The more I thnik about it the more...
Jul 4, 2021 12:16:33 #
I respect chaos, not as a theory, but as a way of life.
When I look at what is going on at all levels, there is no rhyme nor reason. Traffic works because it is chaos. Crowds are chaos, life in general is chaos. We think we have control. We do not. We can make a deliberate gesture, take a decision, whatever. It will 'start a ball rolling' but... No one can predict where it will stop.
Action, reaction? It is a joke. It looks good when the balls are tied to controlling threads and give a satisfying, hypnotic click-click. In reality? click-click... It got away from you. The untethered ball you nudged bounces all over. Every effort to control it leads to more unpredictable results...
The result? Chaos, pure and simple. The funny part? It works out OK, most of the time.
When I look at what is going on at all levels, there is no rhyme nor reason. Traffic works because it is chaos. Crowds are chaos, life in general is chaos. We think we have control. We do not. We can make a deliberate gesture, take a decision, whatever. It will 'start a ball rolling' but... No one can predict where it will stop.
Action, reaction? It is a joke. It looks good when the balls are tied to controlling threads and give a satisfying, hypnotic click-click. In reality? click-click... It got away from you. The untethered ball you nudged bounces all over. Every effort to control it leads to more unpredictable results...
The result? Chaos, pure and simple. The funny part? It works out OK, most of the time.
Jul 4, 2021 12:50:11 #
Jul 4, 2021 14:22:19 #
MrBob wrote:
I think things work because we " Manage " chaos...
Well, we do not manage anything, especially chaos, as if one tries to 'manage' one creates another bump that is even less predictable.
Jul 4, 2021 17:42:57 #
Oh, I disagree.... the dogs ball bounces in the yard and we manage it going into the street with a fence; we manage traffic with traffic lights. We try to manage most everything to try and keep chaos under control. Sure MANAGEMENT causes it's own problems but what is the alternative, greater chaos ?
Jul 5, 2021 06:14:05 #
Rongnongno wrote:
I respect chaos, not as a theory, but as a way of life.
Chaos, pure and simple. The funny part? It works out OK, most of the time.
Chaos, pure and simple. The funny part? It works out OK, most of the time.
Much like my photography
Jul 5, 2021 07:31:41 #
Jul 5, 2021 07:56:20 #
I thought about this chaos thing all night and have come to the conclusion there is NO chaos at all.... The ball bounces because of the balls energy and things like angle of deflection etc.... Everything we know about this universe and prob. lots we don't know are governed by a set of imbedded rules such as Physics, chemistry, biology etc... Everything that happens is a reaction to these rules in play. Physics can explain every aspect of the bouncing ball by analyzing ALL the forces in play... NOTHING random. What did Einstein say about God and playing dice ?
Jul 5, 2021 07:57:43 #
Rongnongno wrote:
I respect chaos, not as a theory, but as a way of ... (show quote)
Every action elicits a reaction, another take on the butterfly theory.
Jul 5, 2021 08:28:23 #
Rongnongno wrote:
The funny part? It works out OK, most of the time.
And that's what counts.
Jul 5, 2021 08:40:51 #
Consider an empty ice skating rink. When folks start to enter and skate, they always go in a counterclockwise rotation. No one told them, but they do it (innately?); no leaders, no skate "cops".
Cities, left to their own "devices", organize themselves without city councils, zoning boards, etc. Grocery stores, service stations, and other service business arise according to need.
I'm in the middle of a fascinating book, "How Innovation Works: And Why It Flourishes in Freedom", by Matt Ridley. It very much explains how innovation, not invention, drives technology. It also provides a look backward at how society developed. Innovation, and division of labor drives it.
Cities, left to their own "devices", organize themselves without city councils, zoning boards, etc. Grocery stores, service stations, and other service business arise according to need.
I'm in the middle of a fascinating book, "How Innovation Works: And Why It Flourishes in Freedom", by Matt Ridley. It very much explains how innovation, not invention, drives technology. It also provides a look backward at how society developed. Innovation, and division of labor drives it.
Jul 5, 2021 09:19:29 #
Jul 5, 2021 10:26:59 #
bamfordr
Loc: Campbell CA
Rongnongno wrote:
Well, we do not manage anything, especially chaos, as if one tries to 'manage' one creates another bump that is even less predictable.
Perhaps there is a way to “manage”. A few thoughts.
There are a number of exercises that prove your process will enter an uncontrolled oscillation (your “less predictable bump”) if you strictly use the immediate past to determine future action. (Sold more last month, make more to sell.) You need to look at a longer term and differentiate between normal fluctuation and actual trends. You also have to plan for what might happen to prepare for changes that might affect you (Earthquake in Japan. Drought in California. Accept the inevitable. Risk management.) And you need to stay in touch with what is actually happening to figure out solutions for changes you didn’t think of (ask any carpenter or ostrich).
I once read that driving in traffic proves that people CAN read minds. Not sure I believe that, but you sure do learn to see subtle cues.
Jul 5, 2021 10:50:50 #
jaycoffman
Loc: San Diego
MrBob wrote:
I think things work because we " Manage " chaos...
Nice choice of words--we "manage" but don't "control" chaos. It helps to have a good sense of humor too.
Jul 5, 2021 13:44:38 #
Jul 5, 2021 15:30:12 #
paulrph1
Loc: Washington, Utah
pendennis wrote:
Consider an empty ice skating rink. When folks st... (show quote)
Thinking about your post. Being right handed it is just easier for me to turn left. But when I ski it is just easier for me to make the first turn to the right.
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