Beware of homebuilder putting in wrong cable
Oct 24, 2021 11:10:23 #
We just moved into a new home. My son is techno savvy with his own server. He designed our house to have AT&T 1 gig cable come into the utility room where his server is, so the router could be there as well. The building supervisor acted like he knew exactly what was needed but put coax from the outside to the utility room. Unfortunately, AT&T runs fiber optic all the way to the router. It cost me $300 to put an access hole in the garage and AT&T ran fiber optic to my son's room on the second floor where it connected to the Cat6 port in his room, effectively costing us the use of that port. I feel like asking for my money back for the cost of that port.
My son was ticked because he had wanted to use that port to run streamed movies from his server. He does have Cat6 access in the media room upstairs.
Bottom line, if you're building, make sure the builder puts in fiber optic. Also, you might put in you contract to put blue smurfs around all your Cat6 and important wiring. If we'd had that we would have had no problem in replacing the coax.
My son was ticked because he had wanted to use that port to run streamed movies from his server. He does have Cat6 access in the media room upstairs.
Bottom line, if you're building, make sure the builder puts in fiber optic. Also, you might put in you contract to put blue smurfs around all your Cat6 and important wiring. If we'd had that we would have had no problem in replacing the coax.
Oct 24, 2021 11:30:51 #
Oct 24, 2021 11:42:29 #
Longshadow wrote:
Pray tell, what are blue Smurfs?
Same question.
I think he means conduit.
It’s expensive, but running conduit with strings in it lets you put in and change out the wiring for whatever you need.
We have a wiring closet that terminates our cable and Internet/phone lines, but it’s all to old standards common in 1999.
Oct 24, 2021 12:01:06 #
Oct 24, 2021 12:48:26 #
jerryc41 wrote:
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I would have said conduit.
They make gray also.....
Oct 24, 2021 20:41:03 #
jerryc41 wrote:
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Conduit by any other name...
Oct 24, 2021 20:41:34 #
Oct 24, 2021 20:48:55 #
Longshadow wrote:
Romex.....
Romex is sheathed cable and has many specs. It's commonly used for outlet and lighting circuits (14-2 w/g, 14-3 w/g, 12-2 w/g, 12-3 w/g) or dryers (10-3 w/g) in 15, 20, and 30 amp circuits. It doesn't make sense for RF or data applications.
Oct 24, 2021 20:54:21 #
burkphoto wrote:
Romex is sheathed cable and has many specs. It's commonly used for outlet and lighting circuits (14-2 w/g, 14-3 w/g, 12-2 w/g, 12-3 w/g) or dryers (10-3 w/g) in 15, 20, and 30 amp circuits. It doesn't make sense for RF or data applications.
Cable in a conduit, how about that, what will they think of next...
No dissertation on the physics of how it bends?
Oct 24, 2021 21:14:33 #
Longshadow wrote:
Cable in a conduit, how about that, what will they think of next...
No dissertation on the physics of how it bends?
No dissertation on the physics of how it bends?
I once participated in wiring a new photo lab 90,000 square foot building, as we installed cabling for our AS-400. It all went into the ceiling (fire-rated insulation, of course), and down the metal-studded walls using conduits. Over the years, we removed a lot of that cable and replaced it three times with network cabling for three different kinds of network architectures. It was great to use the same wall outlets in offices and production rooms. (We used PCs as AS/400 terminals via the Client Access 400 app.)
Oct 25, 2021 07:06:17 #
Longshadow wrote:
Pray tell, what are blue Smurfs?
LV conduit although the standard is orange.
Oct 25, 2021 09:02:23 #
Longshadow wrote:
I would have said conduit.
They make gray also.....
They make gray also.....
"Can...do...it..." <-- Standard for supervisors for building houses. As in "No problem, I ......."
Oct 25, 2021 09:45:37 #
Tote1940
Loc: Dallas
When we built installed plastic pipe around 2” leaving an string inside to help pull future cables through
From electronics closet to several locations in house
No Blue Smurfs 10 years ago
From electronics closet to several locations in house
No Blue Smurfs 10 years ago
Oct 25, 2021 09:58:05 #
SteveR wrote:
We just moved into a new home. My son is techno s... (show quote)
Having the builder pull fiber optic to the modem/router is wasteful as AT&T, CenturyLink and others will pull their fiber directly to the modem/router. If building set up an entry location and preinstall a pull cord if you need to work it through the rafters.
If you want really fast connectivity in your home install Corning Fiber optic cables that available with a number of connector types preinstalled.
These cables give a remotely located(but directly connected) RAID or other storage device up to 20 Gps connectivity.
Examples
Oct 25, 2021 10:06:33 #
Lazy, or crooked, workmen and contractors figure if something will be hidden behind a wall they can take shortcuts and no one will know. Or if some feature will last at least 6 months, no one will remember who to blame when the feature fails. Or, for instance, the carpenters think it's the insulation installers' job to seal the opening for the windows. The insulation installers think it's the carpenters' job. Regardless, the lack of foam and insulation gets covered up and no one can tell... until winter.
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