September 14, 2021
Sep 15, 2021 18:28:32 #
baron_silverton
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
CHG_CANON wrote:
I knew we could expect something wonderful from KR... (show quote)
It really is too bad there is so much hate for Nikon - the cameras are really good now and the ergo's awesome - not sure why KR thinks the ergos of the R3 will make one never use Nikon - the Z9 promises similar ergos - also ergonomics is largely a matter of opinion when it comes to dial placement (less so for grip).
Personally, I do not like how Canon puts the shutter on the index finger and ISO on the thumb wheel and then aperture on the rear dial - this is counterintuitive to me - Nikon's shutter on the thumb dial and aperture on the front dial falls in line with the real positioning of these things - aperture and then shutter as the light enters the lens and then the camera. I also prefer ISO as a button and turn as on Nikon instead of a dedicated wheel that can get bumped as on the Canon.
But this is just me - I am sure that there are those that think Canon's dials are great and would not want anything else, and that is awesome - more choices = good for everyone.
That said - its the photographer and not the camera that matters most - a great photographer with a point and shoot will likely take more compelling images than a hack with the R3 (or Z9).
Sep 15, 2021 21:13:16 #
Ken Rockwell: The R3 sees into your mind. It looks at your eyeball, sees where you're looking, and moves the AF point there. Since our eyes move automatically without conscious thought, this is how the R3 reads our minds and just focuses wherever we're paying attention.
How can Sony or Nikon ever beat a camera that reads your mind?
How can Sony or Nikon ever beat a camera that reads your mind?
Sep 15, 2021 21:52:38 #
mundy-F2
Loc: Chicago suburban area
Warhorse wrote:
I started my film camera journey in the mid to late 70's with a AE-1, and a F2, wonderful camera's. Seemed to me that all the pro's in that era where shooting Nikons.
Paul Simon knew this, when he sang "Kodachrome".
Paul Simon knew this, when he sang "Kodachrome".
I still use my F2's... often.
Mundy
Sep 15, 2021 22:03:01 #
quixdraw wrote:
We are all different. Had a Canon Pellix back when they were hot. Could easily gone with Canon if I hadn't gotten a great deal on a comprehensive Nikon kit. No camera is life changing. The constant propaganda drumbeat is tiresome.
I still have a Canon Pellix, although I haven't used it in 30 years.
Sep 15, 2021 22:11:50 #
mundy-F2
Loc: Chicago suburban area
Jimmy T wrote:
I now have, for me, Beaucoup $$$ invested in Canon... (show quote)
If you have an automatic chronograph winding watch, you never need to charge it like a phone and it is on your wrist and difficult to misplace. You can also locate your position at sea. Ask any sailor. I am on the water often, so my watch is an essential piece of equipment. I am sure a phone works well for most others.
Mundy
Sep 15, 2021 22:52:50 #
mundy-F2
Loc: Chicago suburban area
dbrugger25 wrote:
If a watch tells time accurately and isn't ugly, it is a great watch.
If a camera captures great photos and isn't too hard to use and accommodates good lenses, it is a great camera.
Think about the millions of fantastic photos that have been captured by great photographers before any electronics were involved. Just look at Life Magazine or old National Geographic magazines. I remember when NG captioned the photos with camera and film information.
If a camera captures great photos and isn't too hard to use and accommodates good lenses, it is a great camera.
Think about the millions of fantastic photos that have been captured by great photographers before any electronics were involved. Just look at Life Magazine or old National Geographic magazines. I remember when NG captioned the photos with camera and film information.
Works for me!
Mundy
Sep 15, 2021 22:56:49 #
mundy-F2
Loc: Chicago suburban area
CHG_CANON wrote:
Mirrorless cameras are a way of feeling, of touching, of loving. Images captured from behind a mirror are cold, heartless and uncaring.
Cold breeze coming off Lake Michigan. That's Ok.
Mundy
Sep 16, 2021 07:18:22 #
>To me, getting a camera is like getting a car. Personal choice!
S'why when I was younger I drove a sports car, my personal statement. Now 90, I don't even have a car. Still have a camera or three though. All Canons! <g>
Harry
PS Too bad that I don't have pics, I had a 911 but first a 356b, drove 'em all over OH, S MI and W PA. God, I loved that 356, drove it for years, finally wrecked it. I missed a turn on a side road coming home from a party at 3 AM and hit a telephone pole. OUCH! End of story - and Porsche! Bought an Audi coupe, all downhill from there as I got older.
Harry
PS My practical wife drives a Subaru. It's great for MI winters. I do love that tranny, drive wheels start to spin - BINGO, drops into 4wd! Hard to beat, 2wd mileage, aut0 4wd when needed!
S'why when I was younger I drove a sports car, my personal statement. Now 90, I don't even have a car. Still have a camera or three though. All Canons! <g>
Harry
PS Too bad that I don't have pics, I had a 911 but first a 356b, drove 'em all over OH, S MI and W PA. God, I loved that 356, drove it for years, finally wrecked it. I missed a turn on a side road coming home from a party at 3 AM and hit a telephone pole. OUCH! End of story - and Porsche! Bought an Audi coupe, all downhill from there as I got older.
Harry
PS My practical wife drives a Subaru. It's great for MI winters. I do love that tranny, drive wheels start to spin - BINGO, drops into 4wd! Hard to beat, 2wd mileage, aut0 4wd when needed!
Sep 16, 2021 07:55:08 #
[quote=Longshadow]AMEN!
I just picked one and went with it.
I liked it and stayed. I have nothing against any other major brand.
As a matter of fact, my 15 year old bridge camera is a Sony!
To me, getting a camera is like getting a car. Personal choice
I just picked one and went with it.
I liked it and stayed. I have nothing against any other major brand.
As a matter of fact, my 15 year old bridge camera is a Sony!
To me, getting a camera is like getting a car. Personal choice
I’ve been a Nikon guy since 1967 though I update every 3-5 years. I went through three Nikons documenting the Vietnam conflict. The only one that survived two tours was the original Nikonos.
Sep 16, 2021 16:14:38 #
Sep 16, 2021 16:25:49 #
Longshadow wrote:
Things that matter to some, not all.
Remember Alice talking to the caterpillar waaaay down in the rabbit hole ? UHH is the rabbit hole, for sure.
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Sep 16, 2021 16:30:33 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Ken Rockwell: The R3 sees into your mind. It looks at your eyeball, sees where you're looking, and moves the AF point there. Since our eyes move automatically without conscious thought, this is how the R3 reads our minds and just focuses wherever we're paying attention.
How can Sony or Nikon ever beat a camera that reads your mind?
How can Sony or Nikon ever beat a camera that reads your mind?
The Sony a1 mkIII will control your mind.
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