Being New to Photography
Oct 31, 2021 11:45:53 #
clickety wrote:
Many fail to differentiate between an ‘opinion’, an ’explanation’, a ‘suggestion’, a ‘directive’ or a ‘mandate’. Human nature seems biased towards the latter.
I think in a way this forum represents a microcosm of the nation as a whole, somewhat tribal.
Oct 31, 2021 11:46:41 #
clickety wrote:
Many fail to differentiate between an ‘opinion’, an ’explanation’, a ‘suggestion’, a ‘directive’ or a ‘mandate’. Human nature seems biased towards the latter.
I take mostly all as opinion,
some as opinionated.
Oct 31, 2021 14:46:26 #
quixdraw wrote:
Compared to some other places, UHH is mild, calm and polite!
Really? I haven't found this at all, quite the opposite and lots of bad information along with the good information.
Oct 31, 2021 16:36:14 #
Anyone regardless of age or experience can take up photography at any stage if it's technology. Come on gang- it's 2021 and many folks of all ages groups be kinda tech-savvy, especially the kids!
Having worked with old unsophisticated gear and toiling away in a dark room is not necessarily a prerequisite to mastering and appreciating today's imaging methods and technologies. If you have the long and old-time experience it can be an asset but only if you know how to transition this experience into modern methodologies- if you care to do that.
There is nothing wrong with continuing in film photography or even revisiting and decommissioning older and obsolete processes. It is useless and fruitless, however, to pine for the past underappreciate and deride the potential of the latest technologies. Folks with artistic talent and/or technical inclination will manage well the old and the new.
Having worked with old unsophisticated gear and toiling away in a dark room is not necessarily a prerequisite to mastering and appreciating today's imaging methods and technologies. If you have the long and old-time experience it can be an asset but only if you know how to transition this experience into modern methodologies- if you care to do that.
There is nothing wrong with continuing in film photography or even revisiting and decommissioning older and obsolete processes. It is useless and fruitless, however, to pine for the past underappreciate and deride the potential of the latest technologies. Folks with artistic talent and/or technical inclination will manage well the old and the new.
Oct 31, 2021 17:29:58 #
jerryc41 wrote:
Funny, but my experience has been just the opposite, with people apologizing because they thought they might have offended someone. I haven't seen the level of personal attack we have here on other forums.
Yes..The Attic is one area that isn't for the faint-hearted!
Oct 31, 2021 18:31:05 #
I am well equipped, as per on small part of my education, to tolerate some of the shenanigans that sometimes occur on this forum. I attend a junior high school, nowadays call middle school, in New York City. The 7th and 8th grad was like purgatory. Some kids, in early adolescence, are at that awkward stage of life where they are some difficult personality traits to contend with. When the is an argument, a disagreement, or differences of opinion, in some cases, rather than healthy debate, name-calling, bullying, and oftentimes fistfights would ensue. There were cliques-those perceived as the bad students vs. the good students. All the bad stuff like prejudice, shaming, stereotyping, kinda vigilantism and some favouritism on the part of teachers seemed to become amplified and omnipresent. On some days "school" was an exercise in surrealism.
Good thing is, most kids will and did mature and by the time they entered high school, many were well on the way to becoming productive and kinder human beings. Some folks, however, regardless of their level of education, never mature emotionally. Thus, the sarcastic quips, bullying newcomers, name-calling and amateur psychologists telling folks they are paranoid, misanthropic, or just plain "stupid"! Fortunately, around here, the kind and helpful folks outnumber the less amicable types. I prefer to ignore the rough stuff and get on with business.
Some folks waste lots of time and space on picayune matters, taking folks to tasks on spelling and grammatical errors and writing styles. More attention shouldd be paid to photographic and technical content. Others groan about the length of threads, etc. If a thread or post is no longer of interest, it is best to move on to another thread or compose a new one.
They use to call the Internet the "information highway". I always thought that was a good analogy. Highways are built to improve transportation infrcturcture and facilitate rapid and safe travel. Sadly, there are always the abusers of all things public. Some folks are road hogs, drive while intoxicated, travel at excessive speed, and cause injury and death. The Internet has its trolls, scammers misinformation, and just place rude folks. There, however, is lots of great things and advantages online. Some of the bad stuff just comes with terriritry- drive defensively and carefully and enjoy the sceneary!
