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Jun 7, 2021 13:25:09   #
One Rude Dawg Loc: Athol, ID
 
newsguygeorge wrote:
Please tell me how this advances my interest in photography and what it has to do with photography. Frankly, if I wanted to waste my time on this kind of thing, I'd be on Facebook.


Don't look at the attic, it's your choice nobody is twisting your arm.

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Jun 7, 2021 13:39:20   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
newsguygeorge wrote:
Please tell me how this advances my interest in photography and what it has to do with photography. Frankly, if I wanted to waste my time on this kind of thing, I'd be on Facebook.


You are not a news guy George. You don't even understand how the news affects our very lives, liberty, and ability to continue our pursuits including photography.

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Jun 7, 2021 14:42:59   #
srt101fan
 
One Rude Dawg wrote:
Don't look at the attic, it's your choice nobody is twisting your arm.


You jump to conclusions (apparently not uncommon behavior for Attic residents). This thread was started in Main Photography section. It was then wisely moved to the Attic by Admin.

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Jun 7, 2021 15:33:38   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
pipesgt wrote:
I wonder if the great green brains have considered this:
Snow, Traffic Jams, and Electric Cars.
Can we show a little forethought and practicality? Please?

Has anyone thought about it?
If all cars were electric ... and were caught up in a three hour traffic jam... dead batteries! Then what?
Not to mention, that there is virtually no heating in an electric vehicle.
And if you get stuck on the road all night, no battery, no heating, no windshield wipers, no radio, no GPS (all these drain the battery) !!!
You can try calling 911 to bring women and children to safety!
But they cannot come to help you since all roads are blocked and the socialist green weenies will probably require all police cars to be electric also (if we still have police departments then) !!!
And when the roads become unblocked no one can move! Their batteries are dead and they cannot move.
How do you charge the thousands of cars in the traffic jam? (That is a business I think I’d like to look into. Drones to deliver heavy batteries and someone to remove and install.)
Same problem during summer vacation departures with miles of traffic jams.
There is virtually NO air conditioning in an electric vehicle. It would drain your battery quickly.
This will make cars run out of "fuel" and create never ending traffic jams, not to mention high tempers.
No socialist bent reporter talks about this of course!
You can’t even call in horses to rescue you. The Socialists are against horses and cows who defecate.
Wouldn’t it be easier to just get rid of the socialist politicians who are trying to help China’s economy?
I wonder if the great green brains have considered... (show quote)


And then there is this. All that electricity that is used to power those cars and charge those batteries is genered by f****l f**ls. So those electric cars don't reduce carbon. It can be described as a s**m

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Jun 7, 2021 17:56:24   #
captivecookie Loc: Washington state
 
It is frustrating hearing these problems, and then remembering there is a solution some people are trying to develop.

Memory issues disclaimers: I have no sources to link because this is a Memory only.

A couple years ago while waiting at a jiffy lube for my car to be serviced, I read an article about a team in Europe that was working on a new way to power electric cars. There was something in the road (so not usual pavement) that interacted with something in the car. When the car passed the road thing (his that for technical?), the car thing would interact, and that is what would developed the electricity. No gas or plug in necessary.

Has this been disappeared by people developing standard electric vehicles?

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Jun 7, 2021 18:35:58   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
pipesgt wrote:
I wonder if the great green brains have considered this:
Snow, Traffic Jams, and Electric Cars.
Can we show a little forethought and practicality? Please?

