manufacturers probably have much better idea of the durability of their cameras.... but they don't share that info.

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Nov 23, 2021 22:24:37   #
dwmoar Loc: Oregon, Willamette Valley
 
Tom 0933 wrote:
I'm trying "Free Shutter Count" to determine the counts on my cameras.
It works fine on my T6i and 5D Mark 2, but on newer released models it has the inability to show the shutter count, only the serial number.
Has this to do with Canon's firmware preventing for the shutter count to show up?


I your camera supports Magic Lantern you can see your shutter count using ML. I installed it on my 50D and also on my 5D Classic.

Yes it is 280K and still going strong.

Magic Lantern supports these cameras https://builds.magiclantern.fm/

Canon 50D running Magic Lantern Shutter Count
Canon 50D running Magic Lantern Shutter Count...
(Download)

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