Some Sad Stories Caused by Anti-Vaxers
Sep 18, 2021 15:08:26 #
berchman
Loc: South Central PA
“It’s Just Old People”: Days before Ray Martin DeMonia of Cullman, Ala., turned 74, he had a “cardiac event” and went to the emergency room at Cullman Regional Medical Center. Thanks to the v*****e hesitant leading to a huge upswing of C***d cases with the Delta variant, the hospital was full. It took awhile for emergency room staff to find a facility that could take him. They called, and called, and called, but were turned down again and again — by 43 different hospitals across three states — before they found him a bed in Meridian, Miss., 200 miles away. By then it was too late. DeMonia’s family used his obituary to urge others to just get the damn v*****e so people with regular emergencies have a chance to get care. “He would not want any other family to go through what his did,” they said. (RC/Montgomery Advertiser) ...The guilty parties’ reply: “Next!”
Kali.Keeping a Close Eye: Karra Harwood of Bacliff, Texas, admits “I was one of the people that was anti” v*****e. “I was against it.” Sure enough, she came down with C****-**. She isolated herself from her children, and her mother came over to stay with the kids. At 2:00 a.m., grandma found one of the kids had a fever, and gave her something for it. When grandma checked on Kali Cook five hours later, she didn’t wake up: Kali was dead, apparently infected by Harwood before she was diagnosed. Kali was 4 years old, “so pretty and full of life,” Harwood says, with no previous health problems. “This is a terrible thing, but I think people need to know about it,” said Galveston County Local Health Authority Philip Keiser; an autopsy found she died of C***d. “I would rather her be a name than just a little girl,” Harwood sobbed. And what of her anti-vax stance? “Now, I wish I never was.” (RC/Galveston Daily News) ...Too late, but maybe some others won’t be.
The foregoing was taken from Randy Cassingham's This is True
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What first struck Nathaniel Osborn when he and his wife took their son, Seth, to the emergency room this summer was how packed the waiting room was for a Wednesday at 1 p.m.
The Florida hospital’s emergency room was so crowded there weren’t enough chairs for the family to all sit as they waited. And waited.
Hours passed and 12-year-old Seth’s condition worsened, his body quivering from the pain shooting across his lower belly. Osborn said his wife asked why it was taking so long to be seen. A nurse rolled her eyes and muttered, “C***D.”
Seth was finally diagnosed with appendicitis more than six hours after arriving at Cleveland Clinic Martin Health North Hospital in late July. Around midnight, he was taken by ambulance to a sister hospital about a half-hour away that was better equipped to perform pediatric emergency surgery, his father said.
But by the time the doctor operated in the early morning hours, Seth’s appendix had burst — a potentially fatal complication.
As the nation’s hospitals fill and emergency rooms overflow with critically ill C****-** patients, it is the non-C****-** patients, like Seth, who have become collateral damage. They, too, need emergency care, but the sheer number of C****-** cases is crowding them out. Treatment has often been delayed as ERs scramble to find a bed that may be hundreds of miles away.
Some health officials now worry about looming ethical decisions. Last week, Idaho activated a “crisis standard of care,” which one official described as a “last resort.” It allows overwhelmed hospitals to ration care, including “in rare cases, ventilator (breathing machines) or intensive care unit (ICU) beds may need to be used for those who are most likely to survive, while patients who are not likely to survive may not be able to receive one,” the state’s website said.
The federal government’s latest data shows Alabama is at 100% of its intensive care unit capacity, with Texas, Georgia, Mississippi and Arkansas at more than 90% ICU capacity. Florida is just under 90%.
It’s the C****-** cases that are dominating. In Georgia, 62% of the ICU beds are now filled with just C****-** patients. In Texas, the percentage is nearly half.
To have so many ICU beds pressed into service for a single diagnosis is “unheard of,” said Dr. Hasan Kakli, an emergency room physician at Bellville Medical Center in Bellville, Texas, about an hour from Houston. “It’s approaching apocalyptic.”
In Texas, state data released Monday showed there were only 319 adult and 104 pediatric staffed ICU beds available across a state of 29 million people.
Hospitals need to hold some ICU beds for other patients, such as those recovering from major surgery or other critical conditions such as stroke, trauma or heart failure.
“This is not just a C***D issue,” said Dr. Normaliz Rodriguez, pediatric emergency physician at Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital in St. Petersburg, Florida. “This is an everyone issue.”
While the latest hospital crisis echoes previous p******c spikes, there are troubling differences this time around.
