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Sep 5, 2021 20:05:02   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Abo wrote:
Thanks.

It's hard to believe but true, that bike is good for 100mph... in first gear.


I hate to think what the rpm's to do 100 in first does to the engine's life expectancy.

I used to ride and for several years owned the street legal version of a very hot 350cc two-stroke that at the time was kicking other bikes up to 900cc on the racing circuit.

One day on a nearly deserted interstate out in the desert a CHP bike officer pulled next to me and mouthed "Is that thing as fast as they claim? Lets see how it compares to mine." Then he upped his speed and pulled ahead of me, I did the same - repeat about 4 times and we are going way faster than a sensible person would want to (I was a mid-20s Vietnam vet and a touch nuts at times.*) when he mouthed "That's it for mine." I grinned, pointed to the clutch and held up three fingers to show I was only in third of five gears. Then I popped it into forth and fifth as I pulled away from him. After about a mile I slowed down to legal speed while he caught up to me and just looked at my bike with a big grin on his face, shook his head and waved goodbye as I took the next off ramp to turn around and go home.

*When I got stressed etc. I would go on the interstate/freeway and chase trucks or fast moving cars to force myself to concentrate and forget what was stressing me out. Then I would get off the freeway and make my way towards home on surface streets exploring areas I had never been to. It worked, and I lived through it. A few years later I traded for a 750cc cruiser with full fairing CB radio and stereo, saddle bags etc. and used it to just cruise around for fun or go to work if my regular ride was in the shop. I had a spot right next to my classroom they let me park it so I could watch it and keep students from playing with it.
One night I was just cruising at about 60 on the way to a friend's house westbound on the I-210 coming up to Pasadena with classical music blaring when a big Mercedes that was passing me in the fast lane suddenly slowed and dropped back even with me. The passenger window dropped a few inches and I saw a woman's ear up to the opening, then she turned to the driver and was pointing at me and shaking her head yes. Astonished that the biker in combat boots, jeans and an Army field jacket was listening to Mozart. I smiled, waved and took my off ramp.
I gave the bike to charity Dec 2019 and now my only ride is a comfortable mid-sized SUV.

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Sep 6, 2021 06:01:31   #
hrblaine
 
[quote=Abo]"Who needs to be a 'linguistics professor'
to know the difference between a word and an acronym.


Using "RAW" just makes you seem ignorant..."

To you maybe but not to me. Anyway, stop showing off. we really
don't care how educated you are. Especially since you seem to
be educated in BS! Most people go happily through life not worrying about the difference
between a word and an acronym. Harry PS Your post makes you seem like a 'hole.
I mean did you have to tell him that he's ignorant? We don't come here for language lessons,
especially those couched in insults!

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Sep 6, 2021 09:23:03   #
MabelLucy Loc: Oregon
 
Abo wrote:
Go for it, adjusting your raw images can be very satisfying.

Do you have a program for editing raw files?

It seems your camera has a raw mode. Possibly
the camera came with a CD-ROM with a raw editing
program or have invited you to their website
to download a program?

And kudos for writing "raw" and not "RAW"... "raw" is not an acronym.
It's "raw" as in uncooked.
Go for it, adjusting your raw images can be very ... (show quote)


Well said about raw…And I don’t have to try and make all caps. 🙂

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Sep 6, 2021 09:24:42   #
MabelLucy Loc: Oregon
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
What camera? What software? Those are the issues 1 and 1a. Users of specific software (and cameras) can provide more directly actionable advice specific to your equipment. You can / should google youtube for RAW editing demonstrations using your software, a great way to get usage ideas.

Relative to getting started, the camera's typically free software will apply the camera defaults to the RAW image as if it was a JPEG from the camera. This can make it hard to recognize the opportunities to 'push' the image. If there's an <auto tone> option in your software, try that function and see what the software does to the image. Take it from there with the various sliders in your tool.

