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Jun 6, 2021 13:12:33   #
dmeyer Loc: Marion, NC
 
Longshadow wrote:
I understand.

One time up in Maine in the Fall we drove back roads to a place for dinner. Didn't take my camera.
We passed over a colorful tree-lined stretch of road with wet leaves all over the road. I really liked the scene.
Went back the next day, all the leaves were minced by car tires and washed off the road from the rain.
C'est la vie.



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Jun 6, 2021 13:15:03   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
dmeyer wrote:
This post may seem like musings, but is meant to ask some of you what you would do differently/better if circumstances (not equipment) allowed. I am wondering how many folks in the photo community would stretch their skills if they had more opportunity to do photography-specific trips as opposed to recreational travel? Yes, there are pro-photographer led workshops as well as photo clubs in more populated cities, but the workshops can be cost prohibitive in exchange for time and coverage provided, and clubs seem to be pretty scattered out and limited to regional subject matter.
Being drawn to landscapes and nature, I was blessed when I found another soul who shared the same enthusiasm for discovery and desire to explore way beyond his home territory. What made it a perfect photography union was that our spouses had no patience with travel that evolved into long photo sessions. So, with mutual respect for each other’s talents and skill…and with neither trying to be the teacher, but both being open to experimenting with new shooting situations by setting goals…we made 9 trips across the SW, the PNW, the Rockies, and even waterfall country here in NC. Three big “C’s” (Construction, Cancer, and Covid) brought the trips to a halt in 2018, with one last trip this September left to experience. My buddy’s health makes it hard to plan too far in the future these days.
For me, images seen through a lens have always been imbedded in memory far more lastingly than when casually glimpsed through the window of a moving vehicle. And the desire to preserve those images as clearly and beautifully as possible motivated me to grow my photographic skill set. Am I an anomaly for sometimes wanting to create a portfolio of beautiful imagery over always sharing experiences with my spouse?
So, I wonder…how many would choose to partner up for travel dedicated to capturing the scenery over recreational travel with a spouse where photography is merely an adjunct? Can we only justify travel solely for photography if we are ‘professionals’ making a living at it?
(P.S. All of the above is directed at the mature segment of this community who would not travel solo. There are probably a great many brave young folks who can live out of a car/and or tent in pursuit of adventure and never worry about accidents in remote locations.)
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Jun 6, 2021 13:20:41   #
dmeyer Loc: Marion, NC
 
[quote=jaycoffman]I understand. While I have met women on motorcycles riding along they are very few and far between and very independent even when married. There are any number of reasons why it can be more difficult to women to travel alone alone. But on tours (we use Overseas Adventure Travel) there are often women traveling along with their husband's blessing because the group setting always has others to rely on. One of our friends when to Africa with us and her husband was pretty OK with that. It was a fantastic trip and she really fulfilled her interest in travel in a relatively safe way.

I am ready to start considering groups, but I just wonder how regimented/flexible the schedules are. It is hard for me to sit back and be a passenger, I am so used to carefully planning my itineraries. But I reckon the guides have a lot more insight than I would. When a group arrive at a site all together, is it not hard to find compositions without blocking/or being blocked by someone else?

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Jun 6, 2021 13:22:00   #
dmeyer Loc: Marion, NC
 
ronpier wrote:
It can be a lot of work and a PITA. And I have amazing images (within limits) from my pocket camera that I have found to be quite satisfactory and did not detract from the vacation experience.


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Jun 6, 2021 13:25:15   #
dmeyer Loc: Marion, NC
 
Gene51 wrote:
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I can see that you have an expansive field of interest when it comes to photography subjects. No wonder you can give such good counsel on so many shooting topics.

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Jun 6, 2021 13:35:33   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
[quote=dmeyer]
jaycoffman wrote:
I understand. While I have met women on motorcycles riding along they are very few and far between and very independent even when married. There are any number of reasons why it can be more difficult to women to travel alone alone. But on tours (we use Overseas Adventure Travel) there are often women traveling along with their husband's blessing because the group setting always has others to rely on. One of our friends when to Africa with us and her husband was pretty OK with that. It was a fantastic trip and she really fulfilled her interest in travel in a relatively safe way.

I am ready to start considering groups, but I just wonder how regimented/flexible the schedules are. It is hard for me to sit back and be a passenger, I am so used to carefully planning my itineraries. But I reckon the guides have a lot more insight than I would. When a group arrive at a site all together, is it not hard to find compositions without blocking/or being blocked by someone else?
I understand. While I have met women on motorcycle... (show quote)


It could probably work out well for you if you choose carefully and ask lots of questions ahead of time to be sure it's a good fit. I've only dared to do one such thing, because I balk terribly against being herded about or told how to photograph something. It turned out well because the leaders were not overbearing, and after a few minutes' of explanation at each site, let us loose to explore afoot for liberal amounts of time. If there was something I didn't care to shoot, I skipped that site and went off on my own for that interval. I've learned from others that all photo tours are not like that, and that some are more "contained" or hurried than others.

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Jun 6, 2021 13:46:44   #
hrblaine
 
[quote=dmeyer]

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FOR me, photography is not my main interest which are bird dog and spaniel field trials (two different venues). I started in bird dog trials shortly after I graduated from law school in the early '60s; spaniels about 10 or 12 years ago. I started with photography in the '70s, shooting dance at Ohio State where my wife was Dance Dept. Chairperson. I stopped shooting dance when I retired in 1988 and left Columbus. I still shoot, dogs and landscapes mainly, maybe a few portraits here and there. (or at least shots of people, not sure they're "portraits" <g>) Harry

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Jun 6, 2021 15:45:51   #
profbowman Loc: Harrisonburg, VA, USA
 
Hip Coyote wrote:
But to photograph with a special friend? think of it as a fishing trip...its not the fish...its the time together...the rest is secondary.


