Aspect Ratio? (Page 5): All good info from Burkphoto. I prefer to crop in post in most instances. For certain publications a specific aspect ratio may be required in that case the...

fetzler Loc: North West PA

burkphoto wrote:

1:1 crops the image square br 3:2 is native (35mm ... (show quote)

All good info from Burkphoto. I prefer to crop in post in most instances. For certain publications a specific aspect ratio may be required in that case the cropping in camera may be preferable.

Delderby Loc: Derby UK

fetzler wrote:

All good info from Burkphoto. I prefer to crop in post in most instances. For certain publications a specific aspect ratio may be required in that case the cropping in camera may be preferable.

Yes - but I do prefer 4:3, and so my usual goal is to fill the frame - hence no loss of pixels.

Craigdca Loc: California

I like to get it all. Unfortunately I sometimes don’t get enough around the edges to convert my 3:2 images to 16:9 wallpapers.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Longshadow wrote:

Confused.
Then why are the results different?
3 vs. 4
How about 1.333? (or .75)

I have a Bronica ETRSi 6x4.5 camera, and a Lumix GH4 Micro 4/3 camera (4:3 natively). Copying old negatives from the 6x4.5 camera, I crop nothing and waste no sensor area. They are e the same shape (aspect ratio).

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

burkphoto wrote:

I have a Bronica ETRSi 6x4.5 camera, and a Lumix GH4 Micro 4/3 camera (4:3 natively). Copying old negatives from the 6x4.5 camera, I crop nothing and waste no sensor area. They are e the same shape (aspect ratio).

That is true.
I was confused about the equations that yielded a value of 3 and 4. I thought you were referring to ratios.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Cheese wrote:

Always seemed odd to me that to get a 4x6 print, you need a 6:4 (or 3:2) aspect ratio!

Yep. Aspect ratios are formal. When we lab rats refer to 4x6, we mean a vertical print. 6x4 is horizontal. The difference matters for some digital products and some frames.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

burkphoto wrote:

Yep. Aspect ratios are formal. When we lab rats refer to 4x6, we mean a vertical print. 6x4 is horizontal. The difference matters for some digital products and some frames.

Haha. (I'm not a lab rat.)
When I refer to 4x6 , 5x7, 8x10, ... I'm just referring to the size, only.
I don't care about orientation. Obviously it depends on the image.
"Do you want a 5x7 of that or 8x12?". If there is an image in mind, I think people are smart enough to figure it will be tall (↨) or long (↔).
I always put the smaller number first, always.

Frames are sold as 5x7s, 8x10s, etc.
But I suppose there will be some people looking for a 10x8 frame for a landscape image.

Even when I worked at a camera shop, the processing envelopes only had 4x6, 5x7, 8x10, ... check boxes for the size of the prints. The lab didn't care about orientation, unless it was masked, then we included masking instructions.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Longshadow wrote:

Haha. (I'm not a lab rat.) br When I refer to 4x6 ... (show quote)

We had many special products for schools. For example, standard groups were horizontal, but cheerleaders frequently wanted verticals of their pyramids and horizontal portraits of themselves posing on the gym floor. The images went into digitally framed designs. So we had to know…

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

burkphoto wrote:

We had many special products for schools. For example, standard groups were horizontal, but cheerleaders frequently wanted verticals of their pyramids and horizontal portraits of themselves posing on the gym floor. The images went into digitally framed designs. So we had to know…

That is a specialized application. Not getting run of the mill prints from a file.
I was working with prints WAY, way before digital frames! Those XxY sizes usually refer to prints, not digital frames. Digital frames will compensate for the size, but not the orientation.
And I was referring to frames for paper prints, which is most common. Requests for digital frames are less frequent, and it does depend on the orientation of the image.

Standard groups and cheer leading type image formats (landscape/portrait) are done when the pictures are taken, not printed, which kinda precludes the print orientation.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Longshadow wrote:

That is a specialized application. Not getting run... (show quote)

Digital memory mates is the product… we sold millions of them.

In the 1970s, ‘80s, and ‘90s, we sold a single product that included a folder and two prints. It could be ordered with horizontal group, vertical group, horizontal portrait or vertical portrait, in any combination of sizes from 3.5x5 to 8x10. (Or vice-versa…)

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

burkphoto wrote:

Digital memory mates is the product… we sold millions of them.

In the 1970s, ‘80s, and ‘90s, we sold a single product that included a folder and two prints. It could be ordered with horizontal group, vertical group, horizontal portrait or vertical portrait, in any combination of sizes from 3.5x5 to 8x10. (Or vice-versa…)

Yea, and I'll bet the shots were taken with the desired aspect ratio in mind (portrait v. landscape).
See, even you referenced "8x10" as a size... as opposed to 10x8 for orientation.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Longshadow wrote:

Yea, and I'll bet the shots were taken with the desired aspect ratio in mind (portrait v. landscape).
See, even you referenced "8x10" as a size... as opposed to 10x8 for orientation.

The actual products were described properly on our electronic order system as, for example, “10x8 group with 5x7 individual,” or “8x10 group with 5x7 individual,” or “10x8 group with 7x5 individual.” Nothing was left to chance. Everything had a separate catalog number.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

burkphoto wrote:

The actual products were described properly on our electronic order system as, for example, “10x8 group with 5x7 individual,” or “8x10 group with 5x7 individual,” or “10x8 group with 7x5 individual.” Nothing was left to chance. Everything had a separate catalog number.

Confused - you printed an 8x10 group shot as a 10x8 if they wanted?

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Longshadow wrote:

Confused - you printed an 8x10 group shot as a 10x8 if they wanted?

No. We printed a 4:5 aspect ratio image inside of a digitally printed graphic design on at least an 8x10 inch size sheet of paper. The paper was big enough to incorporate both the group and individual images. The graphic design was a full edge to edge bleed. It included school mascot, name, year, team name, group names, and individual name, if they paid for all those options.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

burkphoto wrote:

No. We printed a 4:5 aspect ratio image inside of a digitally printed graphic design on at least an 8x10 inch size sheet of paper. The paper was big enough to incorporate both the group and individual images. The graphic design was a full edge to edge bleed. It included school mascot, name, year, team name, group names, and individual name, if they paid for all those options.

Got off the subject of printing a single image did we?