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Sep 9, 2021 15:07:10   #
gener202002
 
Hello,

I was on the waiting list for the following lens, and when I got an email notifying me that it was available, it was an hour before I saw it and opened it,

(Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS II USM Lens (B&H # CA241054LIS2)

and five minutes after I opened the email, it was out of stock again. I hesitated because I want to make absolutely sure it fits on my m6 mark ii. The company was closed for holidays.

I am wondering, why is it so hard to keep this lens in stock? I think it must be because it is an absolutely high quality lens and very much in demand. I have considered the following lens also, (Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 DG OS HSM Art Lens for Canon EF), but prefer the 24-105. I wonder if anyone here has used this lens and/or the other, and their perspective on it, and if they are as good as they seem to be. Any perspective on these lenses would be appreciated.

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Sep 9, 2021 15:15:54   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
On reason could be allocation. Sellers only get so many at a time.

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Sep 9, 2021 15:42:29   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
gener202002 wrote:
Hello,

I was on the waiting list for the following lens, and when I got an email notifying me that it was available, it was an hour before I saw it and opened it,

(Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS II USM Lens (B&H # CA241054LIS2)

and five minutes after I opened the email, it was out of stock again. I hesitated because I want to make absolutely sure it fits on my m6 mark ii. The company was closed for holidays.

I am wondering, why is it so hard to keep this lens in stock? I think it must be because it is an absolutely high quality lens and very much in demand. I have considered the following lens also, (Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 DG OS HSM Art Lens for Canon EF), but prefer the 24-105. I wonder if anyone here has used this lens and/or the other, and their perspective on it, and if they are as good as they seem to be. Any perspective on these lenses would be appreciated.
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It's a popular lens because it's a good lens, I have one. There are several, both new and used, on ebay.

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Sep 9, 2021 18:09:16   #
gener202002
 
Longshadow wrote:
On reason could be allocation. Sellers only get so many at a time.



Yeah, apparently people are pre ordering it and they get it as soon as it comes in. Guess I am going to have to do that too. I know it is a professional lens, and since it is that popular I know I want it.

Thanks, Longshadow

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Sep 9, 2021 18:10:59   #
gener202002
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
It's a popular lens because it's a good lens, I have one. There are several, both new and used, on ebay.


Thanks, I will check that out, but I have no idea how to use ebay. I have no idea how they control fraud and I have always been hesitant. I think Amazon has them too. I prefer to get it from B&H though, so far I like that company.

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Sep 9, 2021 18:32:00   #
gener202002
 
apparently, this lens fits the canon t7 which I have, but use my mark6. I suppose I will have to buy an adapter for it if I get it. I have a really hard time finding professional lenses for Canon m series cameras. Anybody know what the best converter might be?

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Sep 9, 2021 19:01:24   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
gener202002 wrote:
apparently, this lens fits the canon t7 which I have, but use my mark6. I suppose I will have to buy an adapter for it if I get it. I have a really hard time finding professional lenses for Canon m series cameras. Anybody know what the best converter might be?


Canon's equipment for Canon equipment is always your best bet. The adapter is titled "EF to EF-M Adapter", about $200.

What you lose with a full-frame lens on a cropped-sensor is the 'wide end'. I shoot a lot of 24mm on full-frame bodies. Buying an L-series lens that gives me just 38mm equivalent on the wide end is a difficult expense to justify. For the same FF focal length, look at the status and availability of the EF 24–105mm f/3.5–5.6 IS STM. This non L-series lens is sharper than the older L version and less than half the price of the series II lens. This option gives you the DSLR support along with the adapter to the EOS M.

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Sep 9, 2021 20:11:13   #
gener202002
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Canon's equipment for Canon equipment is always your best bet. The adapter is titled "EF to EF-M Adapter", about $200.

What you lose with a full-frame lens on a cropped-sensor is the 'wide end'. I shoot a lot of 24mm on full-frame bodies. Buying an L-series lens that gives me just 38mm equivalent on the wide end is a difficult expense to justify. For the same FF focal length, look at the status and availability of the EF 24–105mm f/3.5–5.6 IS STM. This non L-series lens is sharper than the older L version and less than half the price of the series II lens. This option gives you the DSLR support along with the adapter to the EOS M.
Canon's equipment for Canon equipment is i always... (show quote)


Thanks, CANON, that is really good information.

