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Aug 1, 2021 10:28:23   #
seano
 
I am a Ryobi fan and have a number of their cordless tools. I did buy non-Ryobi batteries from Amazon for much less than Ryobi batteries.

I have a nice drill from Walmart that I really like also. I couldn't finds spare battery for it so I bought a lot from Wal-Mart online with the same drill, battery and charger for $24.99. What a deal!

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Aug 1, 2021 10:35:23   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Abo wrote:
Mate! disassemble the battery pack and solder in new Lithium ions... play your cards right
and you can even have more amp hours in the same case Jerry.


Sure! But soldering is a no-no. You have to spot weld them. I would have to make a welder using a car battery or buy one. Not worth the trouble. I tried replacing the battery in a toothbrush by soldering. It was a waste of time and money. There are lots of online videos about how to do this.

Nickel strips $15, cheap spot welder $53, ten 2Ah batteries $19.


https://www.google.com/search?q=spot+weld+lithium+batteries&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS925US925&sxsrf=ALeKk03RAS2pcDd0oozxuYhGo5-jDN76FA%3A1627828404965&ei=tLAGYaeYOuGx5NoP7eG64AE&oq=spot+weld+lithium+batteries&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBggAEAcQHjIGCAAQBxAeMgYIABAHEB4yBggAEAcQHjIICAAQCBAHEB4yCAgAEAgQBxAeOgoIABAHEAUQChAeOgYIABAIEB5KBAhBGABQ-GZYwXRgnHVoAHACeACAAU-IAawFkgECMTCYAQCgAQHAAQE&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwinwtSuhZDyAhXhGFkFHe2wDhwQ4dUDCA8&uact=5#kpvalbx=_3bAGYdCmL7qx5NoPqNyHiAs43

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Aug 1, 2021 11:03:44   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
TriX wrote:
Today, I had to drive ~ 500 3” deck screws into the 2x6 treated planks for the floor of a screen porch I’m building. I thought it might be a bit tough on my 18V Porter Cable cordless drill, so I dragged out my trusty DeWalt 1/2 corded drill which hadn’t been used since I bought the cordless. About half a dozen screws later, I put it down and picked up the cordless - half the weight and much better speed control. Took about 2-1/2 hours including beer breaks (it’s hot out there) and 2 batteries with charge left over in the 2nd, and the drill is barely warm. ‘Nuff said.
Today, I had to drive ~ 500 3” deck screws into th... (show quote)


For decks or porches I wouln't use 3 inch screws/ I would use clips. They do not use visable sxrews. Clip screws are 1 5/8. Not visable and much easier, and quicker. Thats why pros use them

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Aug 1, 2021 11:40:49   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I have several cheap, generic cordless tools that came with batteries. Just out of curiosity, I looked for replacement batteries - no luck, but not surprising. On the other hand, these tools with batteries cost me less than a brand name battery alone, so that's okay. These are minor tools - drill and screwdriver - that I keep in the house for small jobs.

I gave in and bought a small cordless Ryobi shop vac. Amazon has it for $115, but Home Depot is selling it for $99. By adding a cordless shop light to the order, I got $50 off the whole order. My old LED shop light died, so this is perfect timing. With the batteries I have now, I was limited to DeWalt or Ryobi. The Ryobi tested very well (Project Farm), and the price was a major consideration.
I have several cheap, generic cordless tools that ... (show quote)


My first cordless drill and saw was from Sears. It was 7.2v and looked exactly like the Makita 7.2v stuff. I used it for probably 5 years or so and then the batteries wouldn't hold a charge. I tried to get batteries from Sears, but they had discontinued it and the Makita 7.2 battery didn't fit (even tho they looked very similar). My drill had the Craftsman name on it but still they wouldn't help me. I guess only the hand tools are guaranteed for life.

Now I have DeWalt 18 volt stuff and they've been replaced by the 20v tools. I was able to buy a couple of 18v batteries recently, but I just found out they make an adapter for the 20v batteries to fit into the 18v tools. I like the 20v tools because they are smaller, lighter, and more powerful, but they are also expensive so I'll keep using my 18v tools and when I need a new battery I'll get the adapter.

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Aug 1, 2021 11:42:43   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
[quote=boberic]For decks or porches I wouln't use 3 inch screws/ I would use clips. They do not use visable sxrews. Clip screws are 1 5/8. Not visable and much easier, and quicker. Thats why pros use them.

These were 2x6 treated wood, not composite.

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Aug 1, 2021 15:55:48   #
chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand
 
Abo wrote:
Mate! disassemble the battery pack and solder in new Lithium ions... play your cards right
and you can even have more amp hours in the same case Jerry.

But be bloody careful how you solder the LiOH battery ends. The top is okay but the bottoms have a habit of spitting sparks and becoming toast. Use a spot welder designed for the job and make sure the batteries are designed for a heavy discharge (the type used for vape thingys BUT also watch what the end caps are made of because some don't spot weld too well). You can't just use the type that you would put in a torch.
Best source is an old battery, remove the dead cell(s) in it and the rest are probably okay. The issue of battery source can be a problem. To buy enough of the right cells to give you a higher capacity battery can negate the DIY approach re cost.

