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Sep 14, 2021 10:21:02   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Here are just a few reasons why the v*****e mandate is one of the most dangerous things any president can do. First- the v*****e is NOT manditory for everyone to end the spread of c***d. As a rresult the mandate is useless in stopping the spread. Second- if a president can ORDER every one to take the v*****e, even if it may harm them, that president can order the citizenry to do ANYTHING. And just in case you believe that it has never happened, it has. In a time of peace the president at the time. (early 20th century_) ORDERED and carried out the forced sterilization of thousands of women. Yea the p******c is a serious problem. Many have died ( about 700,000 Americans). But as a percentage of the population the survival rate is very high. Roughly 98%. and for those under 65 roughly 99.5%. Nowhere high enough to warrant mandates, Biden's mandate is NOT a health issue, the science prooves it. It is the ultimate power grab. What will be the next mandate?

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Sep 14, 2021 11:02:58   #
InfiniteISO Loc: The Carolinas, USA
 
boberic wrote:
Here are just a few reasons why the v*****e mandate is one of the most dangerous things any president can do. First- the v*****e is NOT manditory for everyone to end the spread of c***d. As a rresult the mandate is useless in stopping the spread. Second- if a president can ORDER every one to take the v*****e, even if it may harm them, that president can order the citizenry to do ANYTHING. And just in case you believe that it has never happened, it has. In a time of peace the president at the time. (early 20th century_) ORDERED and carried out the forced sterilization of thousands of women. Yea the p******c is a serious problem. Many have died ( about 700,000 Americans). But as a percentage of the population the survival rate is very high. Roughly 98%. and for those under 65 roughly 99.5%. Nowhere high enough to warrant mandates, Biden's mandate is NOT a health issue, the science prooves it. It is the ultimate power grab. What will be the next mandate?
Here are just a few reasons why the v*****e mandat... (show quote)


It will be interesting to see how this rolls out. I work for a company that has about 3,000 us employees and politically at the leadership level I would say it's very progressive. So far they have not acknowledged the president's speech. That may be because OSHA has not formulated a rule yet, and they're waiting to see. Still, I normally get some bit of woke-ism from corporate every week and so far we've had crickets on this topic.

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Sep 14, 2021 12:41:42   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
boberic wrote:
Here are just a few reasons why the v*****e mandate is one of the most dangerous things any president can do. First- the v*****e is NOT manditory for everyone to end the spread of c***d. As a rresult the mandate is useless in stopping the spread. Second- if a president can ORDER every one to take the v*****e, even if it may harm them, that president can order the citizenry to do ANYTHING. And just in case you believe that it has never happened, it has. In a time of peace the president at the time. (early 20th century_) ORDERED and carried out the forced sterilization of thousands of women. Yea the p******c is a serious problem. Many have died ( about 700,000 Americans). But as a percentage of the population the survival rate is very high. Roughly 98%. and for those under 65 roughly 99.5%. Nowhere high enough to warrant mandates, Biden's mandate is NOT a health issue, the science prooves it. It is the ultimate power grab. What will be the next mandate?
Here are just a few reasons why the v*****e mandat... (show quote)


Fear-mongering again. BS.

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Sep 14, 2021 14:59:07   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Kraken wrote:
Fear-mongering again. BS.


There are times you should be afraid. Ultimate federal power is one of those times.

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Sep 15, 2021 12:05:46   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Another BIG lie by Biden, "I will end C***d without mandates". This is a double lie. Under Biden over 270,000 people have died, much more than under President Trump and with dictator-like Biden mandates.

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Sep 15, 2021 13:06:38   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Another BIG lie by Biden, "I will end C***d without mandates". This is a double lie. Under Biden over 270,000 people have died, much more than under President Trump and with dictator-like Biden mandates.


Where is your link or are you shooting off your mouth?

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Sep 15, 2021 13:10:02   #
DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"
 
Kraken wrote:
Where is your link or are you shooting off your mouth?


perhaps he's missing a link or the missing link, take your pick.

