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Jun 11, 2021 17:04:50   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 

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Jun 11, 2021 18:27:02   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
anotherview wrote:
The elevation of Mr. G****e F***d to an icon presents a travesty via false characterization of his life. Yes, Mr. Floyd died ignominiously while handcuffed with his face down in the street, a police officer pushing his knee to his neck. The police officer has been convicted for his part in the death of Mr. Floyd.

The criminal history of Mr. Floyd has not vanished. It remains public information which depicts him as a career criminal. The toxicology report of his bloodwork documents the various illicit drugs in his system at the time of his death.

A factual, rounded view of Mr. Floyd cannot support his status as an icon. His death has actually been used by social extremists more as a bludgeon to browbeat others while demanding various reforms.
The elevation of Mr. G****e F***d to an icon prese... (show quote)


I don't believe a lot of people have elevated Floyd to icon or hero or role model status as the far right likes to claim. Maybe he has become an icon in the sense of putting a face to police brutality. But I don't see the left as a whole making him a hero or role model. To me they have not made him someone to look up to.

That said, I know some do. I saw one of the many murals painted on walls...this one had angel wings behind his portrait and a halo over his head. Wishful thinking perhaps.

I don't see groups making him a hero though. Everyone knows about his drug and crime issues. He just did not deserve what he got...an ignoble death, face down on the pavement with three cops on top of him.

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Jun 11, 2021 18:41:04   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
mwalsh wrote:
I don't believe a lot of people have elevated Floyd to icon or hero or role model status as the far right likes to claim. Maybe he has become an icon in the sense of putting a face to police brutality. But I don't see the left as a whole making him a hero or role model. To me they have not made him someone to look up to.

That said, I know some do. I saw one of the many murals painted on walls...this one had angel wings behind his portrait and a halo over his head. Wishful thinking perhaps.

I don't see groups making him a hero though. Everyone knows about his drug and crime issues. He just did not deserve what he got...an ignoble death, face down on the pavement with three cops on top of him.
I don't believe a lot of people have elevated Floy... (show quote)


So you don't believe Biden going to the length of inviting his family to the white house was wrong? That is elevating them to celebrity status. There is always something in the way someone is brought up that has an effect on the person they have become. Off the subject but do you believe in the r********ns being talked about?

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Jun 11, 2021 19:00:11   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
scooter1 wrote:
So you don't believe Biden going to the length of inviting his family to the white house was wrong? That is elevating them to celebrity status. There is always something in the way someone is brought up that has an effect on the person they have become. Off the subject but do you believe in the r********ns being talked about?


The lunch invite seemed like cheesey cheap politics. Presidents have long invited controversial characters to the House for lunch. Were I POTUS, I would not have invited them to lunch...they have been paid well enough. They should have invited the Prez to their house!

I fully support r********ns.

All former s***e owners should pay all former s***es some yet to be determined amount...and all former s***es should pay all still dead yankee soldiers some yet to be determined amount.

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Jun 11, 2021 19:04:22   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
mwalsh wrote:
The lunch invite seemed like cheesey cheap politics. Presidents have long invited controversial characters to the House for lunch. Were I POTUS, I would not have invited them to lunch...they have been paid well enough. They should have invited the Prez to their house!

I fully support r********ns.

All former s***e owners should pay all former s***es some yet to be determined amount...and all former s***es should pay all still dead yankee soldiers some yet to be determined amount.
The lunch invite seemed like cheesey cheap politic... (show quote)


But there are no former s***es or s***e owners alive. Maybe being a little funny? If so I agree. His family has made millions so I guess that's the new way of the world we live in.

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Jun 11, 2021 19:14:38   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
scooter1 wrote:
But there are no former s***es or s***e owners alive.



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Jun 11, 2021 19:40:02   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
mwalsh wrote:



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Jun 11, 2021 20:47:57   #
FRENCHY Loc: Stone Mountain , Ga
 
DukeTarHeel wrote:
You post is well reasoned and correct on all points (I shouldn't have to say that but there is so much BS in The Attic that a valid, even handed post like yours is a breath of fresh air.)

G****e F***d is not a hero by any stretch of the imagination. The way he died epitomized the reason there is so much fear and anger black people have about the police. Ex-officer Chauvin has a long record of complaints against his conduct but he continued to be a cop. He and bullies like him, make policing difficult for the vast majority of good cops.

That people have profited from his death is a sad reflection on society. That his family was invited to lunch at the White House was nothing but a blatant effort to capitalize with the black community.
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Jun 11, 2021 23:03:11   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
FRENCHY wrote:
This tells us everything you wanted to know, and lots you didn’t, about what is dear to the lefties’ hearts.



From John McNulty... John McNulty (born May 29, 1968), is an American football coach. He is a former player and graduate of the Penn State University. McNulty returned to Rutgers, where he spent five seasons as an assistant coach and offensive coordinator from 2004 to 2008. The veteran coach also spent 15 seasons in the National Football League (NFL), coaching for six different teams.

He said recently: “I watched the Democratic leaders of Congress kneel in the halls of Congress for about 9 minutes, for the death of a black man named G****e F***d.

I have never seen them kneel for a fallen POLICE OFFICER.

I have never seen them kneel for a fallen AMERICAN SOLDIER.

I NEVER SAW THEM KNEEL FOR THE SOLDIERS THAT HILLARY & OBAMA LEFT TO DIE IN B******I!!

I have never seen them kneel for the thousands of (black & white) babies aborted EVERY DAY.

I have never seen them kneel for a murdered WHITE man or woman.

I have not seen them kneel for the thousands of BLACK-ON-BLACK murder victims.

