130° F in Death Valley
Jul 10, 2021 12:14:11 #
The temperature rose to 130° in Death Valley yesterday (but it's a dry heat). Death Valley holds the record of 134° from 1913, with Tunisia coming in second at 131° in 1931. A weather expert says that the record from 1931 is not possible meteorologically, and he doubts the veracity of the reading from Tunisia. Regardless how you look at it, that's hot. I wonder what the weather is like in Death Valley in the winter.
Google just told me that the temps are in the 60s and 70s, so no skiing.
Google just told me that the temps are in the 60s and 70s, so no skiing.
Jul 10, 2021 12:16:07 #
jerryc41 wrote:
The temperature rose to 130° in Death Valley yeste... (show quote)
Lake Havasu City holds the record for highest temp for a US City at 128 in 1994
Jul 10, 2021 12:26:05 #
alberio wrote:
Lake Havasu City holds the record for highest temp for a US City at 128 in 1994
Wow! A/C must literally be a lifesaver.
Jul 10, 2021 12:28:46 #
jerryc41 wrote:
Wow! A/C must literally be a lifesaver.
I tell everyone that we go to Phoenix in the summer to cool off. 😎
Jul 10, 2021 12:36:11 #
We were there in September several years ago shooting for a week and it wasn’t even close to being that hot. Can’t imagine what it would be like in all that heat.
Jul 10, 2021 12:49:48 #
gsmith051 wrote:
We were there in September several years ago shooting for a week and it wasn’t even close to being that hot. Can’t imagine what it would be like in all that heat.
September normally is when the Temps start to drop off. June, July, August are the bad ones. The record was set in June if I remember correctly.
Jul 10, 2021 13:01:10 #
gsmith051 wrote:
We were there in September several years ago shooting for a week and it wasn’t even close to being that hot. Can’t imagine what it would be like in all that heat.
Here’s a selfie I took of the temperature gauge in Palm Springs one day in June 2016. Late afternoon and the gauge was pegged out. When the wind blew it was like a blast furnace. If I remember correctly the temperature that day was 126*f. Death Valley isn’t the only hot spot in So-Cal.
Jul 10, 2021 13:12:34 #
pmorin wrote:
Here’s a selfie I took of the temperature gauge in Palm Springs one day in June 2016. Late afternoon and the gauge was pegged out. When the wind blew it was like a blast furnace. If I remember correctly the temperature that day was 126*f. Death Valley isn’t the only hot spot in So-Cal.
You're correct, but official temps are never taken in direct sun. I was in El Centro last year and saw one of these reading 118.
Jul 10, 2021 13:23:17 #
pmorin wrote:
Here’s a selfie I took of the temperature gauge in Palm Springs one day in June 2016. Late afternoon and the gauge was pegged out. When the wind blew it was like a blast furnace. If I remember correctly the temperature that day was 126*f. Death Valley isn’t the only hot spot in So-Cal.
126° with the thermometer baking in the sun, what was it in the shade?
Gets to 140° in my car with the sun beating on it in Florida.
Jul 10, 2021 15:21:06 #
Longshadow wrote:
126° with the thermometer baking in the sun, what was it in the shade?
Gets to 140° in my car with the sun beating on it in Florida.
Gets to 140° in my car with the sun beating on it in Florida.
I was mistaken. The high that day was 122*f. -see snapshot- .
Longshadow, your car is probably closed up, eh? Wouldn’t that just act like an oven?
And that thermometer, it gets late afternoon sunshine on it. It was pegged even when in shade.
Jul 10, 2021 15:34:14 #
pmorin wrote:
I was mistaken. The high that day was 122*f. -see snapshot- .
Longshadow, your car is probably closed up, eh? Wouldn’t that just act like an oven?
And that thermometer, it gets late afternoon sunshine on it. It was pegged even when in shade.
Longshadow, your car is probably closed up, eh? Wouldn’t that just act like an oven?
And that thermometer, it gets late afternoon sunshine on it. It was pegged even when in shade.
Point being, a thermometer in the sun or even a vented car are not accurate ways to measure temps. The second one being quite obvious.
Pegged in the shade> really hot. Could be higher from radiant heat from an overhang or a roof, or heat energy reflections from a deck.
I won't even consider a thermometer reading if the unit is in any sun.Jul 10, 2021 17:10:10 #
jerryc41 wrote:
The temperature rose to 130° in Death Valley yeste... (show quote)
A Geography Field School class I was in went to Death Valley in Feb once and a ranger showed us some footprints left on flat stone by a guy who ignored the "No Rubber Soled Shoes" warning notice. He said the darker stone could reach over 160°F+ in the sun and the air above didn't drop to below 150 until about 18-24" up if the wind wasn't blowing. He also said from experience those melted rubber foot prints would take several years to be scoured away by wind and blowing sand. Those "official" temps are done at 6' above ground in an open sided structure that have the thermometer in shade.
Those 60-70s are the high in the daytime, at night it can drop way down. In tents with sleeping bags and fully dressed we shivered our rears off.
The next weekend we went to a different part of the desert where the camp grounds allowed fires. The professor dug a hole about 8" deep, 3 feet wide and 7 feet long and built our fire in the hole. When it was about 11PM the fire had burned down to just coals. He used the shovel to spread them over the bottom of the 3x7 hole then shoveled all the sand back in on top of the coals and spread his military "arctic" sleeping bag on top and climbed in. When asked why he didn't tell all of us to do that he replied that we couldn't bring that much wood in our vehicles and besides seeing him do it was part of the teaching about doing Field Geography and Geology. I think he just had a "different" sense of humor.
Jul 10, 2021 17:34:08 #
I had a greenhouse at home in Massachusetts. One sunny February day (air temperature 30F) there was nothing in it so I closed the door and turned off the ventilation. Came back later and the thermometer I had inside was pinned at 135F. It was hot but I didn't stay in there long. The sun (~1KW/M**2) puts out a lot of energy.
Another time in the summer the air temperature was 103. It was sunny. The south facing wall of the greenhouse was polycarbonate plastic and was shiny. It got hot enough in front of the greenhouse to melt some of the plastic flats I used to grow plants (no plants in them). The flats had not melted in the greenhouse in February.
Another time in the summer the air temperature was 103. It was sunny. The south facing wall of the greenhouse was polycarbonate plastic and was shiny. It got hot enough in front of the greenhouse to melt some of the plastic flats I used to grow plants (no plants in them). The flats had not melted in the greenhouse in February.
Jul 11, 2021 00:55:12 #
robertjerl wrote:
A Geography Field School class I was in went to De... (show quote)
Death Valley, Lake Havasu and Palm Springs at 10:45 MDT
Jul 11, 2021 02:41:32 #
alberio wrote:
Death Valley, Lake Havasu and Palm Springs at 10:45 MDT
Heat warning! You think it was justified???
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