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Aug 1, 2021 16:00:23   #
chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
Now I have DeWalt 18 volt stuff and they've been replaced by the 20v tools. I was able to buy a couple of 18v batteries recently, but I just found out they make an adapter for the 20v batteries to fit into the 18v tools. I like the 20v tools because they are smaller, lighter, and more powerful, but they are also expensive so I'll keep using my 18v tools and when I need a new battery I'll get the adapter.

Same battery but one is calculated at the nominal voltage and the other is calculated at the fully charged voltage. Same number of cells. They did this so the average home punter thinks he is getting a better deal with a higher voltage. And they usually added a bit of plastic so they wouldn't be interchangeable and coincided it with releasing the brushless tools. So you have an "excuse" to "upgrade".

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Aug 1, 2021 16:46:45   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
boberic wrote:
For decks or porches I wouln't use 3 inch screws/ I would use clips. They do not use visable sxrews. Clip screws are 1 5/8. Not visable and much easier, and quicker. Thats why pros use them

clips work on either composite or treated or untreated wood

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Aug 1, 2021 16:51:18   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
boberic wrote:
clips work on either composite or treated or untreated wood


How would the clip fasten to on a rectangular board with no groves or ridges?

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Aug 1, 2021 16:54:38   #
Amielee Loc: Eastern Washington State
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I have several cheap, generic cordless tools that came with batteries. Just out of curiosity, I looked for replacement batteries - no luck, but not surprising. On the other hand, these tools with batteries cost me less than a brand name battery alone, so that's okay. These are minor tools - drill and screwdriver - that I keep in the house for small jobs.

I gave in and bought a small cordless Ryobi shop vac. Amazon has it for $115, but Home Depot is selling it for $99. By adding a cordless shop light to the order, I got $50 off the whole order. My old LED shop light died, so this is perfect timing. With the batteries I have now, I was limited to DeWalt or Ryobi. The Ryobi tested very well (Project Farm), and the price was a major consideration.
I have several cheap, generic cordless tools that ... (show quote)


I used to use only very good name brand tools, mostly Bosch. While out of town I had over $3800.00 worth of tools stolen. Now I use Ryobi for the most part but if it is only a one or two time job I use Harbor Freight tools. However I am considering some of the midrange and higher Harbor Freight stuff.

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Aug 1, 2021 21:56:49   #
SunBeach1962 Loc: Syrscuse, NY
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
I use mostly battery powered tools. I have spare batteries so picking up a tool with a dead battery is no problem. I just swap it for a spare and put the dead one on the charger. In fact, when I pick up a tool to do something I usually just pick up a spare battery with it so I don't have to come back to swap it out.

There are lots of times on the farm when I needed a tool and I was 1000 ft away from a power outlet. Battery tools are essential. Either that, or carry a generator around with me.
I use mostly battery powered tools. I have spare b... (show quote)


My 2021 Ford F150 has a 120 duplex in the back left corner of the 5'6" box and a second on in the cab. I have not tried them yet, but will next time I have to have power away from the house. I have A 29 piece Robie kit now with 6 batteries and 2 chargers that is at least 6 years old. I don't use them every day, but when I do I love not having to change bits or batteries.

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Aug 2, 2021 10:44:02   #
classic320
 
Several posts above have praised Royobi but I have had a different experience with their 40 amp batteries in lawn tools. I have 3 batteries that look like they're charged (according to the on battery lights and the charger status lights) but only one actually works. I'm trying a few YouTube hacks to restore usefulness.....

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Aug 5, 2021 12:26:13   #
Abo
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Sure! But soldering is a no-no. You have to spot weld them. I would have to make a welder using a car battery or buy one. Not worth the trouble. I tried replacing the battery in a toothbrush by soldering. It was a waste of time and money. There are lots of online videos about how to do this.

Nickel strips $15, cheap spot welder $53, ten 2Ah batteries $19.


https://www.google.com/search?q=spot+weld+lithium+batteries&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS925US925&sxsrf=ALeKk03RAS2pcDd0oozxuYhGo5-jDN76FA%3A1627828404965&ei=tLAGYaeYOuGx5NoP7eG64AE&oq=spot+weld+lithium+batteries&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBggAEAcQHjIGCAAQBxAeMgYIABAHEB4yBggAEAcQHjIICAAQCBAHEB4yCAgAEAgQBxAeOgoIABAHEAUQChAeOgYIABAIEB5KBAhBGABQ-GZYwXRgnHVoAHACeACAAU-IAawFkgECMTCYAQCgAQHAAQE&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwinwtSuhZDyAhXhGFkFHe2wDhwQ4dUDCA8&uact=5#kpvalbx=_3bAGYdCmL7qx5NoPqNyHiAs43
Sure! But soldering is a no-no. You have to spot... (show quote)


You can buy the batteries "tabbed"... that you can solder.

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