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Jun 21, 2021 15:31:35   #
RichKenn Loc: Merritt Island, FL
 
Someone asked not long ago something like, "How quickly does a rocket take off...?" Some responded, "Quickly." I didn't think so. I decided to see if I could quantify my feeling. So, I took a series of pictures of a recent SpaceX flight and looked at the times. I cropped the pictures considerably and pasted them together. Then I took a picture of the clock on my computer to calibrate the camera's clock. From the time the fire was lit until it rose half its length was 40 seconds! But, a few seconds later it traveled its length in one second. FYI, I shot with a D7200 with a Sigma 150-500 mm lens at 450 mm. The launch site is 17 miles away so haze is an added problem. It takes a minute and a half for the sound to reach me. Us old guys have to have some fun.

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Jun 21, 2021 15:33:38   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 

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Jun 21, 2021 15:42:14   #
UTMike Loc: South Jordan, UT
 
Good idea, well executed, Rich!

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Jun 21, 2021 15:59:09   #
RichKenn Loc: Merritt Island, FL
 
Thanks, guys.

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Jun 21, 2021 16:50:18   #
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All four feet of the ground at once !

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Jun 21, 2021 22:10:21   #
RichKenn Loc: Merritt Island, FL
 
User ID wrote:
All four feet of the ground at once !


Huh?

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Jun 22, 2021 07:07:47   #
DIRTY HARRY Loc: Hartland, Michigan
 
RichKenn wrote:
Someone asked not long ago something like, "How quickly does a rocket take off...?" Some responded, "Quickly." I didn't think so. I decided to see if I could quantify my feeling. So, I took a series of pictures of a recent SpaceX flight and looked at the times. I cropped the pictures considerably and pasted them together. Then I took a picture of the clock on my computer to calibrate the camera's clock. From the time the fire was lit until it rose half its length was 40 seconds! But, a few seconds later it traveled its length in one second. FYI, I shot with a D7200 with a Sigma 150-500 mm lens at 450 mm. The launch site is 17 miles away so haze is an added problem. It takes a minute and a half for the sound to reach me. Us old guys have to have some fun.
Someone asked not long ago something like, "H... (show quote)


It depends on the size and purpose of the rocket. A anti-aircraft/ missile rocket has a much highr thrust to weight ratio and accelerates much faster.

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Jun 22, 2021 11:49:43   #
Earnest Botello Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
Very well done, Rich.

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Jun 22, 2021 14:08:38   #
RichKenn Loc: Merritt Island, FL
 
DIRTY HARRY wrote:
It depends on the size and purpose of the rocket. A anti-aircraft/ missile rocket has a much highr thrust to weight ratio and accelerates much faster.

I am sure you are right. Thank goodness I have never seen an antimissile firing.

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Jun 22, 2021 14:09:17   #
neillaubenthal
 
RichKenn wrote:
Someone asked not long ago something like, "How quickly does a rocket take off...?" Some responded, "Quickly." I didn't think so. I decided to see if I could quantify my feeling. So, I took a series of pictures of a recent SpaceX flight and looked at the times. I cropped the pictures considerably and pasted them together. Then I took a picture of the clock on my computer to calibrate the camera's clock. From the time the fire was lit until it rose half its length was 40 seconds! But, a few seconds later it traveled its length in one second. FYI, I shot with a D7200 with a Sigma 150-500 mm lens at 450 mm. The launch site is 17 miles away so haze is an added problem. It takes a minute and a half for the sound to reach me. Us old guys have to have some fun.
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An excellent composite…but something is off with your time scale. I just looked at the replay of the GPS Falcon 9 launch the other day…right at T0 the engines lit..cleared the tower at T+6 seconds and was at 3KM altitude or about 10,000 or 11,000 feet at T+40 seconds. Hard to tell where the disconnect is but if you take a look at the EXIF data in Lightroom or whatever that will give you the time for each exposure.

Earlier reply on type of rocket is right. My submarine launched a SUBROC missile which goes horizontally out of the torpedo tube, ignites under water and Nike’s up to bout a 40 degree angle. Through the scope I could not really see the missile leave the water, just a very brief flash and smoke trail receding quickly. The ballistic missiles that a missile sub carries don’t ignite until out of the water and have 8 to 10 Gs of acceleration…so 1 second after ignition they are already going about 160 feet per second or about 110 mph and are about 2 or 3 missile lengths of about 30 feet high. The videos you’ve likely seen on TV or YouTube of them are considerably slowed down. Manned launches only leave the pad at 2 Gs or so to keep the crew from blacking out and max out at maybe 3.5 per so just before engine cutoff at orbital velocity.

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Jun 22, 2021 15:20:06   #
PhotogHobbyist Loc: Bradford, PA
 
As neillaubenthal mentioned, the EXIF data of the photos would provide the time of the photos for determining the time needed for liftoff. Also with passengers onboard the G-force has to be controlled to prevent black-out of the astronauts. However, as Dirty Harry wrote, the thrust of the rockets may vary depending on the size, purpose and payload of the rocket.

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Jun 22, 2021 16:40:23   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
RichKenn wrote:
Someone asked not long ago something like, "How quickly does a rocket take off...?" Some responded, "Quickly." I didn't think so. I decided to see if I could quantify my feeling. So, I took a series of pictures of a recent SpaceX flight and looked at the times. I cropped the pictures considerably and pasted them together. Then I took a picture of the clock on my computer to calibrate the camera's clock. From the time the fire was lit until it rose half its length was 40 seconds! But, a few seconds later it traveled its length in one second. FYI, I shot with a D7200 with a Sigma 150-500 mm lens at 450 mm. The launch site is 17 miles away so haze is an added problem. It takes a minute and a half for the sound to reach me. Us old guys have to have some fun.
Someone asked not long ago something like, "H... (show quote)


A cool, enlightening experiment 🏆✳️🏆

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Jun 24, 2021 22:00:09   #
RichKenn Loc: Merritt Island, FL
 
PhotogHobbyist wrote:
As neillaubenthal mentioned, the EXIF data of the photos would provide the time of the photos for determining the time needed for liftoff. Also with passengers onboard the G-force has to be controlled to prevent black-out of the astronauts. However, as Dirty Harry wrote, the thrust of the rockets may vary depending on the size, purpose and payload of the rocket.


The times listed on the photos are from the EXIF data. My camera clock is off so I took a picture of the clock on my computer and corrected each reading so I believe the quoted times are correct. The first time is just at ignition and that was the predicted time of launch. Catching the first glimmer of ignition was serendipitous.

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