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Nov 22, 2021 18:11:05   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
IMO, for sports, the higher FPS of crop frame trumps affordable ISO FF advantage - unless we are talking $6K bodies for Sports Illustrated work. ....
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Nov 22, 2021 19:41:53   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
imagemeister wrote:
IMO, for sports, the higher FPS of crop frame trumps affordable ISO FF advantage - unless we are talking $6K bodies for Sports Illustrated work. ....
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Depends on how well you know the sport and can anticipate and how dark the gym is.

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Nov 22, 2021 19:55:34   #
fstoprookie Loc: Central Valley of California
 
Wags wrote:
Basketball for grade/middle/high school is getting started. I have grandkids at all levels and truly enjoy shooting their games. It’s a great way for me to stay connected with them. Some of the games are in old very poorly lit gyms. I shoot with the Nikon D500 and have used the following lenses: TAMRON 18-400: Overall, I like this lens, but I really don’t like what I get in low light situations. Tamron 70-200: Works well in low light, but very difficult to get close up shots. Tamron 24-70: also good in low light, but I’m limited with the longer shots that then require a lot of cropping. I’d be very interested in hearing some lens suggestions for shooting indoors. Thanks in advance. Budget? $1,000-ish.
Basketball for grade/middle/high school is getting... (show quote)


Hi Wags - I shoot HS sports all the time. You need a f2.8, 24-70mm lens for indoor sports and get under the basket and stay out of the REF's way. Don't try to shoot from one end of the court. Rotate the shots every quarter. That way you will get both offense and defense shots. I shoot Auto ISO and take care of the noise in Post processing with Lightroom CC and Topaz Denoise AI. The D500 is a GREAT camera for shooting sports - I had one as a backup to my D5 and now use a Z6II as my backup. Good Luck with your H S sports shooting. All my Grandchildren have graduated and now I shoot HS sports as a fun business.



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Nov 22, 2021 20:24:25   #
Canisdirus
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Your two f/2.8 zooms are the lenses you need and already own. Just practice knowing which to mount for the distance to the players / action for a given situation.


Listen to this guy. He's right. Your lenses are fine...in fact...all you need.
What you lack is the low light capability on the receiving end...your camera body.
Get a used D810...which is in your price range...under 1000.

It will make all the difference.

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Nov 22, 2021 20:35:26   #
OzWizard
 
Trying to cover the entire floor of the basketball court may be too much. A full frame body will give you better performance. 70-200 2.8 should be fine. I use an 85 mm (prime) 1.8 inside the half court line, and move to the other end of the court as needed.

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Nov 22, 2021 21:11:31   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Listen to this guy. He's right. Your lenses are fine...in fact...all you need.
What you lack is the low light capability on the receiving end...your camera body.
Get a used D810...which is in your price range...under 1000.

It will make all the difference.


D810= a dated sensor with 5FPS ------- CURRENT state of the art D500=10FPS
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Nov 22, 2021 21:15:44   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
fstoprookie wrote:
Hi Wags - I shoot HS sports all the time. You need a f2.8, 24-70mm lens for indoor sports and get under the basket and stay out of the REF's way. Don't try to shoot from one end of the court. Rotate the shots every quarter. That way you will get both offense and defense shots. I shoot Auto ISO and take care of the noise in Post processing with Lightroom CC and Topaz Denoise AI. The D500 is a GREAT camera for shooting sports - I had one as a backup to my D5 and now use a Z6II as my backup. Good Luck with your H S sports shooting. All my Grandchildren have graduated and now I shoot HS sports as a fun business.
Hi Wags - I shoot HS sports all the time. You need... (show quote)


Nice shot and good info. What was the equip. used on this one?

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Nov 22, 2021 22:03:38   #
fstoprookie Loc: Central Valley of California
 
Jules Karney wrote:
Nice shot and good info. What was the equip. used on this one?


Thanks Jules

Shot with a D-5, 24-70mm f2.8 lens @ 70mm, Manual, ISO 3200@ 1/500. My Grandson with Ripon Christian at a Riverbank Tournament in 2016. He Graduate this spring from Cal Baptist with an Engineering Degree. I'm biased, but he really is a great young man that already has a job lined up. It was REALLY fun photographing and watching him play Football & Basketball

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Nov 22, 2021 22:54:23   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
imagemeister wrote:
D810= a dated sensor with 5FPS ------- CURRENT state of the art D500=10FPS
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I would suggest a D750 instead. 6.5 fps vs 10 fps, but almost a full stop better high ISO performance. (Source: https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm ). Personally (and I shoot indoor HS sports weekly), I’d take that extra stop over a 50% increase in fps any day.

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Nov 22, 2021 23:36:51   #
Canisdirus
 
imagemeister wrote:
D810= a dated sensor with 5FPS ------- CURRENT state of the art D500=10FPS
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He wants low light capability...FF gets him there.

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Nov 22, 2021 23:46:33   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
TriX wrote:
I would suggest a D750 instead. 6.5 fps vs 10 fps, but almost a full stop better high ISO performance. (Source: https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm ). Personally (and I shoot indoor HS sports weekly), I’d take that extra stop over a 50% increase in fps any day.


He can get the extra stop from a faster/shorter lens.....

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Nov 23, 2021 00:08:47   #
Canisdirus
 
imagemeister wrote:
He can get the extra stop from a faster/shorter lens.....


Well sure...many ways to get there.
But he is shooting sports indoors...and 70mm is about as short as you want to go...bare minimum.
He is already at f/2.8...

No, FF camera is the best way to spend that grand.

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Nov 23, 2021 06:23:56   #
SkyKing Loc: Thompson Ridge, NY
 
…I always thought the
Sigma 50-150mm f/2.8 EX DC OS HSM APO Lens for Nikon F might be a good choice for indoor sports on a DX camera (75-225 range with DX)…$775…?

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Nov 23, 2021 08:50:18   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Well sure...many ways to get there.
But he is shooting sports indoors...and 70mm is about as short as you want to go...bare minimum.
He is already at f/2.8...

No, FF camera is the best way to spend that grand.


f2 is better in all respects and a Nikon lens also in all respects (AF) and 135 is the longest affordibly available for the OP (200mm equivalent )

But yes, money is no object, FF @ 10+ FPS and 200mm f2 is BEST
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Nov 23, 2021 08:58:54   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
SkyKing wrote:
…I always thought the
Sigma 50-150mm f/2.8 EX DC OS HSM APO Lens for Nikon F might be a good choice for indoor sports on a DX camera (75-225 range with DX)…$775…?


A good lens to consider ! - if you accept a f2.8 as a possibility. There are 3 versions of this lens - the OS version being the latest heaviest most expensive. My biggest concern (again) would be the AF - being a non-Nikon lens. My money gets a Nikon f2 lens on a crop frame. ......FF ? yes, 2.8 more of a possibilty.
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