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Sep 15, 2021 11:07:06   #
Floyd Loc: Misplaced Texan in Florence, Alabama
 
Abo wrote:
No Rob, I havn't tried a gimbal head.

I guess it's hard to step out of ones comfort zone... a gimbal might be a bit of a culture shock :-)


Once you use a good gimbal head, I'd be surprised if you would return to anything else. I tried a pistol grip and it was, for me, unacceptable.

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Sep 15, 2021 11:30:33   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
alexol wrote:
Manfrotto 322RC2 Ball Head provides both, apparently supporting just over 17lbs. Just a question of adjusting the friction to suit the weight.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/303591-REG/Manfrotto_322RC2_322RC2_Grip_Action_Ballhead.html

Worked fine with a D850 & 200-500.


Apparently they ARE still making them - but, WOW look at the price !!
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Sep 15, 2021 11:31:49   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Floyd wrote:
Once you use a good gimbal head, I'd be surprised if you would return to anything else. I tried a pistol grip and it was, for me, unacceptable.


A gimbal head is a great option for long lenses. It could work well with that combo but you’d also have to use a rail.

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Sep 15, 2021 11:39:00   #
Dalek Loc: Detroit, Miami, Goffstown
 
alexol wrote:
Manfrotto 322RC2 Ball Head provides both, apparently supporting just over 17lbs. Just a question of adjusting the friction to suit the weight.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/303591-REG/Manfrotto_322RC2_322RC2_Grip_Action_Ballhead.html

Worked fine with a D850 & 200-500.


I have been using the 322 for over 20 years. I have two. I find the form and function to fit my field shooting needs. I use it on a very sturdy monopod with a variety of glass. Foe the money it is a real performer.

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Sep 15, 2021 11:42:28   #
Dalek Loc: Detroit, Miami, Goffstown
 
I looked at the aspen products. The Aspen Ball Head looks interesting ( and pricey especially in Ti). They are not in stock and no photographer reactions have been posted. I would like to see a short video on how it works.

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Sep 15, 2021 11:43:26   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
imagemeister wrote:
Apparently they ARE still making them - but, WOW look at the price !!
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Here is the A/S receiver you will need for conversion ......https://www.ebay.com/itm/264634743422?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l9372

And, here is the KingJoy version of this head - https://www.ebay.com/itm/121481590525?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l9372

And here is the A/S plate or "rail" to use with a L bracket - https://www.ebay.com/itm/264844915249?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l9372
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Sep 15, 2021 12:28:25   #
juan_uy Loc: Uruguay
 
Dalek wrote:
I looked at the aspen products. The Aspen Ball Head looks interesting ( and pricey especially in Ti). They are not in stock and no photographer reactions have been posted. I would like to see a short video on how it works.


Mark Denney a landscaper photographer and youtuber uses one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S67aYEU8MoM

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Sep 15, 2021 14:27:45   #
alexol
 
imagemeister wrote:
Apparently they ARE still making them - but, WOW look at the price !!
.


Unfortunately quality has always been expensive.

I think there are some MUCH cheaper copies around but I also understand that they are not near as good and can't carry the weight nor lock down so tightly.

Bodes well for selling mine, however;)

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Sep 15, 2021 15:06:21   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
alexol wrote:
Unfortunately quality has always been expensive.

I think there are some MUCH cheaper copies around but I also understand that they are not near as good and can't carry the weight nor lock down so tightly.

Bodes well for selling mine, however;)


I have used the Manfro and the KingJoy - I cannot see a difference .....
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Sep 15, 2021 15:27:23   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
IF you can walk and chew gum you can use a gimbal head.


And you don't the skill at gum chewing.

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Sep 15, 2021 16:06:45   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Gene51 wrote:
Not sure there is a gimbal that works with a 14-24. And the 293 is not going to work because it is too long, and with a rated load capacity of only 5.5 lbs, only really suitable for short to medium tele lenses.


Did you happen to notice I said they make things "like" this. Also the OP's camera and lens weigh just under 4.5lbs. and the 293's length is adjustable so the camera and 14-24 can be mounted on it.

And once you have a mount that will fit just about anything can work on a gimbal using a long QR plate to slide it forward and back to balance. Just for the heck of it I mounted a 24-105L f/4 and the 7DII & 6D on a six inch QR plate and used it on a gimbal. It worked but I decided I didn't really need to do that. But if I ever need to I know how to do it.

Actually I don't think the 14-24 Nikkor is heavy enough to require front support but with a 6" QR plate it would be able to balance on a gimbal head. And once you have the gimbal head you can of course use it with big-long telephoto lenses.

And to the original OP, I have a [pro]master pistol grip ball head and it will hold 8.8 pounds nearly double the weight of your combo. Their products are available in the US, Canada, Costa Rica and Australia according to a site posted in April 2020. Price is aprx $50 on the US site.

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Sep 15, 2021 16:08:54   #
Hereford Loc: Palm Coast, FL
 
I have had the Manfrotto pistol grip ballhead for a number of years and it was very effective for my Canon Rebel camera and crop sensor lenses. Then I upgraded to the Canon 6D II and full frame lenses and it was questionable for that amount of weight because it has a relatively small ball.

I wanted to try it with my big Sigma 150-600 lens, so I got out the allen wrench and tightened it up considerably to where it seemed to reasonably handle a lens well beyond its means. Later I was doing a focus stack shot with the (Canon 24-105 f4) that demanded a firm lock, and it failed to hold that weight combination firmly.

So I have given up the pistol grip ball head and am now very happy using a Feisol 60mm ballhead with incredible holding power for large heavy combos. No more pistol grips for me. It's either gimbal or big Feisol for me.

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Sep 15, 2021 16:40:58   #
Geegee Loc: Peterborough, Ont.
 
Abo wrote:
No Rob, I havn't tried a gimbal head.

I guess it's hard to step out of ones comfort zone... a gimbal might be a bit of a culture shock :-)


Try it, you'll like it!!!

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Sep 15, 2021 16:45:13   #
alexol
 
Hereford wrote:
I have had the Manfrotto pistol grip ballhead for a number of years and it was very effective for my Canon Rebel camera and crop sensor lenses. Then I upgraded to the Canon 6D II and full frame lenses and it was questionable for that amount of weight because it has a relatively small ball.

I wanted to try it with my big Sigma 150-600 lens, so I got out the allen wrench and tightened it up considerably to where it seemed to reasonably handle a lens well beyond its means. Later I was doing a focus stack shot with the (Canon 24-105 f4) that demanded a firm lock, and it failed to hold that weight combination firmly.

So I have given up the pistol grip ball head and am now very happy using a Feisol 60mm ballhead with incredible holding power for large heavy combos. No more pistol grips for me. It's either gimbal or big Feisol for me.
I have had the Manfrotto pistol grip ballhead for ... (show quote)


There are at least three different Manfrotto versions, all capable of handling different weights (322 - 17.6 lbs / 324 - 8.8 lbs / 327 - 13.2 lbs meaning it would useful if you specified which one didn't support your 150-600. The joystick version (222) only supported 5.5 lbs.

That 150-600 lens on whatever camera should be supported easily by the 322 when appropriately adjusted (does not require an allen wrench!), but definitely not by the 324.

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Sep 15, 2021 17:25:58   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
Abo wrote:
No lens shoe for the 14-24 f/2.8 Nikkor as far as I know.
Should be though, as the objective lens is a gigantic
hunk of glass.


Gorgeous setup

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