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Sep 21, 2021 19:55:50   #
bdk Loc: Sanibel Fl.
 
I take a few pix with my Nikon D810. first is the moon pic
Then I move them to my computer.
The very first pic in the roll ( the moon) . Is copied to the computer
but also stays on the camera.
I shoot more pix, move them but that first pic ( the moon ) is still there.
Then I format the card.
Take more pix and the very first pic ( a boat this time) stays on the card, it is also copied to the computer but also stays on the card.
I have no idea why, its been doing it for a few months.
Really doesnt make much difference but just wondered if you know why this happens.

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Sep 21, 2021 20:09:35   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Are you familiar with digital photography best practices?

Regarding the transfer of images from camera card to computer, they are:

1. Copy the files from the camera card to the computer.
2. Create back-up copies of the image files on your computer.
3. After confirming both the originals and the back-ups, only then reformat your camera card or simply delete all images on the camera card.

There's plenty of flexibility on when to cull, when to ingest into a digital asset manager, whether to back-up all originals or the final culled / edited results, as well as whether the back-up is local or offsite / in the cloud. But, all those options follow the same approach: copy files, confirm copied files, delete-all from camera card.

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Sep 21, 2021 22:07:27   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
2. Create back-up copies of the image files on your computer.


I really don't see the point in this step. Unless you mean send the back-up copy to an external drive or another computer.

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Sep 21, 2021 22:21:37   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
rook2c4 wrote:
I really don't see the point in this step. Unless you mean send the back-up copy to an external drive or another computer.


If your original and backup are on the same drive, what are you going to do when the drive goes south; most of them will at some point as everything wears out.... You need at least 1 external, if not 2 if you are a little paranoid. They are pretty cheap now days... Funny you should post this as I have a 2 TB coming in the mail right now as I am terrified of my heavily used external taking a crap. $ 59.00 for my Mac ... cheap insurance for irreplaceable pics.

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Sep 21, 2021 23:18:34   #
Orphoto Loc: Oregon
 
[quote=bdk]I take a few pix with my Nikon D810. first is the moon pic
Then I move them to my computer.

This is exactly how it i s supposed to work. When you use a copy machine, does the machine give you the copy and eat the original?

When you transfer images from card or camera to computer it is a copy operation. When you reformat the card it erases all the images and starts over (technically not quite correct, but at your stage of the game you only need to understand that much).

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Sep 22, 2021 06:15:52   #
MrPhotog
 
rook2c4 wrote:
I really don't see the point in this step. ( making a copy) Unless you mean send the back-up copy to an external drive or another computer.


When I started, my first digital camera only captured in JPEG format, a ‘lossy’ compressed format. At the time I did not realize that changing a single pixel and resaving the image caused the process to throw away more detail each time it recompressed the slightly -altered file. After tweaking an image, and saving the new result, a few dozen times, I had a lousy picture.

The next day I started saving two copies of each jpeg image: one in a file labeled ‘originals’, the other in my working files.

Now, I never open the original jpeg files. Instead, I copy them and work on the copies.

I’ve since continued the practice with ‘lossless’ file types. It is probably not necessary with RAW and TIFF formats, but since it is possible for individual files to be corrupted on an otherwise perfect disc, it gives me some peace of mind.

Second drive holds my backups of originals and edited photos, and some I burn to dvds or copy to thumb drives and SD cards for physically transferring to a different computer.

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Sep 22, 2021 09:32:22   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
I use Copy and put my SD photos into a folder on an external drive, make sure everything worked ok, then use Copy to copy that folder and it’s contents onto my PC, make sure everything worked ok, then format the SD card in the camera.

