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Sep 5, 2021 20:03:38   #
Charles 46277 Loc: Fulton County, KY
 
scuff wrote:
I'm teaching our photography/yearbook class for our homeschool co-op. I need to recommend cameras for parents to purchase for their students, $50-$200 range. We're also looking for a few cheap cameras to have for the school to supplement those who can't afford it. What would you recommend that I recommend? I don't know much about this price range. I'd like them to be able to practice with manual. And, they won't be printed very large, so that doesn't have to be great, but the classrooms are often a bit dark. thanks.
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A small sensor with low Mp for up to 8x10 prints gives you enormous leeway for beginners. I just opened eBay and saw Nikon s7000 (new $300) for $80. But there are thousands there to choose from. Have them check with you before ordering to make sure it meets your needs and looks like a good seller (eBay will back up guaranteed returns). They go under $50 for pretty good starters (with manual mode) and pretty versatile zooms, and all the familiar brands are good. Today eBayers ship very fast and often for free. I look for a seller who knows about the product, not just somebody clearing out an estate.

If they want new, see if a camera store can get you a deal for what you want. Their suppliers might give them a school discount. (Probably not a big box store--they may not be able to make deals.) If you have local camera clubs, they may be willing to contribute older gear.

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Sep 5, 2021 20:41:52   #
k2edm Loc: FN32AD
 
Bobspez wrote:
"I'm guessing they all have cell phones or their parents have cameras. Let them use those and set the cameras for their highest quality. If they can't shoot manual, then they can still learn to focus and frame a picture correctly. ".




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Sep 9, 2021 07:01:54   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
scuff wrote:
I'm teaching our photography/yearbook class for our homeschool co-op. I need to recommend cameras for parents to purchase for their students, $50-$200 range. We're also looking for a few cheap cameras to have for the school to supplement those who can't afford it. What would you recommend that I recommend? I don't know much about this price range. I'd like them to be able to practice with manual. And, they won't be printed very large, so that doesn't have to be great, but the classrooms are often a bit dark. thanks.
I'm teaching our photography/yearbook class for ou... (show quote)


Teaching photography at this level should not be encumbered by learning how to use a camera. It really should be about learning how to see, compose and record the world around them and what the students want to learn. One of the most valuable skills you will teach your group is how to be self-critical. That is really all you need to teach them.

You may want them to learn how to manually control a camera, but if the group is young, I think that would be a mistake. As they learn to use their phones with greater skill and emphasis on content, the rest will come in time.

Rmalarz's and others suggestion is stellar! A cellphone with a good manual photo app like those described here, would be far more manageable with better outcomes.

https://www.androidauthority.com/manual-mode-mobile-photography-984189/
https://iphonephotographyschool.com/iphone-camera-controls/


Besides, settling on a single or at most two apps for the cellphone cameras will make your job easier with everyone being on the same page. Just think about how many adults there are on this forum that struggle with the basics. Keep it simple, make it easy, they will learn, they will improve right before your eyes.

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Sep 9, 2021 11:40:16   #
dkburrows72 Loc: Lake George, NY
 
I would recommend buying used entry level cameras from somewhere like KEH.com, MPB.com or bhphotovideo.com. You can get older model entry level camera bodies for around $200 such as the Nikon D3200 and they are still fairly modern digital cameras with high resolution sensors.

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Sep 25, 2021 19:44:30   #
awesome14 Loc: UK
 
I don't want a camera that many owners want to get rid of. I want one that is scarce and costly on the used market.

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Sep 25, 2021 22:00:12   #
Charles 46277 Loc: Fulton County, KY
 
awesome14 wrote:
I don't want a camera that many owners want to get rid of. I want one that is scarce and costly on the used market.


Fair enough--resale value is a factor, but market value is not always what I like... there are plenty of scarce and costly cameras that I don't want, such as the $5,500 used Leica black and white digital camera.

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Sep 26, 2021 02:14:50   #
KindaSpikey Loc: English living in San Diego
 
awesome14 wrote:
I don't want a camera that many owners want to get rid of. I want one that is scarce and costly on the used market.


Wait, what? I must be getting old I guess. I'm not sure I'm understanding this. Are you actually looking for a used rare camera that is expensive for you to buy?

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Sep 26, 2021 09:25:26   #
Charles 46277 Loc: Fulton County, KY
 
KindaSpikey wrote:
Wait, what? I must be getting old I guess. I'm not sure I'm understanding this. Are you actually looking for a used rare camera that is expensive for you to buy?


Kinda, isn't that what collectors do? Nothing wrong with that...

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Sep 26, 2021 13:42:37   #
KindaSpikey Loc: English living in San Diego
 
Charles 46277 wrote:
Kinda, isn't that what collectors do? Nothing wrong with that...


Yes I completely agree, but I thought the original question was to find a "good camera for a beginner"?

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Sep 28, 2021 08:03:28   #
TommiRulz Loc: Corpus Christi, TX
 
Hi - Ebay will have lots of good older DSLR's for sale in that range. But here is my big tip.... tell everyone to buy the same brand (canon or nikon) - that way you all can share lenses, and it will make teaching easier. I tell my students to get any Canon Rebel they can afford, any rebel starting with a " t " in the name, (t3, t7i etc..) If you take your time and read the descriptions you should be able to find many nice cameras for under 200 on Ebay.

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Sep 28, 2021 08:12:52   #
TommiRulz Loc: Corpus Christi, TX
 
Here are a couple that I would recommend to my students:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/133885178664?epid=100127676&hash=item1f2c2db328:g:MjcAAOSwVGdhS4Gi

https://www.ebay.com/itm/194386337298?hash=item2d42541e12%3Ag%3AASEAAOSwgLZhTOiu&LH_BIN=1

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Sep 28, 2021 08:22:48   #
Chicago312 Loc: Western suburb, Chicago
 
fjdarling wrote:
I have to echo CHG_CANON's suggestion regarding previous (used) Canon EOS Rebel models and Nikon D3xxx models. Beginners I know who have those models like them for learning the basics. They are very capable for the price and are not overly complicated to operate. I see those entry-level units (some even with a standard kit lens) on the reputable used-gear sites within your stated price range. Good luck in your search.
By the way, MPB.com has a bunch of used Nikon D3100's rated "Excellent" for $109 without lenses.
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I agree as well - the Rebels and D3xxx models are your best choices. The kit lenses can also be purchased used for <$100. If the goal is to teach beginners, these cameras/lenses will work fine.

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