Good thing is, most kids will and did mature and by the time they entered high school, many were well on the way to becoming productive and kinder human beings. Some folks, however, regardless of their level of education, never mature emotionally. Thus, the sarcastic quips, bullying newcomers, name-calling and amateur psychologists telling folks they are paranoid, misanthropic, or just plain "stupid"! Fortunately, around here, the kind and helpful folks outnumber the less amicable types. I prefer to ignore the rough stuff and get on with business.
Some folks waste lots of time and space on picayune matters, taking folks to tasks on spelling and grammatical errors and writing styles. More attention shouldd be paid to photographic and technical content. Others groan about the length of threads, etc. If a thread or post is no longer of interest, it is best to move on to another thread or compose a new one.
They use to call the Internet the "information highway". I always thought that was a good analogy. Highways are built to improve transportation infrcturcture and facilitate rapid and safe travel. Sadly, there are always the abusers of all things public. Some folks are road hogs, drive while intoxicated, travel at excessive speed, and cause injury and death. The Internet has its trolls, scammers misinformation, and just place rude folks. There, however, is lots of great things and advantages online. Some of the bad stuff just comes with terriritry- drive defensively and carefully and enjoy the sceneary!
Oct 31, 2021 18:44:52 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
And look at the help they offer ...
shoot in RAW
shoot in Manual
buy a book on Exposure
your camera is the wrong brand
your camera doesn't have enough pixels
you're not a photographer if you don't own the most expensive camera
you're not a photographer if you edit in 8-bit
you can't succeed if your camera has a mirror
It's enough to make someone just use their phone ...
shoot in RAW
shoot in Manual
buy a book on Exposure
your camera is the wrong brand
your camera doesn't have enough pixels
you're not a photographer if you don't own the most expensive camera
you're not a photographer if you edit in 8-bit
you can't succeed if your camera has a mirror
It's enough to make someone just use their phone ...
And that's exactly what they ultimately choose. Spoken to a few of the very young who would like to "get into" photography. First issue is cost. Secondly, there is a lot to learn and the younger generations don't always have the patience. Finally, if they get past number one and even if they do have number two, what you stated above will simply end it for them.
Photography needs a new approach and direction for the younger market. A new type of camera (mirrorless) isn't going to do it.
Nov 1, 2021 06:04:32 #
quixdraw wrote:
Compared to some other places, UHH is mild, calm and polite!
Bull !!! Very nasty at times.
Nov 1, 2021 06:21:00 #
jerryc41 wrote:
I can't imagine what it's like to be new to photog... (show quote)
I bet you didn't have videos at your fingertips to show you everything you ever wanted to know about photography ... and anything else you can think of.
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Nov 1, 2021 07:13:30 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
And look at the help they offer ...
shoot in RAW
shoot in Manual
buy a book on Exposure
your camera is the wrong brand
your camera doesn't have enough pixels
you're not a photographer if you don't own the most expensive camera
you're not a photographer if you edit in 8-bit
you can't succeed if your camera has a mirror
It's enough to make someone just use their phone ...
shoot in RAW
shoot in Manual
buy a book on Exposure
your camera is the wrong brand
your camera doesn't have enough pixels
you're not a photographer if you don't own the most expensive camera
you're not a photographer if you edit in 8-bit
you can't succeed if your camera has a mirror
It's enough to make someone just use their phone ...
I agree with you.
Nov 1, 2021 07:30:34 #
Nov 1, 2021 07:32:22 #
UHH has been very helpful solving problems for me. As an adult I know how to sort through many types of people and their responses. There are thousands of people on this forum. Instead of being offended I occasionally get a kick out of the few goofies and their comments
Nov 1, 2021 07:40:26 #
jerryc41 wrote:
I can't imagine what it's like to be new to photog... (show quote)
You didn't have to figure out how to use it off "Auto" when you were 10. So why is it a problem now?
Nov 1, 2021 07:45:25 #
Fear of the Professional mode defeats more photographers than any other setting on their camera. Followed closely by filters.
Nov 1, 2021 07:55:52 #
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