Before, localized C****-** hot spots led to bed shortages, but there were usually hospitals in the region not as affected that could accept a t***sfer.
Now, as the highly contagious delta variant envelops swaths of low-v******tion states all at once, it becomes harder to find nearby hospitals that are not slammed.
“Wait times can now be measured in days,” said Darrell Pile, CEO of the SouthEast Texas Regional Advisory Council, which helps coordinate patient t***sfers across a 25-county region.
Recently, Dr. Cedric Dark, a Houston emergency physician and assistant professor of emergency medicine at Baylor College of Medicine, said he saw a critically ill C****-** patient waiting in the emergency room for an ICU bed to open. The doctor worked eight hours, went home and came in the next day. The patient was still waiting.
Holding a seriously ill patient in an emergency room while waiting for an in-patient bed to open is known as boarding. The longer the wait, the more dangerous it can be for the patient, studies have found.
Not only do patients ultimately end up staying in the hospital or the ICU longer, some research suggests that long waits for a bed will worsen their condition and may increase the risk of in-hospital death.
That’s what happened last month in Texas.
On Aug. 21, around 11:30 a.m., Michelle Puget took her adult son, Daniel Wilkinson, to the Bellville Medical Center’s emergency room as a pain in his abdomen became unbearable. “Mama,” he said, “take me to the hospital.”
Wilkinson, a 46-year-old decorated Army veteran who did two tours of duty in Afghanistan, was ushered into an exam room about half an hour later. Kakli, the emergency room physician there, diagnosed gallstone pancreatitis, a serious but treatable condition that required a specialist to perform a surgical procedure and an ICU bed.
In other times, the t***sfer to a larger facility would be easy. But soon Kakli found himself on a frantic, six-hour quest to find a bed for his patient. Not only did he call hospitals across Texas, but he also tried Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma and Colorado. It was like throwing darts at a map and hoping to get lucky, he told ProPublica. But no one could or would take the t***sfer.
By 2:30 p.m., Wilkinson’s condition was deteriorating. Kakli told Puget to come back to the hospital. “I have to tell you,” she said he told her, “Your son is a very, very sick man. If he doesn’t get this procedure he will die.” She began to weep.
Two hours later, Wilkinson’s blood pressure was dropping, signaling his organs were failing, she said.
Kakli went on Facebook and posted an all-caps plea to physician groups around the nation: “GETTING REJECTED BY ALL HOSPITALS IN TEXAS DUE TO NO ICU BEDS. PLEASE HELP. MESSAGE ME IF YOU HAVE A BED. PATIENT IS IN ER NOW. I AM THE ER DOC. WILL FLY ANYWHERE.”
The doctor tried Michael E. DeBakey VA Medical Center in Houston for a second time. This time he found a bed.
Around 7 p.m., Wilkinson, still conscious but in grave condition, was flown by helicopter to the hospital. He was put in a medically induced coma. Through the night and into the next morning, medical teams worked to stabilize him enough to perform the procedure. They could not.
Doctors told his family the internal damage was catastrophic. “We made the decision we had to let him go,” Puget said.
Time of death: 1:37 p.m. Aug. 22 — 26 hours after he first arrived in the emergency room.
The story was first reported by CBS News. Kakli told ProPublica last week he still sometimes does the math in his head: It should have been 40 minutes from diagnosis in Bellville to t***sfer to the ICU in Houston. “If he had 40 minutes to wait instead of six hours, I strongly believe he would have had a different outcome.”
Another difference with the latest surge is how it’s affecting children.
Last year, schools were closed, and children were more protected because they were mostly isolated at home. In fact, children’s hospitals were often so empty during previous spikes they opened beds to adult patients.
Now, families are out more. Schools have reopened, some with mask mandates, some without. V*****es are not yet available to those under 12. Suddenly the numbers of hospitalized children are on the rise, setting up the same type of competition for resources between young C****-** patients and those with other illnesses such as new onset diabetes, trauma, pneumonia or appendicitis.
Dr. Rafael Santiago, a pediatric emergency physician in Central Florida, said at Lakeland Regional Health Medical Center, the average number of children coming into the emergency room is around 130 per day. During the lockdown last spring, that number dropped to 33. Last month — “the busiest month ever” — the average daily number of children in the emergency room was 160.
Pediatric t***sfers are not yet as fraught as adult ones, Santiago said, but it does take more calls than it once did to secure a bed.
