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Jul 30, 2021 18:56:11   #
cbtsam Loc: Monkton, MD
 
burkphoto wrote:
And the correct context for interpretation of "Much grass!" is???


My simple version of the Spanish for thanks very much. I don't know the Spanish for thanks very very much, or I'd have suggested that.

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Jul 30, 2021 19:02:54   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
srt101fan wrote:
Muchas gracias?


Ahh, that I understand. Y’all are welcome (as the natives say here).

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Jul 30, 2021 19:04:13   #
cbtsam Loc: Monkton, MD
 
burkphoto wrote:
There has been a lot of interest recently, both here and on YouTube, regarding how to transfer film (slides, black-and-white negatives, and color negatives) to digital files.

I'm in a pretty good position to discuss this, since for five years, I ran a high volume film scanning operation (and all other digital imaging departments) of a major portrait lab. 20 years before that, I did plenty of film duplication as an AV producer making big corporate slide shows. So...

There are three classic ways to do film-to-digital conversions:

> Use a service bureau

> Use a scanner

> Use a digital camera with macro lens or other sort of close-up attachment (enlarger lens on bellows, reversed normal lens on extension tubes, etc.)


The advantage of a service bureau is that you don't do much of anything. Just fill up a box with media and send it off. Some time later, receive your materials back, along with a disc, flash drive, or link to download the files.

The disadvantages of a service are that it is usually a bit expensive when you have lots of files to digitize. The service takes time. Many services send files to a remote scanning sweatshop in an emerging nation, to minimize their labor costs. Confidentiality is impossible to maintain, if you need that. And the quality can range from excellent to excrement.

The advantage of scanners is that you are in control. The scanner can be a reasonable expense ($230 to $1300 for a decent flatbed or film scanner). You can take advantage of technology that removes dust and scratches, restores some semblance of color balance to faded media, and so forth.

The disadvantages of scanning include:

> A lack of speed (Scans can take a boring minute or more per original for high resolution.)

> Complexity (If you don't understand the principles of digital imaging, you can get very disappointing results.)

> A lack of resolution (Flatbeds rarely focus film as accurately as I would like. Effective resolution usually is much lower than the scanner's rated resolution.)

> Obsolescence (I wish I had a $20 bill for every scanner abandoned by its manufacturer in less than five years! I'd take my wife to a fancy restaurant.)

The advantages of using digital cameras with macro lenses include:

> A full 36 exposure roll of film can be "scanned" (copied) in about seven minutes or so.

> Digital cameras can resolve more than original 35mm film did. Use a high resolution camera (50 to 100 MP) on medium format film, and the same is true.

> You can save raw files and process them the same way you would process other digital camera files.

> Excellent software exists for converting both black-and-white and color negatives to positive digital images *without* fighting curves tools.

> You may already have much of what you need to use your digital camera to copy film. Add a light source, a film holder, and some software, and you're set. Almost...

I've spent years mulling over how to proceed to digitize my collection of film. It's of no use to me as film... I want to make videos of it, sell products from it online, preserve some of it for family, etc.

Accordingly, I settled on the copy method for film. I'll flatbed scan prints, but film will get the macro treatment.

I've written a white paper explaining how I am doing it. It is a PDF file you can download and view with your favorite browser or PDF viewer. It contains links to videos, reviews, and commentaries, and to various sources for the products I'm using. (Some of the links may need to be copied and pasted into the URL line of your browser.) I've also included some samples I "scanned" from images recorded on film 30 to 50 years ago. Enjoy:

>
There has been a lot of interest recently, both he... (show quote)


I'm wondering one thing. You show how short strips of negatives can be difficult, and you demonstrate a workaround with your B22 negative carrier. It makes me wonder about 35mm 2x2 mounted slides, which could be thought of as constituting a very very short strip. Is it more time consuming to copy such slides than strips of negatives and, if so, how much more?

And again, much grass for a contribution that I expect to find very helpful indeed.

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Jul 30, 2021 19:26:21   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
cbtsam wrote:
I'm wondering one thing. You show how short strips of negatives can be difficult, and you demonstrate a workaround with your B22 negative carrier. It makes me wonder about 35mm 2x2 mounted slides, which could be thought of as constituting a very very short strip. Is it more time consuming to copy such slides than strips of negatives and, if so, how much more?

And again, much grass for a contribution that I expect to find very helpful indeed.


I ordered the 2” by 2” mounted slide holder with my EFH. It’s perfect. It has cutouts for fingers to remove the slide after copying it. It keeps the slide flat, and usually registered with the camera.

It’s a little slower than sliding 4 or more frames through the 35mm strip holder, but faster than my negative carriers.

Post-processing is easiest with slides, and hardest with color negatives.

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Jul 31, 2021 12:31:39   #
cbtsam Loc: Monkton, MD
 
burkphoto wrote:
I ordered the 2” by 2” mounted slide holder with my EFH. It’s perfect. It has cutouts for fingers to remove the slide after copying it. It keeps the slide flat, and usually registered with the camera.

It’s a little slower than sliding 4 or more frames through the 35mm strip holder, but faster than my negative carriers.

Post-processing is easiest with slides, and hardest with color negatives.


Even more grass! ;-)

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Jul 31, 2021 12:34:54   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
cbtsam wrote:
Even more grass! ;-)


Thanks!

You have quite a nice Flickr stream!

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Jul 31, 2021 14:55:00   #
ulfeld Loc: New York City
 
I think you mean Instagram ... Thank You !

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Jul 31, 2021 15:56:32   #
cbtsam Loc: Monkton, MD
 
burkphoto wrote:
Thanks!

You have quite a nice Flickr stream!


Even more grass!!! ;) Really, thanks very much; compliments won't get you everything, but with me, you can make considerable headway!

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Jul 31, 2021 17:05:56   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
ulfeld wrote:
I think you mean Instagram ... Thank You !


No, the URL is in your signature line. It’s Flickr.

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Jul 31, 2021 19:07:14   #
cbtsam Loc: Monkton, MD
 
burkphoto wrote:
No, the URL is in your signature line. It’s Flickr.


There's some confusion, I believe, about whose flickr stream is at issue. It's my sense, though I certainly could be mistaken, that it's mine you were referring to, as you did so while quoting my "much grass" nonsense. The fellow who has an instagram stream is a different person, as I don't use instagram.

Hope that helps.

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Jul 31, 2021 19:08:39   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
cbtsam wrote:
There's some confusion, I believe, about whose flickr stream is at issue. It's my sense, though I certainly could be mistaken, that it's mine you were referring to, as you did so while quoting my "much grass" nonsense. The fellow who has an instagram stream is a different person, as I don't use instagram.

Hope that helps.


Yep. I clicked on *your* signature line.

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Jul 31, 2021 19:09:15   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
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Oct 15, 2023 13:33:22   #
Chris63 Loc: Central WI
 
Thanks for the information!

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