When you become a RAW photographer, you become the decision maker for the following considerations in post processing, where many had been decided by the camera for the JPEG:

1. Sharpening
2. Noise Reduction
3. Color Saturation
4. Exposure adjustments, general
5. Contrast, general
6. Highlights and shadows
7. White Balance
8. Lens corrections
9. Color space
10. Pixel resolution for target image share platforms
11. Disk storage (for the larger files)
12. Image file back-up strategy (for those larger files)

You don't have to understand all these issues, but when you do, you'll be much more successful as a RAW photographer.
What camera? What software? Those are the issues 1... (show quote)


Canon7D Markii…photos and infinity photo on iMac…😀

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Sep 6, 2021 09:25:32   #
MabelLucy Loc: Oregon
 
Longshadow wrote:
Simple.
Edit with a RAW editor, same editing philosophy as JPEG, just different (more) editing options.
Save edits as JPEG.
Nothing magical.


Thank you 😊

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Sep 6, 2021 09:26:18   #
MabelLucy Loc: Oregon
 
Longshadow wrote:
To each his own, I like RAW...
But I'm not a language/linguistics professor.

Besides, it matches the font for JPEG.


Good one…😂

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Sep 6, 2021 09:28:41   #
MabelLucy Loc: Oregon
 
Longshadow wrote:
Okay, I be igmorant. I don't feel bad...



😂😂😂

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Sep 6, 2021 11:01:58   #
Abo
 
robertjerl wrote:
I hate to think what the rpm's to do 100 in first does to the engine's life expectancy.

I used to ride and for several years owned the street legal version of a very hot 350cc two-stroke that at the time was kicking other bikes up to 900cc on the racing circuit.

One day on a nearly deserted interstate out in the desert a CHP bike officer pulled next to me and mouthed "Is that thing as fast as they claim? Lets see how it compares to mine." Then he upped his speed and pulled ahead of me, I did the same - repeat about 4 times and we are going way faster than a sensible person would want to (I was a mid-20s Vietnam vet and a touch nuts at times.*) when he mouthed "That's it for mine." I grinned, pointed to the clutch and held up three fingers to show I was only in third of five gears. Then I popped it into forth and fifth as I pulled away from him. After about a mile I slowed down to legal speed while he caught up to me and just looked at my bike with a big grin on his face, shook his head and waved goodbye as I took the next off ramp to turn around and go home.

*When I got stressed etc. I would go on the interstate/freeway and chase trucks or fast moving cars to force myself to concentrate and forget what was stressing me out. Then I would get off the freeway and make my way towards home on surface streets exploring areas I had never been to. It worked, and I lived through it. A few years later I traded for a 750cc cruiser with full fairing CB radio and stereo, saddle bags etc. and used it to just cruise around for fun or go to work if my regular ride was in the shop. I had a spot right next to my classroom they let me park it so I could watch it and keep students from playing with it.
One night I was just cruising at about 60 on the way to a friend's house westbound on the I-210 coming up to Pasadena with classical music blaring when a big Mercedes that was passing me in the fast lane suddenly slowed and dropped back even with me. The passenger window dropped a few inches and I saw a woman's ear up to the opening, then she turned to the driver and was pointing at me and shaking her head yes. Astonished that the biker in combat boots, jeans and an Army field jacket was listening to Mozart. I smiled, waved and took my off ramp.
I gave the bike to charity Dec 2019 and now my only ride is a comfortable mid-sized SUV.
I hate to think what the rpm's to do 100 in first ... (show quote)


The Gen 1 ZX10R pictured on page ten, redlines at 13,000 RPM, the rev limiter kicks in about 200 RPM later.
So it actually does about 200 RPM more than 161kmh (100mph) in first.

13000 RPM does not impact engine life per se.
The machine is a homologation model for the World Superbike Championship.
With the race ECU the redline is 14,000 RPM.
In any one track day, the engine goes past 13,000 RPM hundreds of times.

They are an astoundingly reliable motorcycle... as long as they have
the proper maintenance conducted by skilled and caring hands... coming from a company
that makes space craft, it's not too surprising.

I'd done over 60,000km on the one on page ten (when it was running
at least as well as it was when new) when I had the back of the bike pass
the front of the bike and wrote it off... oops!

