aflundi Loc: Albuquerque, NM

So you're saying that ADE isn't an issue because we haven't seen it yet? Doesn't ADE typically begin to manifest between 9 months and 3 years after vaccination?

David Martin Loc: Cary, NC

My understanding of ADE (I'm neither an immunologist, virologist nor specialist in infectious disease) is that occurs acutely, that is, immediately upon becoming infected. For example, when an unvaccinated person gets infected for a second time, the second event is much more severe than the first. Or when a vaccinated person then gets infected, the illness is much more severe than usual. If ADE were to occur in persons vaccinated against Covid, it would happen immediately whenever their Covid infection occurred, and not just within the time frame you specified.

This might be helpful:
Why ADE Hasn't Been a Problem With COVID Vaccines
https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/91648

aflundi Loc: Albuquerque, NM

I didn't find the article very convincing. Like so many other "technical" articles, it "reeked" of being written by a reporter who didn't really understand what she was writing, but trying to mimic words and phrases she'd heard. She didn't seem to have any understanding of what concerns many of the world's top immunologists, virologists, and front-line responders.

My understanding is, though I've read various people that try to explain their theories of the mechanisms that cause ADE, that in reality, nobody really knows exactly why it happens. It could be that there are multiple mechanisms that can lead to ADE. One theory espoused by notables like Dr. Robert Malone, the inventor of the mRNA vaccine, is that it happens when the vaccine induced antibody numbers fall off over time to a critical level so that a virus infection is not fully neutralized and thus can then evade further immune response. That would explain the 9 month to 3 year time lines that I've seen referenced from past vaccine experiments. If that is what happens, I suppose booster shots every 6 or 8 months for the rest of one's life so as to keep the antibody count high may be the way out of that predicament.

scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.

You just never learn do you? Nasty comments. Pathetic.

ppkwhat Loc: Gibsonton, FL

My wife and I got our Pfizer "boosters" this month. She had some fever and felt tired for a couple of days but that was all the reactions in our house. We're glad we did our part in trying to eliminate this pandemic. Kudos to you, David. (we are still using masks when out and about).

traderjohn Loc: New York City

I also got my third Moderna shot. I was told this is not a booster shot but a third shot. What the difference is?????????

David Martin Loc: Cary, NC

Here is what I posted earlier (page 3 of the thread):

A "third dose" is given to people with a compromised immune system, who are at high risk not to develop adequate antibodies after the 2-dose sequence of either Pfizer or Moderna. For these people, it's not really a booster. Rather, they are given a 3-dose series rather than 2 doses. For both Pfizer and Moderna, the dose of the 3rd shot is the same as the first 2.

A "booster" is given to people who should have had a good antibody response to the initial 2 shots, however the antibodies begin to disappear over time. Therefore, their immune system needs a "boost." So after an appropriate interval has passed since their second shot (the U.S. has decided on 6 months, Israel decided on 5 months) a booster shot is offered. The Pfizer booster is the same dose as shots #1 and#2, however the Moderna booster will likely be a half-dose once.

Fredrick Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area

Thank you for that explanation!

DavidPhares Loc: Chandler, Arizona

👍👍👍

DavidPhares Loc: Chandler, Arizona

I have fought cancer three times, and won. Good luck to you in your battle. ❤️

traderjohn Loc: New York City

There is a difference.

traderjohn Loc: New York City

Thanks.