Where have all the dslrs gone?
Aug 29, 2021 11:44:28 #
The first graphic below might be a bit hard to read, but it shows that the interchangeable-lens camera market last peaked in 2010 with 121-million combined units sold. Thru 2020 statistics, that number is now 8.7-million. In most businesses, that's called a major contraction aka 'a big problem'. Just from 2018 to 2020, the total number sold was again cut in half.
The second graphic is a bit easier to read, but the data is older.
The second graphic is a bit easier to read, but the data is older.
Aug 29, 2021 11:52:11 #
Stardust wrote:
But couldn't the exact same comments be said of DSLR owners, especially with modern cameras doing the metering, shutter & aperture & ISO control, processing in the camera, etc. And although I use my DSLR camera usually but cell often I find some of the most inconsiderate are those with big cameras stepping in front of phone photographers like they have privilege.
Apparently your experiences are the absolute opposite of mine. If I could never take a photo again except with a phone, I would be finished with photography. On a societal level phones are yin and yang, equal parts of good and bad. At a nice Restaurant the other night, two middle aged adults obviously on a date, were playing with their phones. Anodyne I do not require, I prefer life.
Aug 29, 2021 12:08:40 #
Although I enjoy taking photos with my iPhone 12 ProMax I would never give up my Canon R6 mirrorless or my Fuji XT1. IF I don't expect to take photos the 12 ProMax does the job. Ironically I only upgraded to the 12 Pro Max because of the camera in it, not for any other reason.
Aug 29, 2021 12:16:48 #
quixdraw wrote:
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If I could never take a photo again except with a phone, I would be finished with photography....
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If I could never take a photo again except with a phone, I would be finished with photography....
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Interesting.
I would use the phone.
(Better than no camera.
For me...)
Might even trade up from my Galaxy S-III.
Aug 29, 2021 13:01:01 #
Among many professional and advanced enthusiasts, the DSLR is alive and well. Photographers who are well invested in lenses and other dedicated accessories are not about to pack everything in and retool for other systems unless the present system no longer addresses their needs.
The manufacturing and retail markets are not, however, driven by professionals. They will continue to cater to the amateur market and offer the latest and greatest full-featured cameras and systems. The good aspect of that is that there are indeed some great advances in technology that eventually will appreciate by the pros and more conservative amateurs.
Yes. the HDR in many of the latest cell phone cameras is outstanding as well as the low-light capabilities. I don't however, believe in all this cell phone vs. DSLR, vs. mirrorless cameras ongoing chatter. Each has a place and advantage. It's simple, You can't do fine cabinetry with a 30 lb. sledgehammer, nor can you demolish a wall with a small precision jeweller's hammer. You need the right tool for the right job in every craft.
The manufacturing and retail markets are not, however, driven by professionals. They will continue to cater to the amateur market and offer the latest and greatest full-featured cameras and systems. The good aspect of that is that there are indeed some great advances in technology that eventually will appreciate by the pros and more conservative amateurs.
Yes. the HDR in many of the latest cell phone cameras is outstanding as well as the low-light capabilities. I don't however, believe in all this cell phone vs. DSLR, vs. mirrorless cameras ongoing chatter. Each has a place and advantage. It's simple, You can't do fine cabinetry with a 30 lb. sledgehammer, nor can you demolish a wall with a small precision jeweller's hammer. You need the right tool for the right job in every craft.
Aug 29, 2021 13:18:46 #
quixdraw wrote:
If I could never take a photo again except with a phone, I would be finished with photography.
Or perhaps you would simply learn to get the most out of your phone's camera.
Aug 29, 2021 13:18:48 #
Aug 29, 2021 14:23:32 #
rook2c4 wrote:
Or perhaps you would simply learn to get the most out of your phone's camera.
Well, could be a case of DSLR or nothing attitude.
Aug 29, 2021 14:24:22 #
rook2c4 wrote:
Or perhaps you would simply learn to get the most out of your phone's camera.
I don't have and won't have a cell phone.
Aug 29, 2021 14:29:46 #
Longshadow wrote:
Well, could be a case of DSLR or nothing attitude.
No, I do have DSLRs and prefer them for some things, two different brands of Mirrorless, and numerous film cameras as well. I simply dislike cell phones.
Aug 29, 2021 14:31:02 #
quixdraw wrote:
I don't have and won't have a cell phone.
That would be another reason.
Aug 29, 2021 14:51:39 #
Longshadow wrote:
Great shots!
Maybe the DSLRs haven't "gone away", but there's simply a higher ratio of cell phones to DSLRs now.
Many of the cell phone owners never had DSLRs, nor want one.
Cell phone users simply outnumber DSLR users.
I never sought to differentiate cell phone cameras from DSLRs, they're simply different types of cameras.
Maybe the DSLRs haven't "gone away", but there's simply a higher ratio of cell phones to DSLRs now.
Many of the cell phone owners never had DSLRs, nor want one.
Cell phone users simply outnumber DSLR users.
I never sought to differentiate cell phone cameras from DSLRs, they're simply different types of cameras.
Yes, the people using cell phones only are the ones who would have been using Instamatics back in the day. They just want snapshots for memories and the cell phone does that. In fact the tech is so good that they often do better than many people could do with a good camera.
Just a few years ago when AAA (Auto Club of Southern California) put out their annual photo contest edition the second place shot was done with a cell phone. First place was actually a studio grade sheet film camera used by a serious hobbyist.
Aug 29, 2021 15:01:02 #
quixdraw wrote:
I don't have and won't have a cell phone.
Your loss. I argued for a long time that I didn't need or want one. Now I wouldn't be without one. Just the safety aspect - being able to communicate in times of need - makes it worthwhile.
Aug 29, 2021 15:07:24 #
srt101fan wrote:
Your loss. I argued for a long time that I didn't need or want one. Now I wouldn't be without one. Just the safety aspect - being able to communicate in times of need - makes it worthwhile.
If I can't extricate myself from any situation I get myself into, too bad, so sad.
Aug 29, 2021 15:17:31 #
quixdraw wrote:
Simply, many people are unwilling or unable to learn photography skills. They want to point a little device and have software apps do the work. I just wish there weren't so many of them, and that the most inconsiderate group of them would develop some manners. Disclaimer, I don't own a cell phone, and haven't since I retired.
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