3 contributing factors to that off:

1.The road had been damaged by trucks.
2. Had changed to a less soft compound rear tyre... not as much traction as the previous rear tyre at that temperature.
3. Pilot error... shoulda' used less right wrist.

I've replaced the ZX10R with a ZX12R... an extra 200 cubes
with a more civilized engine tune and more leg room... more fitting for a 65yo man like yours truly.
Click for a view of the 12: https://static.uglyhedgehog.com/upload/2021/8/31/465729-e_1920_resize_vig_filter_f.jpg

Anyway Rob, the road ECU (on the 10) also limits top speed to 300kmh (186mph) which with the standard
sprockets is reached in 5th gear (in 19 seconds from stationary) with one more gear still up your sleeve.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6vk2uem47g

Bikes have come a long way since the RZ350 of the 80s Rob... they were seriously fast for a 350 of the era though.
Having said that, I wish I had one in the hanger.

Below's a nicely restored and lightly modified one I photographed earlier in the year:


(Download)

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Sep 6, 2021 14:19:50   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
GeneinChi wrote:
I’ve decided to dip my toe into shooting raw. Having never done this, I’m looking for suggestions that can ease me into pp and grow from there. Please keep in mind I’m a beginner.
Thanks in advance.

Gene


Although dated I would suggest you read Jeff Schewe's book The Digital Negative and then his The Digital Print.

The first one, Digital Negative will give you a great intro to the terminology and use of LrC especially, but is applicable to almost any post processing software. Neither of these books is a difficult read.

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Sep 6, 2021 14:46:11   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Abo wrote:
The Gen 1 ZX10R pictured on page ten, redlines at 13,000 RPM, the rev limiter kicks in about 200 RPM later.
So it actually does about 200 RPM more than 161kmh (100mph) in first.

13000 RPM does not impact engine life per se.
The machine is a homologation model for the World Superbike Championship.
With the race ECU the redline is 14,000 RPM.
In any one track day, the engine goes past 13,000 RPM hundreds of times.

They are an astoundingly reliable motorcycle... as long as they have
the proper maintenance conducted by skilled and caring hands... coming from a company
that makes space craft, it's not too surprising.

I'd done over 60,000km on the one on page ten (when it was running
at least as well as it was when new) when I had the back of the bike pass
the front of the bike and wrote it off... oops!

3 contributing factors to that off:

1.The road had been damaged by trucks.
2. Had changed to a less soft compound rear tyre... not as much traction as the previous rear tyre at that temperature.
3. Pilot error... shoulda' used less right wrist.

I've replaced the ZX10R with a ZX12R... an extra 200 cubes
with a more civilized engine tune and more leg room... more fitting for a 65yo man like yours truly.
Click for a view of the 12: https://static.uglyhedgehog.com/upload/2021/8/31/465729-e_1920_resize_vig_filter_f.jpg

Anyway Rob, the road ECU (on the 10) also limits top speed to 300kmh (186mph) which with the standard
sprockets is reached in 5th gear (in 19 seconds from stationary) with one more gear still up your sleeve.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6vk2uem47g

Bikes have come a long way since the RZ350 of the 80s Rob... they were seriously fast for a 350 of the era though.
Having said that, I wish I had one in the hanger.

Below's a nicely restored and lightly modified one I photographed earlier in the year:
The Gen 1 ZX10R pictured on page ten, redlines at ... (show quote)


Yeah, the tech has changed and advanced. That 750 was an early 80's Kawasaki Spectre Limited Edition. And my RZ350 was metallic red. My then new bride, 6 months pregnant, showed up at the school I was teaching to have lunch with me. She was carrying the snow white helmet I bought her to ride behind me.* "Oh, I rode your bike here and I was drag racing low riders from light to light, it was fun. But it was kind of hard for me to kick start it when it was cold. I bought her a baby blue 250 Electric (electric starter) of her own that weekend. In a couple of years she got over her thing for bikes and when I traded for the 750 both the RZ and her Electric were part of the deal. About 2 weeks later I was at the dealer and there in the shop yard was my RZ looking like it had been crushed. They told me they sold it only 3 days after I traded it and the guy who bought it ran it into a steel postal letter box at way over the speed limit exactly one week later.