Seth Osborn, the 12-year-old whose appendix burst after a long wait, spent five days and four nights in the hospital as doctors pumped his body full of antibiotics to stave off infection from the rupture. The typical hospitalization for a routine appendectomy is about 24 hours.
The initial hospital bill for the stay came to more than $48,000, Nathaniel Osborn said. Although insurance paid for most of it, he said the family still borrowed against its house to cover the more than $5,000 in out-of-pocket costs so far.
While the hospital system where Seth was treated declined to comment about his case because of patient privacy laws, it did email a statement about the strain the p******c is creating.
“Since July 2021, we have seen a tremendous spike in C****-** patients needing care and hospitalization. In mid-August, we saw the highest number of patients hospitalized with C****-** across the Cleveland Clinic Florida region, a total of 395 C****-** patients in four hospitals. Those hospitals have approximately 1,000 total beds,” the email to ProPublica said. “We strongly encourage v******tion. Approximately 90% of our patients hospitalized due to C****-** are unv******ted.”
On Sunday, The Washington Post reported that a hospital in Alabama called 43 others across three states before finding a bed for Ray DeMonia, a critically ill heart patient who later died. In his obituary his family wrote: “In honor of Ray, please get v******ted if you have not, in an effort to free up resources for non C***D related emergencies. ... He would not want any other family to go through what his did.”
Today, Seth is mostly recovered. “Twelve-year-old boys bounce back,” his father said. Still, the experience has left Nathaniel Osborn shaken.
The high school history teacher said he likes to stay upbeat and apolitical in his social media musings, posting about Florida wildlife preservation and favorite books. But on Sept. 7, he tweeted: “My 12-year-old had appendicitis. The ER was overwhelmed with unv******ted C***d patients and we had to wait 6+ hours. While waiting, his appendix ruptured and had to spend 5 days in hospital. ... So yeah, your decision to not v******te does affect others.”
It was retweeted 34,700 times, with 143,000 likes. Most comments were sympathetic and wished his child a speedy recovery. Some, though, went straight to h**e, apparently triggered by his last line. He was attacked personally and accused of making up the story: “Good try with the guilt, jerk.”
Osborn, who is v******ted, as are his wife and son, told ProPublica he only shared Seth’s story on Twitter to encourage v******tions.
“I have no ill will towards the hospitals or the care received at either hospital,” he said this week, “but had these hospitals not been so crowded with C***D patients, we wouldn’t have had to wait so long and perhaps my son’s appendix would not have burst.”
https://www.modernhealthcare.com/hospitals/boy-went-c***d-swamped-er-he-waited-hours-then-his-appendix-burst
Kali.Keeping a Close Eye: Karra Harwood of Bacliff, Texas, admits “I was one of the people that was anti” v*****e. “I was against it.” Sure enough, she came down with C****-**. She isolated herself from her children, and her mother came over to stay with the kids. At 2:00 a.m., grandma found one of the kids had a fever, and gave her something for it. When grandma checked on Kali Cook five hours later, she didn’t wake up: Kali was dead, apparently infected by Harwood before she was diagnosed. Kali was 4 years old, “so pretty and full of life,” Harwood says, with no previous health problems. “This is a terrible thing, but I think people need to know about it,” said Galveston County Local Health Authority Philip Keiser; an autopsy found she died of C***d. “I would rather her be a name than just a little girl,” Harwood sobbed. And what of her anti-vax stance? “Now, I wish I never was.” (RC/Galveston Daily News) ...Too late, but maybe some others won’t be.
The foregoing was taken from Randy Cassingham's This is True
***********************
What first struck Nathaniel Osborn when he and his wife took their son, Seth, to the emergency room this summer was how packed the waiting room was for a Wednesday at 1 p.m.
The Florida hospital’s emergency room was so crowded there weren’t enough chairs for the family to all sit as they waited. And waited.
Hours passed and 12-year-old Seth’s condition worsened, his body quivering from the pain shooting across his lower belly. Osborn said his wife asked why it was taking so long to be seen. A nurse rolled her eyes and muttered, “C***D.”
Seth was finally diagnosed with appendicitis more than six hours after arriving at Cleveland Clinic Martin Health North Hospital in late July. Around midnight, he was taken by ambulance to a sister hospital about a half-hour away that was better equipped to perform pediatric emergency surgery, his father said.
But by the time the doctor operated in the early morning hours, Seth’s appendix had burst — a potentially fatal complication.
As the nation’s hospitals fill and emergency rooms overflow with critically ill C****-** patients, it is the non-C****-** patients, like Seth, who have become collateral damage. They, too, need emergency care, but the sheer number of C****-** cases is crowding them out. Treatment has often been delayed as ERs scramble to find a bed that may be hundreds of miles away.
