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Jun 3, 2021 17:01:45   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
No artist ever sees things only as the camera would. If he did, he would cease to be an artist.

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Jun 3, 2021 17:02:21   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
BebuLamar wrote:
With Linda's post about most people didn't think about post processing done in the film era I have a thought. Although I don't see it lately but I used to see posts complaining about shooting digital you have to sit down on your computer and do the PP while in the film days you can just send off your film and get your prints back in a week or so. I thought of a service to do just that. You shoot the raw files on your memory card. Send it to us then we will pp the raw files the best way we think (remember we think not you think just like the film days) and then print them and send them back to you.
With Linda's post about most people didn't think a... (show quote)


You'd probably get a bunch of takers...

Is the tag line "You take the pictures, we do the rest." available?????

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Jun 3, 2021 17:10:23   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Longshadow wrote:
Is the tag line "You take the pictures, we do the rest." available?????

"You Press the Button, We Do the Rest" - George Eastman

A bit of irony within this Wiki quote: "Eastman believed in making photography available to the world, and making it possible for anyone who had the desire to take great pictures."

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Jun 3, 2021 17:20:19   #
frankie c Loc: Lake Havasu CIty, AZ
 
FRAV wrote:
When I first started photography as a hobby, the rules for exhibitions were simple - The photo I entered was a picture that was not altered in any fashion. Today with the software available it is possible to "adjust" or enhance any or all of the original exposure. The sky can be changed from clear, blue daylight to a dark and stormy evening.
Items can be added and or subtracted etc etc.
What are the standards for entering a photo in a contest / exhibition when it is not explicitly stated? Are there ethics that govern what we do - or has photography turned into a new art form where anything goes as long as it is pleasing or interesting?
Just something I have been wrestling with and would like some thoughts.
When I first started photography as a hobby, the r... (show quote)


I love this topic, It brings out so much feeling and actually incorporates some thought.
That said, from art school 101:
Art is what is pleasing to the eye.
Photography literal definition, Light Writing.
So I guess Photography as Art would be using light to create something which is pleasing to the eye.
The gear and the materials and method's are the tools you use to create Photo Art.
Right out of camera (ROOC) is a figment to your imagination.
The tools the process, and variability in the former and the latter, is your end result.
Art or not is subjective. So maybe.
Anyway, Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain (LOL) have a nice day :)

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Jun 3, 2021 17:32:25   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
"You Press the Button, We Do the Rest" - George Eastman

A bit of irony within this Wiki quote: "Eastman believed in making photography available to the world, and making it possible for anyone who had the desire to take great pictures."

THAT's it, I couldn't remember the exact words.

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Jun 3, 2021 17:33:28   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
frankie c wrote:
I love this topic, It brings out so much feeling and actually incorporates some thought.
That said, from art school 101:
Art is what is pleasing to the eye.
Photography literal definition, Light Writing.
So I guess Photography as Art would be using light to create something which is pleasing to the eye.
The gear and the materials and method's are the tools you use to create Photo Art.
Right out of camera (ROOC) is a figment to your imagination.
The tools the process, and variability in the former and the latter, is your end result.
Art or not is subjective. So maybe.
Anyway, Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain (LOL) have a nice day :)
I love this topic, It brings out so much feeling a... (show quote)


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Jun 3, 2021 17:36:09   #
srt101fan
 
A photograph is an initially latent visual image commonly produced in a camera. Through human and/or automated manipulation it is converted to a visible image. It can morph into limitless derivatives that may be close to the original or unrecognizably detached from it.

At what stage of this morphing does the photograph cease to be a photograph? Who knows. Should we care?.....

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Jun 3, 2021 18:08:30   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
srt101fan wrote:
...At what stage of this morphing does the photograph cease to be a photograph? Who knows. Should we care?.....
Despite my participation in this thread, those questions don't make my Top 20 List of Life's Mysteries that Need to be Solved Before I Die

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Jun 3, 2021 18:09:16   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Despite my participation in this thread, the question doesn't make my Top 20 List of Life Mysteries that Need to be Solved before I Die


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Jun 3, 2021 18:27:43   #
BebuLamar
 
Longshadow wrote:
THAT's it, I couldn't remember the exact words.


But that line belongs to George so I don't think I can use it. But let me think of something. Your suggestion is good. I think I use "You capture, we render".

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Jun 3, 2021 18:32:16   #
srt101fan
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Despite my participation in this thread, those questions don't make my Top 20 List of Life's Mysteries that Need to be Solved Before I Die


I don't think it makes it into my list at all!

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Jun 3, 2021 18:59:23   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
BebuLamar wrote:
But that line belongs to George so I don't think I can use it. But let me think of something. Your suggestion is good. I think I use "You capture, we render".

That works!

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Jun 3, 2021 20:04:03   #
frankie c Loc: Lake Havasu CIty, AZ
 
Longshadow wrote:
THAT's it, I couldn't remember the exact words.


Close enough. I worked at Eastman Kodak 38 years. I am sure George is happy you remembered.
thank you I really enjoyed my visit to your site. I will be going back there often :)

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Jun 3, 2021 20:18:03   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
frankie c wrote:
Close enough. I worked at Eastman Kodak 38 years. I am sure George is happy you remembered.
thank you I really enjoyed my visit to your site. I will be going back there often :)




Thanks for letting me know you stopped by and I'm glad you enjoyed your visit.
Updates are sporadic, as you can see.
I usually try to change my FB cover (banner) image weekly though.

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Jun 3, 2021 20:50:35   #
Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC
 
"What is photography?"

FRAV in my minds eye it is a "Craft" by which those who have mastered same i.e. at the zenith generate enough revenue to support themselves...

Nikon use to require that over half of one's revenue stream come from their photographic endeavors to qualify Nikon Professional Services Membership... Times are hard now, it's a tiered membership model... it's a pay as you go scenario... Sadly the ASMP has adopted a similar paradigm albeit it's still by invitation only...

"Are there ethics that govern what we do - or has photography turned into a new art form where anything goes as long as it is pleasing or interesting?" FRAV "beauty is in the eyes of the checkbook holder" (Dean Collins)

As for ethics? You might invest some time in the [Nude Photography, Boudoir Photography, NSFW, Discussions and Pictures] forum and ask yourself if it is "Ethical" to portray females as merely sex objects rather than as a subject of "Fine Art"? Your answer lays within your own ethos... https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-27-1.html

There is a tenuous gray area between "Fine Art" and Pornography... Are you able to discern the difference FRAV?

Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart's infamous statement... "I know it when I see it." in his concurring opinion on Jacobellis v. Ohio,' a pornography case decided by the Court in 1964. This seminal statement is one of the most famous phrases in the entire history of Supreme Court.

FRAV do the promptings that come within after viewing the "Art" or other "Posts" in the [Nude Photography, Boudoir Photography, NSFW, Discussions and Pictures] ring true to your current grasp of "Ethics"... Who draws the line? Who reading this post has the right or privilege to sit in judgment of their peers?

No FRAV there are not boundaries on art... only what the viewers sees through the lens of their life experiences...
Paradox? Maybe... but in the end of the day.... Money talks... those who claim otherwise? Oh well...

All the best on your epic journey FRAV... and it is indeed the journey that matters not so much the destination...

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