Has anyone thought about it?
If all cars were electric ... and were caught up in a three hour traffic jam... dead batteries! Then what?
Not to mention, that there is virtually no heating in an electric vehicle.
And if you get stuck on the road all night, no battery, no heating, no windshield wipers, no radio, no GPS (all these drain the battery) !!!
You can try calling 911 to bring women and children to safety!
But they cannot come to help you since all roads are blocked and the socialist green weenies will probably require all police cars to be electric also (if we still have police departments then) !!!
And when the roads become unblocked no one can move! Their batteries are dead and they cannot move.
How do you charge the thousands of cars in the traffic jam? (That is a business I think I’d like to look into. Drones to deliver heavy batteries and someone to remove and install.)
Same problem during summer vacation departures with miles of traffic jams.
There is virtually NO air conditioning in an electric vehicle. It would drain your battery quickly.
This will make cars run out of "fuel" and create never ending traffic jams, not to mention high tempers.
No socialist bent reporter talks about this of course!
You can’t even call in horses to rescue you. The Socialists are against horses and cows who defecate.
Wouldn’t it be easier to just get rid of the socialist politicians who are trying to help China’s economy?
I wonder if the great green brains have considered... (show quote)


Great questions

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Jun 7, 2021 19:25:49   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
pipesgt wrote:
I wonder if the great green brains have considered this:
Snow, Traffic Jams, and Electric Cars.
Can we show a little forethought and practicality? Please?

Has anyone thought about it?
If all cars were electric ... and were caught up in a three hour traffic jam... dead batteries! Then what?
Not to mention, that there is virtually no heating in an electric vehicle.
And if you get stuck on the road all night, no battery, no heating, no windshield wipers, no radio, no GPS (all these drain the battery) !!!
You can try calling 911 to bring women and children to safety!
But they cannot come to help you since all roads are blocked and the socialist green weenies will probably require all police cars to be electric also (if we still have police departments then) !!!
And when the roads become unblocked no one can move! Their batteries are dead and they cannot move.
How do you charge the thousands of cars in the traffic jam? (That is a business I think I’d like to look into. Drones to deliver heavy batteries and someone to remove and install.)
Same problem during summer vacation departures with miles of traffic jams.
There is virtually NO air conditioning in an electric vehicle. It would drain your battery quickly.
This will make cars run out of "fuel" and create never ending traffic jams, not to mention high tempers.
No socialist bent reporter talks about this of course!
You can’t even call in horses to rescue you. The Socialists are against horses and cows who defecate.
Wouldn’t it be easier to just get rid of the socialist politicians who are trying to help China’s economy?
I wonder if the great green brains have considered... (show quote)


Outside of the stupid USA political i***ts, hydrogen is becoming the green fuel for the rest of the world.
Great strides are being made in creating hydrogen in a full green way and it works from motor cycles to ships and planes.
Just the USA is still looking at i***t electric cars with batteries that totally destroy the environment from strip/pit mines to disposal.

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Jun 7, 2021 21:14:03   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
The all-electric car presents an alternative way to power a car. But its time has yet to come. The car has too many shortcomings. It cannot match the versatility of the gasoline-powered car.
neillaubenthal wrote:
Counterfactual? Political views aside…he does have a point. Yes, the Tesla has a heater so the people won’t freeze to death…but snow or ice events that shut down freeways for hours or until the middle of tomorrow are not an uncommon event…happens a lot in Nebraska, SD…and even on the Grapevine out in the People’s Republic of California. I can guarantee that with a highway full of Tesla cars out there will have a lot of dead batteries by mid day tomorrow…they run out of gas now and that lasts a lot longer than the battery will…and there aren’t any charging stations up the Grapevine or on I-80…or on trucks to go out and charge them up.

Electric vehicles are great for in city and uses like that…but for nobody that needs to go distances a hybrid is the only option outside of gas powered that makes sense…and liberals always ignore the fact that their carbon free Tesla runs on power from the wall socket that largely comes from fossil or nuclear fuel…and neither solar, wind, or battery tech will be there by time soon…not to mention that the t***smission grid to get power from where you can generate solar or wind in the broad expanse of the Midwest to where it is needed like big cities simply doesn’t exist…and would need more trillions to build and many years because you can’t run down to Home Depot and pick up substation parts or t***smission towers or line.
Counterfactual? Political views aside…he does hav... (show quote)

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Jun 7, 2021 21:25:54   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
boberic wrote:
And then there is this. All that electricity that is used to power those cars and charge those batteries is genered by f****l f**ls. So those electric cars don't reduce carbon. It can be described as a s**m


Not even close
60% fosil( that is mostly coal not oil )
20 % nuclear
20% renewable

And which do you think is going up and which is going down?