Some health officials now worry about looming ethical decisions. Last week, Idaho activated a “crisis standard of care,” which one official described as a “last resort.” It allows overwhelmed hospitals to ration care, including “in rare cases, ventilator (breathing machines) or intensive care unit (ICU) beds may need to be used for those who are most likely to survive, while patients who are not likely to survive may not be able to receive one,” the state’s website said.
The federal government’s latest data shows Alabama is at 100% of its intensive care unit capacity, with Texas, Georgia, Mississippi and Arkansas at more than 90% ICU capacity. Florida is just under 90%.
It’s the C****-** cases that are dominating. In Georgia, 62% of the ICU beds are now filled with just C****-** patients. In Texas, the percentage is nearly half.
To have so many ICU beds pressed into service for a single diagnosis is “unheard of,” said Dr. Hasan Kakli, an emergency room physician at Bellville Medical Center in Bellville, Texas, about an hour from Houston. “It’s approaching apocalyptic.”
In Texas, state data released Monday showed there were only 319 adult and 104 pediatric staffed ICU beds available across a state of 29 million people.
Hospitals need to hold some ICU beds for other patients, such as those recovering from major surgery or other critical conditions such as stroke, trauma or heart failure.
“This is not just a C***D issue,” said Dr. Normaliz Rodriguez, pediatric emergency physician at Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital in St. Petersburg, Florida. “This is an everyone issue.”
While the latest hospital crisis echoes previous p******c spikes, there are troubling differences this time around.
Before, localized C****-** hot spots led to bed shortages, but there were usually hospitals in the region not as affected that could accept a t***sfer.
Now, as the highly contagious delta variant envelops swaths of low-v******tion states all at once, it becomes harder to find nearby hospitals that are not slammed.
“Wait times can now be measured in days,” said Darrell Pile, CEO of the SouthEast Texas Regional Advisory Council, which helps coordinate patient t***sfers across a 25-county region.
Recently, Dr. Cedric Dark, a Houston emergency physician and assistant professor of emergency medicine at Baylor College of Medicine, said he saw a critically ill C****-** patient waiting in the emergency room for an ICU bed to open. The doctor worked eight hours, went home and came in the next day. The patient was still waiting.
Holding a seriously ill patient in an emergency room while waiting for an in-patient bed to open is known as boarding. The longer the wait, the more dangerous it can be for the patient, studies have found.
Not only do patients ultimately end up staying in the hospital or the ICU longer, some research suggests that long waits for a bed will worsen their condition and may increase the risk of in-hospital death.
That’s what happened last month in Texas.
On Aug. 21, around 11:30 a.m., Michelle Puget took her adult son, Daniel Wilkinson, to the Bellville Medical Center’s emergency room as a pain in his abdomen became unbearable. “Mama,” he said, “take me to the hospital.”
Wilkinson, a 46-year-old decorated Army veteran who did two tours of duty in Afghanistan, was ushered into an exam room about half an hour later. Kakli, the emergency room physician there, diagnosed gallstone pancreatitis, a serious but treatable condition that required a specialist to perform a surgical procedure and an ICU bed.
In other times, the t***sfer to a larger facility would be easy. But soon Kakli found himself on a frantic, six-hour quest to find a bed for his patient. Not only did he call hospitals across Texas, but he also tried Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma and Colorado. It was like throwing darts at a map and hoping to get lucky, he told ProPublica. But no one could or would take the t***sfer.
By 2:30 p.m., Wilkinson’s condition was deteriorating. Kakli told Puget to come back to the hospital. “I have to tell you,” she said he told her, “Your son is a very, very sick man. If he doesn’t get this procedure he will die.” She began to weep.
Two hours later, Wilkinson’s blood pressure was dropping, signaling his organs were failing, she said.
Kakli went on Facebook and posted an all-caps plea to physician groups around the nation: “GETTING REJECTED BY ALL HOSPITALS IN TEXAS DUE TO NO ICU BEDS. PLEASE HELP. MESSAGE ME IF YOU HAVE A BED. PATIENT IS IN ER NOW. I AM THE ER DOC. WILL FLY ANYWHERE.”
The doctor tried Michael E. DeBakey VA Medical Center in Houston for a second time. This time he found a bed.
