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Jul 20, 2021 10:15:26   #
martinfisherphoto Loc: Lake Placid Florida
 
Life is still not back to normal, now we have a p******c of the none v******ted, not to mention half the country believes in the Big Lie. California is already starting the mask mandate indoors all over again. I guess the Republicans won't be happy till we have to shut the country down again, not to mention the sick and dying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TogbPPyQQM

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Jul 20, 2021 10:56:08   #
tradio Loc: Oxford, Ohio
 
You're not serious are you?
It was the Democrats that shut the Country down.

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Jul 20, 2021 10:56:24   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
martinfisherphoto wrote:
Life is still not back to normal, now we have a p******c of the none v******ted, not to mention half the country believes in the Big Lie. California is already starting the mask mandate indoors all over again. I guess the Republicans won't be happy till we have to shut the country down again, not to mention the sick and dying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TogbPPyQQM


It sure seems that way.

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Jul 20, 2021 11:11:50   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
tradio wrote:
You're not serious are you?
It was the Democrats that shut the Country down.


Because we had a worthless president that ignored the threat to America until it was out of control!!!!

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Jul 20, 2021 11:13:00   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
martinfisherphoto wrote:
Life is still not back to normal, now we have a p******c of the none v******ted, not to mention half the country believes in the Big Lie. California is already starting the mask mandate indoors all over again. I guess the Republicans won't be happy till we have to shut the country down again, not to mention the sick and dying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TogbPPyQQM


And then blame it on others !!!

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Jul 20, 2021 11:15:31   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
tradio wrote:
You're not serious are you?
It was the Democrats that shut the Country down.


Interesting perspective.

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Jul 20, 2021 11:15:40   #
JRiepe Loc: Southern Illinois
 
https://www.kff.org/c****av***s-c****-**/issue-brief/latest-data-on-c****-**-v******tions-race-ethnicity/

Well, well, well isn't this interesting. B****s and Hispanics are the most reluctant to get the v*****e and most of them are not Republicans. And I don't remember Trump letting hundreds of thousands cross our border during the p******c. Let's deal with facts here and stop blaming Republicans for every ill of this country.

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Jul 20, 2021 11:26:41   #
martinfisherphoto Loc: Lake Placid Florida
 
tradio wrote:
You're not serious are you?
It was the Democrats that shut the Country down.


Just trying to save a few lives...

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Jul 20, 2021 11:28:40   #
DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"
 
JRiepe wrote:
https://www.kff.org/c****av***s-c****-**/issue-brief/latest-data-on-c****-**-v******tions-race-ethnicity/

Well, well, well isn't this interesting. B****s and Hispanics are the most reluctant to get the v*****e and most of them are not Republicans. And I don't remember Trump letting hundreds of thousands cross our border during the p******c. Let's deal with facts here and stop blaming Republicans for every ill of this country.


Keep it simple, worst surge of the Delta variant are those that are the deepest red states.

True republicans are not the problem. The problem is the trump supporters who are willing, actually eager, to believe the BIG LIE.

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Jul 20, 2021 11:35:14   #
JRiepe Loc: Southern Illinois
 
C,mon let's hear it. How dumb is it to let hundreds of thousands cross our border during a p******c and none of you want to mention it nor condemn it only because it's a move by someone you believe to be a genius? If Old Joe is worried about the p******c why doesn't he stop the influx of people crossing our border with many being C***D positive. None of you want to put any blame for the rise of C***D on any Democrat v**er or future v**er. Isn't it time to start facing reality?

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Jul 20, 2021 11:40:41   #
JRiepe Loc: Southern Illinois
 
DukeTarHeel wrote:
Keep it simple, worst surge of the Delta variant are those that are the deepest red states.

True republicans are not the problem. The problem is the trump supporters who are willing, actually eager, to believe the BIG LIE.


What does believing what you call the BIG LIE have to do with refusing to get the v*****e? I don't see a connection.

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Jul 20, 2021 11:41:34   #
martinfisherphoto Loc: Lake Placid Florida
 
JRiepe wrote:
https://www.kff.org/c****av***s-c****-**/issue-brief/latest-data-on-c****-**-v******tions-race-ethnicity/

Well, well, well isn't this interesting. B****s and Hispanics are the most reluctant to get the v*****e and most of them are not Republicans. And I don't remember Trump letting hundreds of thousands cross our border during the p******c. Let's deal with facts here and stop blaming Republicans for every ill of this country.


You have to read the entire article..... The trend is white folks slowing down on v******tions while all other races increasing

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Jul 20, 2021 13:49:28   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
DukeTarHeel wrote:
Keep it simple, worst surge of the Delta variant are those that are the deepest red states.

True republicans are not the problem. The problem is the trump supporters who are willing, actually eager, to believe the BIG LIE.


That could be because the unv******ted and infected are crossing our Southern by the hundreds of thousand and they are coming from over 100 nations and many of those red states are in the South. Over 120,000 were intercepted last month, how many more made it thru undetected.

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Jul 20, 2021 16:09:41   #
DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"
 
JRiepe wrote:
What does believing what you call the BIG LIE have to do with refusing to get the v*****e? I don't see a connection.


The connection is, the vast amount of those not getting the v*****e are ardent trump supporters; people who believe the BIG LIE and people believe him. Some trump supporters have opined that the v*****e contains a microchip for government monitoring! The disinformation campaign is dangreous.

The point is, if trump had come out and clearly and demonstrably told his followers to get v******ted, the surge in the deep trump states would be far less. He didn't and so those refusing to get the v*****e are further endangering themselves. As of today 83% of the new C***d cases are the Delta variant and those people are unv******ted. It's really a leadership issue. People believe him, he and Melania got the v*****e before they left the White House - had he publicly endorsed it, fewer people would be so seriously ill right now.

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Jul 20, 2021 16:20:04   #
DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"
 
letmedance wrote:
That could be because the unv******ted and infected are crossing our Southern by the hundreds of thousand and they are coming from over 100 nations and many of those red states are in the South. Over 120,000 were intercepted last month, how many more made it thru undetected.


I agree, that is a noteworthy risk but that is not the main contributor to the surge currently occurring in the Midwest and southern states. Arizona and Arkansas have 44% fully v******ted. Alabama has 35%. The surges in those states may have a minor contribution by migrants but had the citizens taken the v*****e, statistics say they wouldn't be gravely ill. As I am sure you know, the Delta variant is especially contagious and virulent. In my opinion, not getting v******ted now is like playing Russian roulette. I understand some people have concerns about long term effects but, again in my opinion, that risk pales when compared to the risk of serious infection and illness by not being v******ted.

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