Hip Coyote said it well. It is not the activity; it is the time together with my friend (my wife). I love the challenge of composing a landscape/long shot and the excitement of seeing something up close that I do not normally see that way in a close-up shot. But taking a trip; conversing on the way there and back; walking together into a store, a beach, a mountain scene, a friend's house, or sitting on a park bench, a big rock, or a couch in a hotel room reading, that is life at its best. --Richard

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Jun 6, 2021 17:01:02   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Longshadow wrote:
I take trips to see things, and take photos while I'm there.



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Jun 6, 2021 17:29:09   #
photoman022 Loc: Manchester CT USA
 
Two of my favorite times in my life were my coast to coast trips (the first with my wife, the second alone). The goal was to stay off of the interstate as much as possible, limit my travel to about 300 miles a day, and take photos that I found interesting. Did I travel for photography or was photography incidental to the trip? Yes! If you only travel by the interstate, would you ever see Chivington, Colorado, which is a few miles from the Sand Creek Massacre Historical Site? Do a web search on both and see how they relate.

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Jun 6, 2021 17:34:03   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
photoman022 wrote:
Two of my favorite times in my life were my coast to coast trips (the first with my wife, the second alone). The goal was to stay off of the interstate as much as possible, limit my travel to about 300 miles a day, and take photos that I found interesting. Did I travel for photography or was photography incidental to the trip? Yes! If you only travel by the interstate, would you ever see Chivington, Colorado, which is a few miles from the Sand Creek Massacre Historical Site? Do a web search on both and see how they relate.
Two of my favorite times in my life were my coast ... (show quote)

50/50 to experience/photograph?

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Jun 6, 2021 19:39:07   #
Robg
 
My partner and I are both travel oriented but I have far more interest in photography than she. In fact, she refers to me as "her photographer". So there's never been any kind of conflict or differences of opinion about where to go or how much time to spend. So for me the choice is non sequitur.

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Jun 6, 2021 22:26:26   #
Jack 13088 Loc: Central NY
 
For me travel is a compulsion to which photography is an important adjunct. I seem to have a need of travel to places I have not experienced before. I shoot photos with the intent of capturing memorable images. I I try to carefully compose and expose all images and hope to improve with every click but that isn’t the point.

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Jun 6, 2021 22:26:28   #
Jack 13088 Loc: Central NY
 
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Jun 7, 2021 03:09:48   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
dmeyer wrote:
This post may seem like musings, but is meant to ask some of you what you would do differently/better if circumstances (not equipment) allowed. I am wondering how many folks in the photo community would stretch their skills if they had more opportunity to do photography-specific trips as opposed to recreational travel? Yes, there are pro-photographer led workshops as well as photo clubs in more populated cities, but the workshops can be cost prohibitive in exchange for time and coverage provided, and clubs seem to be pretty scattered out and limited to regional subject matter.
Being drawn to landscapes and nature, I was blessed when I found another soul who shared the same enthusiasm for discovery and desire to explore way beyond his home territory. What made it a perfect photography union was that our spouses had no patience with travel that evolved into long photo sessions. So, with mutual respect for each other’s talents and skill…and with neither trying to be the teacher, but both being open to experimenting with new shooting situations by setting goals…we made 9 trips across the SW, the PNW, the Rockies, and even waterfall country here in NC. Three big “C’s” (Construction, Cancer, and Covid) brought the trips to a halt in 2018, with one last trip this September left to experience. My buddy’s health makes it hard to plan too far in the future these days.
For me, images seen through a lens have always been imbedded in memory far more lastingly than when casually glimpsed through the window of a moving vehicle. And the desire to preserve those images as clearly and beautifully as possible motivated me to grow my photographic skill set. Am I an anomaly for sometimes wanting to create a portfolio of beautiful imagery over always sharing experiences with my spouse?
So, I wonder…how many would choose to partner up for travel dedicated to capturing the scenery over recreational travel with a spouse where photography is merely an adjunct? Can we only justify travel solely for photography if we are ‘professionals’ making a living at it?
(P.S. All of the above is directed at the mature segment of this community who would not travel solo. There are probably a great many brave young folks who can live out of a car/and or tent in pursuit of adventure and never worry about accidents in remote locations.)
This post may seem like musings, but is meant to a... (show quote)


There are things that are shared with our spouse and then there are things that our spouse does not want to be with us to share. It really is that simple. I always want to share my excitement of photography with my wife. And she loves my being excited. But that does not mean that she is always excited about what I am excited about. There are things I share with my best friend that he and I care about. But our wives could care less about some of those things and actually expect us to leave them out of those discussions.

My wife loves my photography. And she is a terrific editor. She used most of my travel shots for her travel website. She likes to shoot some of her own shots - with her high pixel smartphone (I "pushed" her to buy the highest pixels knowing her needs from editing).

And if my wife ever takes a true interest in photography, I will be in serious trouble. Not only is she a terrific editor, her natural talent as a photographer is very good. If she really would start working on her photography, instead of using mostly my photos, it would probably become rare for me to be able to touch my gear again.

But the fact she enjoys seeing my photography, and compromises by giving a little more time for me to photograph when she wants go on, is enough for me.

I have been in clubs and gone to workshops. It is always nice to be able to share a common love and interest with other people. And if one is lucky enough to find a fellow photographer to share that common love and interest on a more personal level, consider yourself lucky.

So enjoy the fact that there are people that enjoy you for your different aspects. And one of those people shares your love of photography. Not everyone will get that honor in their lifetime.

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