Around 7 p.m., Wilkinson, still conscious but in grave condition, was flown by helicopter to the hospital. He was put in a medically induced coma. Through the night and into the next morning, medical teams worked to stabilize him enough to perform the procedure. They could not.
Doctors told his family the internal damage was catastrophic. “We made the decision we had to let him go,” Puget said.
Time of death: 1:37 p.m. Aug. 22 — 26 hours after he first arrived in the emergency room.
The story was first reported by CBS News. Kakli told ProPublica last week he still sometimes does the math in his head: It should have been 40 minutes from diagnosis in Bellville to t***sfer to the ICU in Houston. “If he had 40 minutes to wait instead of six hours, I strongly believe he would have had a different outcome.”
Another difference with the latest surge is how it’s affecting children.
Last year, schools were closed, and children were more protected because they were mostly isolated at home. In fact, children’s hospitals were often so empty during previous spikes they opened beds to adult patients.
Now, families are out more. Schools have reopened, some with mask mandates, some without. V*****es are not yet available to those under 12. Suddenly the numbers of hospitalized children are on the rise, setting up the same type of competition for resources between young C****-** patients and those with other illnesses such as new onset diabetes, trauma, pneumonia or appendicitis.
Dr. Rafael Santiago, a pediatric emergency physician in Central Florida, said at Lakeland Regional Health Medical Center, the average number of children coming into the emergency room is around 130 per day. During the lockdown last spring, that number dropped to 33. Last month — “the busiest month ever” — the average daily number of children in the emergency room was 160.
Pediatric t***sfers are not yet as fraught as adult ones, Santiago said, but it does take more calls than it once did to secure a bed.
Seth Osborn, the 12-year-old whose appendix burst after a long wait, spent five days and four nights in the hospital as doctors pumped his body full of antibiotics to stave off infection from the rupture. The typical hospitalization for a routine appendectomy is about 24 hours.
The initial hospital bill for the stay came to more than $48,000, Nathaniel Osborn said. Although insurance paid for most of it, he said the family still borrowed against its house to cover the more than $5,000 in out-of-pocket costs so far.
While the hospital system where Seth was treated declined to comment about his case because of patient privacy laws, it did email a statement about the strain the p******c is creating.
“Since July 2021, we have seen a tremendous spike in C****-** patients needing care and hospitalization. In mid-August, we saw the highest number of patients hospitalized with C****-** across the Cleveland Clinic Florida region, a total of 395 C****-** patients in four hospitals. Those hospitals have approximately 1,000 total beds,” the email to ProPublica said. “We strongly encourage v******tion. Approximately 90% of our patients hospitalized due to C****-** are unv******ted.”
On Sunday, The Washington Post reported that a hospital in Alabama called 43 others across three states before finding a bed for Ray DeMonia, a critically ill heart patient who later died. In his obituary his family wrote: “In honor of Ray, please get v******ted if you have not, in an effort to free up resources for non C***D related emergencies. ... He would not want any other family to go through what his did.”
Today, Seth is mostly recovered. “Twelve-year-old boys bounce back,” his father said. Still, the experience has left Nathaniel Osborn shaken.
The high school history teacher said he likes to stay upbeat and apolitical in his social media musings, posting about Florida wildlife preservation and favorite books. But on Sept. 7, he tweeted: “My 12-year-old had appendicitis. The ER was overwhelmed with unv******ted C***d patients and we had to wait 6+ hours. While waiting, his appendix ruptured and had to spend 5 days in hospital. ... So yeah, your decision to not v******te does affect others.”
It was retweeted 34,700 times, with 143,000 likes. Most comments were sympathetic and wished his child a speedy recovery. Some, though, went straight to h**e, apparently triggered by his last line. He was attacked personally and accused of making up the story: “Good try with the guilt, jerk.”
Osborn, who is v******ted, as are his wife and son, told ProPublica he only shared Seth’s story on Twitter to encourage v******tions.
“I have no ill will towards the hospitals or the care received at either hospital,” he said this week, “but had these hospitals not been so crowded with C***D patients, we wouldn’t have had to wait so long and perhaps my son’s appendix would not have burst.”
https://www.modernhealthcare.com/hospitals/boy-went-c***d-swamped-er-he-waited-hours-then-his-appendix-burst
Sep 18, 2021 15:12:36 #
Sad stories no doubt but when its our time there isnt a thing we can do.
We will all die the most important thing for us to consider is our eternity
We will all die the most important thing for us to consider is our eternity
Sep 18, 2021 15:37:39 #
soba1 wrote:
Sad stories no doubt but when its our time there isnt a thing we can do.