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Sep 22, 2021 09:58:01   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
bdk wrote:
I take a few pix with my Nikon D810. first is the moon pic
Then I move them to my computer.
The very first pic in the roll ( the moon) . Is copied to the computer
but also stays on the camera.
I shoot more pix, move them but that first pic ( the moon ) is still there.
Then I format the card.
Take more pix and the very first pic ( a boat this time) stays on the card, it is also copied to the computer but also stays on the card.
I have no idea why, its been doing it for a few months.
Really doesnt make much difference but just wondered if you know why this happens.
I take a few pix with my Nikon D810. first is the... (show quote)


Sounds like you are not formatting soon enough. After "copying, backing up the photos from the card", is when you format the card in camera, BEFORE taking any more photos. Paul have you good advice.

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Sep 22, 2021 10:23:46   #
fetzler Loc: North West PA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Are you familiar with digital photography best practices?

Regarding the transfer of images from camera card to computer, they are:

1. Copy the files from the camera card to the computer.
2. Create back-up copies of the image files on your computer.
3. After confirming both the originals and the back-ups, only then reformat your camera card or simply delete all images on the camera card.

There's plenty of flexibility on when to cull, when to ingest into a digital asset manager, whether to back-up all originals or the final culled / edited results, as well as whether the back-up is local or offsite / in the cloud. But, all those options follow the same approach: copy files, confirm copied files, delete-all from camera card.
Are you familiar with digital photography best pra... (show quote)


Indeed COPY and never MOVE files. You are asking for trouble if you move.

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Sep 22, 2021 11:50:08   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
MrBob wrote:
...cheap insurance for irreplaceable pics.


Too cheap. You cannot design, manufacture, QC, market and sell at a profit a QUALITY drive, case, interface and maybe a cable and power supply for that price. If you’re going to use cheap drives, better have a 3rd disaster recovery copy of your data off-site (which should be the case regardless). If you choose to use externals, the best strategy is to buy a quality enterprise class drive such as the HGST/WD Ultrastar and buy a case/interface and assemble it yourself. Takes maybe 5 minutes, and that way you KNOW what drive is inside the case and its quality.

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Sep 22, 2021 12:41:29   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
TriX wrote:
Too cheap. You cannot design, manufacture, QC, market and sell at a profit a QUALITY drive, case, interface and maybe a cable and power supply for that price. If you’re going to use cheap drives, better have a 3rd disaster recovery copy of your data off-site (which should be the case regardless). If you choose to use externals, the best strategy is to buy a quality enterprise class drive such as the HGST/WD Ultrastar and buy a case/interface and assemble it yourself. Takes maybe 5 minutes, and that way you KNOW what drive is inside the case and its quality.
Too cheap. You cannot design, manufacture, QC, mar... (show quote)


On sale from 99.95...Western Digital, no cables. I have used WD for a long time. Now I will have (2) external backups. Price point was right... Thanks for the advice...

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Sep 22, 2021 13:04:40   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
MrBob wrote:
On sale from 99.95...Western Digital, no cables. I have used WD for a long time. Now I will have (2) external backups. Price point was right... Thanks for the advice...


2 backups is GOOD! taking one off-site to a different location is even better.

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Sep 22, 2021 14:38:25   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
The key word is COPY. As stated above, that puts a copy on your hard drive but leaves the original in the camera. Only when you do something to intentionally remove the one in the camera like either DELETE or FORMAT will it disappear.

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Sep 23, 2021 15:58:25   #
bdk Loc: Sanibel Fl.
 
No one actually answered the question. I bought my first digital camera early 90's it cost me $600.00 for an ugly square box. I have been moving files between cameras and computers for maybe 25 years. I was NOT looking for people telling me how to do it.
I just wanted to see if anyone had an idea why one file always stayed on the memory card. until said card was formatted. Then the next very first pic stayed till the card was again formatted.

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Sep 23, 2021 16:35:12   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
bdk wrote:
No one actually answered the question. I bought my first digital camera early 90's it cost me $600.00 for an ugly square box. I have been moving files between cameras and computers for maybe 25 years. I was NOT looking for people telling me how to do it.
I just wanted to see if anyone had an idea why one file always stayed on the memory card. until said card was formatted. Then the next very first pic stayed till the card was again formatted.




You were answered! You are probably copying (which you should be doing). This leaves the files on the card until you format.

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