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Sep 15, 2021 13:14:07   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
boberic wrote:
Here are just a few reasons why the v*****e mandate is one of the most dangerous things any president can do. First- the v*****e is NOT manditory for everyone to end the spread of c***d. As a rresult the mandate is useless in stopping the spread. Second- if a president can ORDER every one to take the v*****e, even if it may harm them, that president can order the citizenry to do ANYTHING. And just in case you believe that it has never happened, it has. In a time of peace the president at the time. (early 20th century_) ORDERED and carried out the forced sterilization of thousands of women. Yea the p******c is a serious problem. Many have died ( about 700,000 Americans). But as a percentage of the population the survival rate is very high. Roughly 98%. and for those under 65 roughly 99.5%. Nowhere high enough to warrant mandates, Biden's mandate is NOT a health issue, the science prooves it. It is the ultimate power grab. What will be the next mandate?
Here are just a few reasons why the v*****e mandat... (show quote)


The ultramate power grab is repukes trying restricting v****g

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Sep 15, 2021 13:15:04   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
DukeTarHeel wrote:
perhaps he's missing a link or the missing link, take your pick.


The missing links are the repukes

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Sep 15, 2021 14:12:56   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Kraken wrote:
Where is your link or are you shooting off your mouth?


I never see any links from you.

225,000 C***d deaths under Trump in 11 months. 275,000 C***d deaths under Biden in 8 months. And Biden had the benefit of 3 v*****es for the entire time. Trump, none.

https://nypost.com/2021/09/05/dems-blamed-trump-for-c***d-deaths-but-now-wont-blame-biden/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/15/andy-slavitt-c****av***s-americans-sacrifice-little-bit

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Sep 15, 2021 14:32:29   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Fotoartist wrote:
I never see any links from you.

225,000 C***d deaths under Trump in 11 months. 275,000 C***d deaths under Biden in 8 months. And Biden had the benefit of 3 v*****es for the entire time. Trump, none.

https://nypost.com/2021/09/05/dems-blamed-trump-for-c***d-deaths-but-now-wont-blame-biden/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/15/andy-slavitt-c****av***s-americans-sacrifice-little-bit


Liar, every damn time I post something I read on the internet the

link always comes with it. I don't want to be accused of making stuff

up like you far-right fantasy dwellers like to do. No link makes you a liar.

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Sep 15, 2021 14:35:07   #
DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"
 
Fotoartist wrote:
I never see any links from you.

225,000 C***d deaths under Trump in 11 months. 275,000 C***d deaths under Biden in 8 months. And Biden had the benefit of 3 v*****es for the entire time. Trump, none.

https://nypost.com/2021/09/05/dems-blamed-trump-for-c***d-deaths-but-now-wont-blame-biden/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/15/andy-slavitt-c****av***s-americans-sacrifice-little-bit


It would be a lot less if the trump supporters would stop the pollicization of getting the v*****e. 80 million people v**ed for trump; 80 million refuse to get the v*****e. Coincidence? Most trump supporters are anti-v**xers. Too bad they don't listen to their cohorts who change their mind about v******tion when it became too late to help them.

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Sep 15, 2021 15:34:08   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
DukeTarHeel wrote:
It would be a lot less if the trump supporters would stop the pollicization of getting the v*****e. 80 million people v**ed for trump; 80 million refuse to get the v*****e. Coincidence? Most trump supporters are anti-v**xers. Too bad they don't listen to their cohorts who change their mind about v******tion when it became too late to help them.


BS

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Sep 15, 2021 16:11:13   #
DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"
 
letmedance wrote:
BS


Only to a trump supporter. Why are the red states with the lowest v******tion rate and highest non-v******ted hospital admissions?

"As of September 13, 2021, 52.8% of people in counties that v**ed for Biden were fully v******ted compared to 39.9% of Trump counties, a 12.9 percentage point difference (Figure 1). While the rate of v******tion coverage has slowed in both county groups, the gap has widened over time (Figure 2)."

https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/the-red-blue-divide-in-c****-**-v******tion-rates/

Check the chart in this link:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/c***d-cases.html

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Sep 15, 2021 16:50:38   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Still supposition.

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