We will all die the most important thing for us to consider is our eternity
We will all die the most important thing for us to consider is our eternity
Odd, Soba, that when we do things the "right" way, "our time" seems to be pushed back. Modern medicine deliver timely has pushed back "out time" by decades. This "when it's your time it's your time," is kind of mocking God, who takes ALL things into consideration, including medical treatment. What you're saying is that you might as well not worry about seeking treatment for medical emergencies because if you're meant to die, you're meant to die. That's simplistic fatalististic determinism. My, we might as well not have developed the medicines and surgical procedures that have stretched our life expectancy from 40 to the 70's.
Sep 18, 2021 17:15:24 #
soba1 wrote:
Sad stories no doubt but when its our time there isnt a thing we can do.
We will all die the most important thing for us to consider is our eternity
We will all die the most important thing for us to consider is our eternity
Oh Please!
Then when I say I'm happy for him because he's in heaven, you attack me.
The real protocol should be if you refused the v*****e, you are the one that doesn't have a bed.
If you die, you die of your own fault instead of k*****g someone else.
Sep 18, 2021 18:39:53 #
Frank T wrote:
Oh Please!
Then when I say I'm happy for him because he's in heaven, you attack me.
The real protocol should be if you refused the v*****e, you are the one that doesn't have a bed.
If you die, you die of your own fault instead of k*****g someone else.
Then when I say I'm happy for him because he's in heaven, you attack me.
The real protocol should be if you refused the v*****e, you are the one that doesn't have a bed.
If you die, you die of your own fault instead of k*****g someone else.
Sep 19, 2021 09:01:41 #
Sep 19, 2021 10:44:35 #
soba1 wrote:
Sad stories no doubt but when its our time there isnt a thing we can do.
We will all die the most important thing for us to consider is our eternity
We will all die the most important thing for us to consider is our eternity
Eternity will be waiting when I get there, so I am happy to delay it with a safe, effective C***D v*****e, thank you.
Sep 19, 2021 10:46:10 #
Sep 19, 2021 11:01:29 #
Cotondog wrote:
For the Deniers and Anti-Vaxers ....
Including the a-holes that get the shot.
Who denies c***d?
Sep 19, 2021 12:41:56 #
Frank T wrote:
Oh Please!
Then when I say I'm happy for him because he's in heaven, you attack me.
The real protocol should be if you refused the v*****e, you are the one that doesn't have a bed.
If you die, you die of your own fault instead of k*****g someone else.
Then when I say I'm happy for him because he's in heaven, you attack me.
The real protocol should be if you refused the v*****e, you are the one that doesn't have a bed.
If you die, you die of your own fault instead of k*****g someone else.
How are you so sure the v*****e won't k**l you? There are documented cases.
"During April 4–June 19, fully v******ted persons accounted for 5% of C***d cases, 7% of hospitalizations, and 8% of deaths overall."
Sep 19, 2021 12:46:47 #
berchman
Loc: South Central PA
Fotoartist wrote:
How are you so sure the v*****e won't k**l you? There are documented cases.
“DOCUMENTED”
Sep 19, 2021 12:51:14 #
berchman wrote:
“DOCUMENTED”
More than 380 million doses of C****-** v*****es were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through September 13, 2021. During this time, V***S received 7,653 reports of death (0.0020%) among people who received a C****-** v*****e.
CDC website: https://www.cdc.gov/c****av***s/2019-ncov/v*****es/safety/adverse-events.html
Sep 19, 2021 12:54:54 #
Cotondog wrote:
For the Deniers and Anti-Vaxers ....
The greatest risk of dying by lightning is on a golf course too but dozens of people (an average of 40 per year) not golfing die by lightning every year also. Are you going to ignore the odds when it is someone else life and choice?
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Sep 19, 2021 13:04:20 #
Sep 19, 2021 13:54:18 #
berchman
Loc: South Central PA
Fotoartist wrote:
More than 380 million doses of C****-** v*****es were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through September 13, 2021. During this time, V***S received 7,653 reports of death (0.0020%) among people who received a C****-** v*****e.
CDC website: https://www.cdc.gov/c****av***s/2019-ncov/v*****es/safety/adverse-events.html
CDC website: https://www.cdc.gov/c****av***s/2019-ncov/v*****es/safety/adverse-events.html
FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after C****-** v******tion to V***S, even if it’s unclear whether the v*****e was the cause. Reports of a*****e e***ts to V***S following v******tion, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a v*****e caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to C****-** v*****es.
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