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Aug 23, 2021 15:57:41   #
levinton
 
I regret to say that this is a major fault of photographers. Bird watchers use either good binoculars or spotting scopes which allow long-distance observation. I like the development of minimum distances observing whales, often at least 1000 feet. The advantage here is observation from boats run by responsible tour guides. Hard to herd photographers in the same way.

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Aug 23, 2021 16:05:03   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
How would you behave if you had creatures in your own yard that you enjoyed looking at and perhaps photographing? Would you stomp out and about disrupting them or would you move quietly and discretely at distance doing the best you possibly could to keep their lives normal? This would be good guide to follow when you are out in the world of nature. Of course there are those who only care about the photograph and not the subject in the photograph.

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Aug 23, 2021 16:21:06   #
LEWHITE7747 Loc: 33773
 
levinton wrote:
I regret to say that this is a major fault of photographers. Bird watchers use either good binoculars or spotting scopes which allow long-distance observation. I like the development of minimum distances observing whales, often at least 1000 feet. The advantage here is observation from boats run by responsible tour guides. Hard to herd photographers in the same way.


True birders hate photographers.

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Aug 23, 2021 17:59:53   #
Photocraig
 
1. Bless the Audubon Ranger.
2. Damn the image grabbers. They're not photographers. Photographers respect their subjects.
3. Perhaps the mere suggestion of a minimum Focal length on local signage would induce enough GAS in the affluent interlopers to go buy the $2,000 Tele/Gimbal/tripod rig, and keep their distance.
4. A perfect example if the unintended consequences of the ignorant well meaning populace. "lovin' 'em to death, is a common outcome, both in nature and in woke society.

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Aug 23, 2021 21:07:59   #
11bravo
 
Brokenland wrote:
All it takes is a coupled of bad apples to ruin it for ALL photographers. Thank for reporting this, but sadly there's not enough media to keep people updated on topics like this and this isn't the first time issue like this have occurred. WE All must do our part to look out for one another.


Back in "ancient times" (i.e. pre-mobile phone), most museums would allow photography with the simple admonition of "no flash". Then the simple P&S's arrived defaulted to flash, followed by the HORDES of mobile phones, flash enabled. Now, for museums, just simpler to have a "No photo" policy rather than having to police the constantly popping flashes...

LVtom2020 wrote:
Yes, it's a sad story when you just have to use common sense about basic wildlife 101. I've seen many selfish photographers who have no common sense for fellow photographers, who are on location to do exactly what every photographer is doing getting "the shot." What really kills me is that most of the photographers have expensive "show-off" super-duper zoom lenses (70-200) and are standing up in the front row or "in their face" position, spraying and praying 1,000 shots, without any consideration to the photographers around them. I would have to say out loud, "use that freaking zoom lense feature behind everyone" or "take the shot and give everyone else a chance for a decent shot," I'm not talking about a red carpet shoot, where most photographers have assigned positions. I'm talking street shooting or wild-life shooting where there's no need to hoard a position in defiance to normalcy. But I guess it's human nature and survival of the strongest to be an a**hole. Yes, these selfish photographers give the industry a bad taste.
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Drives me crazy. I'm of the "wait my turn, compose my shot, shoot, then move on" variety. I just love it when I've waited my turn, set the shot, and just as I'm ready to squeeze, some oblivious idiot walks right in front. I do make a comment, and just can't believe it when their reply is "I didn't think I'd be in the shot..." Guess when your photography is only selfie, you don't understand wide angle. And I'm floored when they ask me, "Could you move so I can take a photo?" I just respond that I'm just returning the favor...

jeep_daddy wrote:
I witnessed a really bad one when a group of photographers that were from the far east and pretended to not speak English, brought a step stool and ladder so that they could get up close to a hummingbird nest and take photos. They were putting their lenses literally 3 inches from the chicks. I tried to tell them that the parents are very upset and can't feed the chicks which have to be fed every 20 minutes. They acted like they didn't understand. I couldn't do much else because there are no officials that I could call that could respond. They are stretched really thin and are never in the area. I was ashamed to be a photographer that day because they were giving me and other photographers that respect wildlife a bad name.
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My solution would be to start filming them (pubic space, no expectation of privacy), and when they complained, just say it's for your wechat/youtube posts... You'd be surprised how quickly English emerges... that Asian "Losing Face" WELL understood...

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Aug 23, 2021 21:09:50   #
trapper1 Loc: Southside Virginia
 
Do the Audubon Rangers have arrest authority? If not, the CT game wardens surely have that authority. The Ranger should have called in game wardens or local police (the sworn officers of the court) to handle the situation and arrest or eject the brain-dead photographers involved from the area.

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Aug 23, 2021 21:32:26   #
Haydon
 
I'm photographed there many times but always in a solo capacity with a minimal amount of impact. I don't understand why the coastal ranger didn't have more authority. Personally I see this as a double fault. The photographers and the ranger.

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