I have not seen them kneel for the thousands of ELDERLY PEOPLE that died in nursing homes due to the C****a V***s. (Especially NEW YORK & MICHIGAN).

I have to ask: WHY are Democrats putting the LIFE OF G****E F***D as more valuable than the lives of everyone else?

In fact, Democrats have put so much value on the LIFE OF G****E F***D, they have allowed r**ting, l**ting, arson, murder, and BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF DESTRUCTION in communities Nationwide...

ASK YOURSELF - WHY NOW?"

The family (brothers and sister) of G****E F***D opened a Go Fund Me account to "help the family"? It has already raised $14,455,100.00 and still counting from donations as of June 22, 2020. Yes, almost 14.5 MILLION DOLLARS. This is for a guy who was arrested NINE times; was a convicted drug dealer (and at a drug deal the day he died); held a gun to the stomach of a pregnant lady while his five buddies robbed her home; did prison time three different times totaling about eight years, and obviously didn't learn from our penal system.

And now America is memorializing him by painting murals of the guy on the sides of buildings like he's a hero? Unbelievable!!

OBVIOUSLY, CRIME DOES PAY. To pour more salt on the wound, Rep. Pelosi (DEMOCRAT) presented G****E F***DS' brother with a folded American f**g after it had flown at half-mast over the Capitol in his honor in a beautiful tri-cornered presentation case.


John McNulty

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Jun 12, 2021 09:30:55   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Thank you for your kind comments re my post. Police reform could defuse some of the anger black folk experience when yet another black man eats police bullets and dies.

I believe the U.S. Congress has legislation in the works to produce a national registry or database recording all disciplinary actions involving a police officer. Police departments could consult this national listing to avoid hiring individuals whose record reflects police misconduct or serious violations on the job.

At the same time, suspects of any race or nationality or g****r who threaten the safety of the public or a police officer must face the protocol whereby the police may shoot to k**l the threatening individual, to enable the police to protect themselves and others. Careful reading of the reports of deadly encounters with the police reveals in almost every case that the suspect endangered others or the police.

In closing, I believe that the police officers who work in the field may need more training in how to handle suspects effectively yet while minimizing harm to the suspect. Nevertheless, the police go armed because they may have to resort to deadly force given the circumstance. We all know this necessity.
DukeTarHeel wrote:
You post is well reasoned and correct on all points (I shouldn't have to say that but there is so much BS in The Attic that a valid, even handed post like yours is a breath of fresh air.)

G****e F***d is not a hero by any stretch of the imagination. The way he died epitomized the reason there is so much fear and anger black people have about the police. Ex-officer Chauvin has a long record of complaints against his conduct but he continued to be a cop. He and bullies like him, make policing difficult for the vast majority of good cops.

That people have profited from his death is a sad reflection on society. That his family was invited to lunch at the White House was nothing but a blatant effort to capitalize with the black community.
You post is well reasoned and correct on all point... (show quote)

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Jun 12, 2021 09:49:35   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
anotherview wrote:
Thank you for your kind comments re my post. Police reform could defuse some of the anger black folk experience when yet another black man eats police bullets and dies.

I believe the U.S. Congress has legislation in the works to produce a national registry or database recording all disciplinary actions involving a police officer. Police departments could consult this national listing to avoid hiring individuals whose record reflects police misconduct or serious violations on the job.

At the same time, suspects of any race or nationality or g****r who threaten the safety of the public or a police officer must face the protocol whereby the police may shoot to k**l the threatening individual, to enable the police to protect themselves and others. Careful reading of the reports of deadly encounters with the police reveals in almost every case that the suspect endangered others or the police.

In closing, I believe that the police officers who work in the field may need more training in how to handle suspects effectively yet while minimizing harm to the suspect. Nevertheless, the police go armed because they may have to resort to deadly force given the circumstance. We all know this necessity.
Thank you for your kind comments re my post. Poli... (show quote)


Cooperate with the police no matter how wrong you think it is.
If you do not and are so stupid to resist because you are told to do so by other morons then you die from stupidity and that is called good evolution of removing the stupid genes.

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Jun 12, 2021 10:31:04   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
The individuals of whichever race or nationality or g****r who threaten the safety of a police officer or another expose themselves to the longstanding protocol that a police officer may shoot to k**l the threatening individual.

Evidently, the schools do not imprint this governing protocol on the consciousnesses of youngsters. As a result, youngsters and others never learn it, to their detriment.
Architect1776 wrote:
Cooperate with the police no matter how wrong you think it is.
If you do not and are so stupid to resist because you are told to do so by other morons then you die from stupidity and that is called good evolution of removing the stupid genes.

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Jun 12, 2021 10:49:01   #
Triple G
 
anotherview wrote:
The individuals of whichever race or nationality or g****r who threaten the safety of a police officer or another expose themselves to the longstanding protocol that a police officer may shoot to k**l the threatening individual.

Evidently, the schools do not imprint this governing protocol on the consciousnesses of youngsters. As a result, youngsters and others never learn it, to their detriment.


School’s responsibility or parents’?

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Jun 12, 2021 11:41:35   #
InfiniteISO Loc: The Carolinas, USA
 
G****e F***d played a large part in his own death. While the policeman may be ultimately responsible, he was not in the habit of over-powering random black men and suffocating them for sport. G****e F***d put himself in the crosshairs of the police. In the best circumstances, any interaction with, and especially being arrested by the police can be dangerous. He was a thug and met a thug's end.

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Jun 12, 2021 12:35:14   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Triple G wrote:
School’s responsibility or parents’?


BOTH!!!!!!!!!!!

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