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Jun 18, 2021 14:23:23   #
elliott937 Loc: St. Louis
 
Two of us are discussing this piece of software for ultra wide angle lenses, including 8mm.

If there is anyone else who has used this software, we'd appreciate hearing from you.


Bill

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Jun 18, 2021 14:42:45   #
rcarol
 
elliott937 wrote:
Two of us are discussing this piece of software for ultra wide angle lenses, including 8mm.

If there is anyone else who has used this software, we'd appreciate hearing from you.


Bill


If you have the latest versions of Photoshop and Lightroom, you already have the capability to convert semi-fisheye images to rectilinear images.

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Jun 18, 2021 14:54:53   #
elliott937 Loc: St. Louis
 
Having paid for PS since 2002, right up to PSCS6, I'm not using Affinity. Any ideas there?

Bill

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Jun 18, 2021 14:57:29   #
rcarol
 
elliott937 wrote:
Having paid for PS since 2002, right up to PSCS6, I'm not using Affinity. Any ideas there?

Bill


Can't help you with Affinity. Sorry.

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Jun 18, 2021 15:14:00   #
elliott937 Loc: St. Louis
 
Sorry, "not" = "now" using Affinity Photo. Sorry about my typo.

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Jun 19, 2021 05:49:44   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
I have it, use it and find it very valuable (I use it on full frame fisheye, not full circle fisheye). It does not convert images to rectilinear, but makes verticals straight. Horizontal lines remain bowed. In that way the image looks much less distorted, but the image does not lose much angle of view, as it would if converted to rectilinear as with PS.

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Jun 19, 2021 06:55:01   #
elliott937 Loc: St. Louis
 
I'm clearly a student here. Full Frame Fisheye, and not Circular Fisheye? I thought all fisheye would be circular. Tell me more please, and tell me the difference. Example, is your Fisheye 8mm?

Bill

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Jun 19, 2021 08:14:42   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
elliott937 wrote:
I'm clearly a student here. Full Frame Fisheye, and not Circular Fisheye? I thought all fisheye would be circular. Tell me more please, and tell me the difference. Example, is your Fisheye 8mm?

Bill


A full-frame fisheye does not have any black areas. The diagonal is 180 degrees, just at the edge of the image circle. For full frame, this is usually 15-16mm, depending on the type of projection (there are different types of fisheye projections). A "full circle“ fisheye gets the entire circular image circle into the frame, with the rest of the frame black. These are, generally speaking, 8mm.

For crop frame, full frame fisheyes are 7-10.5mm, depending on the projection. The only full circle fisheye I know of is the 4.5mm Sigma.

Fisheye projection types are equidistant, stereographic or orthographic, usually, with most all classic fisheyes being equidistant. Recently some near-stereographic fisheyes have been made (like the Samyang), and Nikon once made an orthographic fisheye. All cover 180 degrees, but they have different ways of achieving it. For stereographic, the size of objects in the center is smallest, with less squeezing of objects at the periphery. Orthographic has the most squeezed periphery, and equidistant is in the middle.

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Jun 19, 2021 08:35:45   #
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elliott937 wrote:
Sorry, "not" = "now" using Affinity Photo. Sorry about my typo.

rcarol contextualized your typo and read it as you originally intended. Thaz like almost psychic ability !

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Jun 19, 2021 09:06:31   #
elliott937 Loc: St. Louis
 
Where did you learn all of this? Next question, what specific lens are you using, for which it is a 'full frame fisheye', and not a 'full circle fisheye'? I don't know if this tells you anything, but I recently bought a Sigma 8mm Fisheye. Now that I'm learning that there are more forms of fisheye, I'm suspecting mine is full circle fisheye?

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Jun 19, 2021 09:33:40   #
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kymarto wrote:
A full-frame fisheye does not have any black areas. The diagonal is 180 degrees, just at the edge of the image circle. For full frame, this is usually 15-16mm, depending on the type of projection (there are different types of fisheye projections). A "full circle“ fisheye gets the entire circular image circle into the frame, with the rest of the frame black. These are, generally speaking, 8mm.

For crop frame, full frame fisheyes are 7-10.5mm, depending on the projection. The only full circle fisheye I know of is the 4.5mm Sigma.

Fisheye projection types are equidistant, stereographic or orthographic, usually, with most all classic fisheyes being equidistant. Recently some near-stereographic fisheyes have been made (like the Samyang), and Nikon once made an orthographic fisheye. All cover 180 degrees, but they have different ways of achieving it. For stereographic, the size of objects in the center is smallest, with less squeezing of objects at the periphery. Orthographic has the most squeezed periphery, and equidistant is in the middle.
A full-frame fisheye does not have any black areas... (show quote)

Altho I never had proper names for the differences, I’m probably the rare user who has actually noted such differences ... becuz I LIKE fisheyes, and so I have several. Seems most other users never have more than one (which they regret buying and never use).

TT Artisans 11/2.8 struck me as rather different before I ordered it, and proved to be different even in the first few test shots. 11mm is right between 8 and 15, yet it’s corner to corner on FF.

It’s really affordable but is kinda bulky compared to my typical 15 and 16mm, but the “distortion” is of a different type than most other fish. I recommend it to anyone who’s become “fisheye curious” on a budget. Or someone who is/was a fisheye user but has changed systems and not yet replaced their fish.

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Jun 19, 2021 09:45:33   #
elliott937 Loc: St. Louis
 
I am so impressed with your passion for fisheye. I have a question and a comment. First the comment: I just spent $790 on a Sigma 8mm fisheye, and as a retired teacher, that emptied my pocket very nicely. So a second fisheye can't be in my future anytime soon. Now my question: AS a teacher, I enjoy still teaching (part time college teacher here), and I enjoy learning more. I think Fisheye has opened a unique and fun door for me. It sounds like it has done the same thing for you. Can you and I continue to exchange email directly, rather than going through UHH? To show my earnest here is my personal email address: williamelliott937@gmail.com
Bill

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Jun 19, 2021 10:06:38   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
elliott937 wrote:
Two of us are discussing this piece of software for ultra wide angle lenses, including 8mm.

If there is anyone else who has used this software, we'd appreciate hearing from you.


Bill


By the title, I thought I was going to see a creative picture of a well known car engine! 😉

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Jun 19, 2021 11:10:10   #
elliott937 Loc: St. Louis
 
You made me smile about the play on Hemi engines. My 'name' has been played on as "Elliott", as in the race car driver. One of my students gave me a bumper sticker with: bill elliott: race car driver. Now I only have to put it on my rear bumper.

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Jun 19, 2021 11:30:33   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
elliott937 wrote:
You made me smile about the play on Hemi engines. My 'name' has been played on as "Elliott", as in the race car driver. One of my students gave me a bumper sticker with: bill elliott: race car driver. Now I only have to put it on my rear bumper.



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