*One night we went out for burgers and she asked to "drive" on the way home. OK. Then at the first traffic light a combo low rider drag racer pulled up next to us and the Gang Banger driving yelled out to her "Wanna race Chiquita?" The light changed and she popped a wheelie so high I had to hold on and stomp with both feet to keep from going over backwards and we proceeded to hold the wheelie for half a block while pulling away from the car. The next red light the car caught up with us and the guys in it were looking at us and shaking their heads with eyes that looked those oversize Japanese Anime characters. I convinced her to go a bit slower the rest of the way home.

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Sep 6, 2021 16:05:53   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
I guess y'all are done with the original post?

What's next, snow mobiles?

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Sep 6, 2021 21:56:11   #
cahale Loc: San Angelo, TX
 
GeneinChi wrote:
I’ve decided to dip my toe into shooting raw. Having never done this, I’m looking for suggestions that can ease me into pp and grow from there. Please keep in mind I’m a beginner.
Thanks in advance.

Gene


In my opinion, using the proprietary post processing software native to your camera (and free), is the best way to start. I occasionally begin with a third party processing tool; I just like the way the manufacture's (Sony in my case) works. Then you can go to Adobe or whatever your choice for fine tuning.

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Sep 7, 2021 11:37:23   #
Abo
 
robertjerl wrote:
Yeah, the tech has changed and advanced. That 750 was an early 80's Kawasaki Spectre Limited Edition. And my RZ350 was metallic red. My then new bride, 6 months pregnant, showed up at the school I was teaching to have lunch with me. She was carrying the snow white helmet I bought her to ride behind me.* "Oh, I rode your bike here and I was drag racing low riders from light to light, it was fun. But it was kind of hard for me to kick start it when it was cold. I bought her a baby blue 250 Electric (electric starter) of her own that weekend. In a couple of years she got over her thing for bikes and when I traded for the 750 both the RZ and her Electric were part of the deal. About 2 weeks later I was at the dealer and there in the shop yard was my RZ looking like it had been crushed. They told me they sold it only 3 days after I traded it and the guy who bought it ran it into a steel postal letter box at way over the speed limit exactly one week later.

*One night we went out for burgers and she asked to "drive" on the way home. OK. Then at the first traffic light a combo low rider drag racer pulled up next to us and the Gang Banger driving yelled out to her "Wanna race Chiquita?" The light changed and she popped a wheelie so high I had to hold on and stomp with both feet to keep from going over backwards and we proceeded to hold the wheelie for half a block while pulling away from the car. The next red light the car caught up with us and the guys in it were looking at us and shaking their heads with eyes that looked those oversize Japanese Anime characters. I convinced her to go a bit slower the rest of the way home.
Yeah, the tech has changed and advanced. That 750... (show quote)


Cool bananas... I reckon the red version of the RZ looked the best.
I expect the Spectre was a good deal quicker once was it was wound up than any stock Harley.


Back in the day I had a Spanish girlfriend that loved speed.
At that time I also had a heavily modified K2 Honda 750/4
with a Moriwaki 836cc kit, a lot of head work including larger
valves, Lester magnesium wheels, twin disk front end,
Dunstal tank, Rickman seat, and of course a 4 into one pipe.
It looked like a Laverda Jota with an extra cylinder.

One rainy day I was heading South past the Carlton
footy club on the kinda bumpy service road at, at
least double the speed limit, (boys will be boys)
accelerating hard with the back wheel spinning
up doing long fishies... with said lady on the back
screaming FASTER!!! It was then i realized I
was in love.

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Sep 7, 2021 15:37:52   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
[quote=Abo]Cool bananas... with said lady on the back
screaming FASTER!!! It was then i realized I
was in love
. [/quote

With the lady, the bike or both?

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Sep 8, 2021 05:44:06   #
Abo
 
[quote=robertjerl][quote=Abo]Cool bananas... with said lady on the back
screaming FASTER!!! It was then i realized I
was in love
. [/quote

With the lady, the bike or both?[/quote]

I'd well and truly established a relationship with
that Honda well before that time.

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