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Jun 7, 2021 23:21:27   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
DennyT wrote:
Not even close
60% fosil( that is mostly coal not oil )
20 % nuclear
20% renewable

And which do you think is going up and which is going down?


Make that. “ coal and natural gas”

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Jun 8, 2021 00:43:47   #
InfiniteISO Loc: The Carolinas, USA
 
captivecookie wrote:
It is frustrating hearing these problems, and then remembering there is a solution some people are trying to develop.

Memory issues disclaimers: I have no sources to link because this is a Memory only.

A couple years ago while waiting at a jiffy lube for my car to be serviced, I read an article about a team in Europe that was working on a new way to power electric cars. There was something in the road (so not usual pavement) that interacted with something in the car. When the car passed the road thing (his that for technical?), the car thing would interact, and that is what would developed the electricity. No gas or plug in necessary.

Has this been disappeared by people developing standard electric vehicles?
It is frustrating hearing these problems, and then... (show quote)


It's inductive c**pling. Contactless cell phone chargers use it, some electric toothbrushes, etc. I know a bit about this technology but I've never seen it used on a moving device. I'm sure you could make it work for a slot car track but anything bigger...

The lowly Nissan Leaf has a 150 horsepower motor to provide the motive force. The chassis is about 9 inches off of the pavement meaning the field would have to be exceptionally strong. Imagine the power necessary to move a few thousand Leafs down an interstate. The power would have to flow regardless of any traffic being present. Snow and Rain would dampen power t***sfer. To put the system in place you'd have to tear up a bunch of road and the cars would still have to have their own batteries and have a charge to get them to roads with the system. I think waiting for Star Trek-type t***sporter technology would be an easier solution.

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Jun 8, 2021 01:24:48   #
captivecookie Loc: Washington state
 
InfiniteISO wrote:
It's inductive c**pling. Contactless cell phone chargers use it, some electric toothbrushes, etc. I know a bit about this technology but I've never seen it used on a moving device. I'm sure you could make it work for a slot car track but anything bigger...

The lowly Nissan Leaf has a 150 horsepower motor to provide the motive force. The chassis is about 9 inches off of the pavement meaning the field would have to be exceptionally strong. Imagine the power necessary to move a few thousand Leafs down an interstate. The power would have to flow regardless of any traffic being present. Snow and Rain would dampen power t***sfer. To put the system in place you'd have to tear up a bunch of road and the cars would still have to have their own batteries and have a charge to get them to roads with the system. I think waiting for Star Trek-type t***sporter technology would be an easier solution.
It's inductive c**pling. Contactless cell phone ... (show quote)


Rats!

Hmmm...

What if the tech was in the tires?

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Jun 8, 2021 06:15:58   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
anotherview wrote:
The all-electric car presents an alternative way to power a car. But its time has yet to come. The car has too many shortcomings. It cannot match the versatility of the gasoline-powered car.


The rest of the world is going hydrogen.

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Jun 8, 2021 09:36:45   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Architect1776 wrote:
The rest of the world is going hydrogen.


They may indeed have a future but they are not close to the level of EV’s yet.

If solid state batteries become a reality that is probably the future .

https://www.motortrend.com/news/technologue-solid-state-battery-frank-markus/


It is inconceivable that technology will not advance in the EV area just like it has in every other technology in history.
The naysayers of the EV bare basing there sure prediction on the assumption of no further EV/battery advances

In the meantime other countries are courting that advancement.

In congress is a bill to spur technological advancement and develop new technologies to help America regain its edge.


https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/1260

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Jun 8, 2021 11:10:45   #
InfiniteISO Loc: The Carolinas, USA
 
Architect1776 wrote:
The rest of the world is going hydrogen.


Liquefied natural gas and even compressed are options

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