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Oct 6, 2021 14:58:35   #
Dano Loc: North Carolina
 
I'm currently using a Canon EOS 80d (which has been great for my needs) but have been thinking about moving to a full frame. I mostly shoot portrait, some sports, and am currently getting into cave photography. My rationale for full frame is mostly to take full advantage of the L glass that I have and to increase low-light capabilities (my #1 motivator). My two primary constraints are price (trying to stay around or under $1k for a body so I can stay married) and size (anything larger than the 80d will be challenging based on how I transport my equipment, especially when caving, which knocks out the 5d's).

I've been looking at both the 6d mark II and the mirrorless RP as a replacement for my 80d. I know all 3 of these have very similar technology, but both full frames would give me a significant bump in IOS. Both choices would compromise burst speed and max shutter speed, but I don't think either of these would be a limiting factor. I am a bit concerned about using EF lens on an RP body, but I think this is only because I don't have any experience with mirrorless.

Any thoughts, experience, or opinions would be greatly appreciated, especially since this is close to a lateral move.

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Oct 6, 2021 15:04:54   #
adedeluca Loc: holbrook ny
 
I have the 6D mark 2 for over 3 years
I love it and the image quality is amazing . Bang for the buck YES

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Oct 6, 2021 15:11:39   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
You can read a review of the Rp here: https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-eos-rp-review
or compare the specs of all 3 here:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/compare/Canon_RP_vs_Canon_80D_vs_Canon_6D_Mark_II/BHitems/1459282-REG_1225875-REG_1346734-REG

From the specs it appears the 6D Mark II is no more sensitive than the 80D

Note that to use EF lenses on it you need the adapter ($100)

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Oct 6, 2021 15:34:10   #
Dano Loc: North Carolina
 
adedeluca wrote:
I have the 6D mark 2 for over 3 years
I love it and the image quality is amazing . Bang for the buck YES


That's what I'm leaning toward. The 6d Mark II seems to consistently get great reviews. Thanks for the input!

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Oct 6, 2021 15:43:55   #
Dano Loc: North Carolina
 
"From the specs it appears the 6D Mark II is no more sensitive than the 80D"

Great refs. Thanks. I think you may have looked at the ISO comparison for video, which is about the same for all 3. The ISO sensitivity for image capture looks to be about 4x higher for the 2 full frame bodies, unless I'm reading it wrong. Both full frame and mirrorless is new to me, so I could easily be mistaken.

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Oct 6, 2021 15:45:11   #
BebuLamar
 
Do you prefer mirrorless? Do you have many EF lenses?

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Oct 6, 2021 16:16:21   #
Dano Loc: North Carolina
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Do you prefer mirrorless? Do you have many EF lenses?


I don't have any experience with mirrorless, so opinions are very welcome. And I have a fairly solid compliment of EF lenses (70-200 2.8, 85 1.8, 50 1.8, 17-50 2.8, 11-18 4.5, and 100-600 5.0).

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Oct 6, 2021 17:05:15   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
EF lenses work at least exactly the same on any of the EOS R bodies, or work even better with the improved focus system. The only real knock on EOS R / RP options are the lack of IBIS, but that's no change from your current EOS 80D.

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Oct 6, 2021 19:55:01   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
Dano wrote:
"From the specs it appears the 6D Mark II is no more sensitive than the 80D"

Great refs. Thanks. I think you may have looked at the ISO comparison for video, which is about the same for all 3. The ISO sensitivity for image capture looks to be about 4x higher for the 2 full frame bodies, unless I'm reading it wrong. Both full frame and mirrorless is new to me, so I could easily be mistaken.


I looked at the meter sensitivity and the auto-focus sensitivity. Only the Rp had better specs there. Having higher ISO available doesn't say how the noise will be.

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Oct 6, 2021 20:30:07   #
Haydon
 
Keep your eyes open next month. Canon has for the last two years offered the EOS R refurbished for a little over $1200.00 right around Thanksgiving.

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Oct 6, 2021 22:51:25   #
Dano Loc: North Carolina
 
PHRubin wrote:
I looked at the meter sensitivity and the auto-focus sensitivity. Only the Rp had better specs there. Having higher ISO available doesn't say how the noise will be.


Great point. Makes total sense.

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Oct 6, 2021 22:52:30   #
Dano Loc: North Carolina
 
Haydon wrote:
Keep your eyes open next month. Canon has for the last two years offered the EOS R refurbished for a little over $1200.00 right around Thanksgiving.


Thanks for the tip. I've also been looking at referbs from Canon.

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Oct 6, 2021 23:39:29   #
Dano Loc: North Carolina
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
EF lenses work at least exactly the same on any of the EOS R bodies, or work even better with the improved focus system. The only real knock on EOS R / RP options are the lack of IBIS, but that's no change from your current EOS 80D.


Just to confirm, the RP would have improved autofocus even using an adapter and EF lenses? I thought this was only the case using RF lenses

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Oct 7, 2021 00:13:36   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Dano wrote:
Just to confirm, the RP would have improved autofocus even using an adapter and EF lenses? I thought this was only the case using RF lenses


Mirrorless is 'sensor based' autofocus, different technology than an DSLR that must focus using reflected light as the mirror covers the sensor until lifted for the exposure. The sensor-based technology operates for all lens types as a mirror never sits in front of the sensor. The RF lenses are 1 to 1 sharper than their EF counter parts, but both lens mounts benefit from the accuracy and speed of the mirrorless AF.

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Oct 7, 2021 08:03:28   #
John N Loc: HP14 3QF Stokenchurch, UK
 
I have a 6D mkII and am quite happy with it, but mirrorless is the future. The choice really depends on your current lens selection. If you have EF-S lenses they wont fit on either, if you have EF lenses they'll fit the 6D.

If I was buying new I'd go for the R6. Another consideration (I don't know how old you are) but you might appreciate the slight reduction in bulk and weight with the mirrorless system.

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