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Sep 9, 2021 20:20:42   #
gener202002
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Canon's equipment for Canon equipment is always your best bet. The adapter is titled "EF to EF-M Adapter", about $200.

What you lose with a full-frame lens on a cropped-sensor is the 'wide end'. I shoot a lot of 24mm on full-frame bodies. Buying an L-series lens that gives me just 38mm equivalent on the wide end is a difficult expense to justify. For the same FF focal length, look at the status and availability of the EF 24–105mm f/3.5–5.6 IS STM. This non L-series lens is sharper than the older L version and less than half the price of the series II lens. This option gives you the DSLR support along with the adapter to the EOS M.
Canon's equipment for Canon equipment is i always... (show quote)



Once again, a very useful bit of information. When I first bought my m6, I had a very hard time getting good focus on all parts of the picture. Then I found that at least one of the scenic choices gives you the option of getting sharp images throughout the entire picture. Since I found that out, I have had very good success with most of my pictures. The basic lens is very good. I do find that with the basic 18 to 45mm lens, if I use a lens hood, the hood finds itself into the picture for any pictures less than 28mm. I read somewhere where lens hoods actually have an effect on the quality of the picture, so I think i will continue using it. That probably wouldn't be a problem on the zoom lenses. I want a professional lens, but a very good work lens, such as the one you are mentioning, sounds like a good solution. It doesn't have to be THAT professional.

Thanks

Thanks

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Sep 9, 2021 20:25:04   #
gener202002
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Canon's equipment for Canon equipment is always your best bet. The adapter is titled "EF to EF-M Adapter", about $200.

What you lose with a full-frame lens on a cropped-sensor is the 'wide end'. I shoot a lot of 24mm on full-frame bodies. Buying an L-series lens that gives me just 38mm equivalent on the wide end is a difficult expense to justify. For the same FF focal length, look at the status and availability of the EF 24–105mm f/3.5–5.6 IS STM. This non L-series lens is sharper than the older L version and less than half the price of the series II lens. This option gives you the DSLR support along with the adapter to the EOS M.
Canon's equipment for Canon equipment is i always... (show quote)



B&H says that particular lens has been discontinued. I will have to see if there are any on amazon or such places

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Sep 9, 2021 23:22:31   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
gener202002 wrote:
B&H says that particular lens has been discontinued. I will have to see if there are any on amazon or such places


The Canon site had it refurbished when I went looking for the exact title. Canon is very quickly discontinuing their EF lenses for RF models, seemingly as soon as the corresponding RF lens is released.

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Sep 9, 2021 23:47:27   #
gener202002
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The Canon site had it refurbished when I went looking for the exact title. Canon is very quickly discontinuing their EF lenses for RF models, seemingly as soon as the corresponding RF lens is released.



Okay, thanks. I wonder how well converters for r series lenses work to convert to m series. It seems that Canon has no interest in the m series mirrorless. It is hard to find lenses for them. Does it work better to convert r series lenses to m series than ef to m?

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Sep 10, 2021 07:37:34   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
It's a popular lens because it's a good lens, I have one. There are several, both new and used, on ebay.


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Sep 10, 2021 07:38:14   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
There isn't (won't) be an RF to M adapter. The issue is due to the 18mm 'flange distance' of the RF mount, where the rear of a RF lens sits 18mm from the sensor, while the M-mount is designed for lenses to be 20mm from the sensor. Even if a 2mm solution and all the electronics was developed, moving the RF lens 2mm further away from the sensor causes the RF lens to lose the ability to focus to infinity.

Canon has tried to avoid the alphabet soup of lens and mount differences ala Nikon. We're watching to see if they retain the M-mount exclusively for cropped mirrorless bodies. Or, they retire the M series and develop cropped sensors in the EOS R line. There's speculation but not even any rumors coming out of Canon on their exact direction / decision.

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Sep 10, 2021 09:03:55   #
picsix
 
I have been a Canon user for many years. I have also acquired many Canon EF lenses. I bought the EOS R5 along with an adapter to use my existing lenses on my new camera. I have to say, it wasn't the same! I wasn't getting the clear great shots I was used to. I ended up purchasing both the 24-70 and the 24-105 lenses- the RF lenses meant for the new R5. I had to search high and low on-line to find them. Be patient- they're worth the wait!

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