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Jun 6, 2021 15:35:18   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
lbrande wrote:
I'd really prefer an AR10


The ar 15 is more for varmints. Are you thinking the AR10 in 308?

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Jun 6, 2021 17:23:12   #
lbrande
 
scooter1 wrote:
The ar 15 is more for varmints. Are you thinking the AR10 in 308?


Yup.

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Jun 6, 2021 18:31:07   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
lbrande wrote:
Yup.


Nice hunting rifle and caliber.

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Jun 6, 2021 23:24:11   #
lbrande
 
scooter1 wrote:
Nice hunting rifle and caliber.



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Jun 7, 2021 07:42:08   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
dlwhawaii wrote:
Cool. An AR15 for hunting critters.


An AR15 works well for k*****g woodchucks who dig holes everywhere.

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Jun 7, 2021 14:37:54   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
berchman wrote:
An AR15 works well for k*****g woodchucks who dig holes everywhere.


We used to shoot ground hogs on canal banks. They dug holes all over the bank so it would weaken and flood fields. This was while I was in high school. We earned 10 cents for every one we took to the farmers.

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Jun 10, 2021 13:24:30   #
btbg
 
IDguy wrote:
Democrats also drive autos contributing to over 30,000 deaths and hundreds of thousands casualties each year. Not sure if we should call for a ban on autos or Democrats...

Several retailers here offer guns with purchases in the fall, especially auto dealers.

Unfortunately the gun offer for v******tions is probably going after the wrong audience of v*****e deniers.


I think they are going after exactly the right audience. If you want to convince Conservatives to get a v*****e give them an incentive that they understand. Nearly 50 percent of Republicans say they are not going to get the v*****e compared to a very small percentage of Democrats.

Since the goal of the v*****e proponents is to hit a 70 percent v******tion rate they need to get some of those Republicans to get a v*****e. Perhaps an offer of a chance to get a new gun for free is an incentive that might work.

It's certainly a better use of state resources than what Newsom is doing in California. He is spending 116.5 million on v******tion incentives for a state that has a population of approximately 40 million. That means that he could offer everyone who gets a shot $1,000,000, save the government nearly 76 million and virtually everyone would rapidly agree to get v******ted.

Sounds like West Virginia's attempt is a much cheaper effort to get holdouts v******ted. What does it hurt to try.

https://www.gov.ca.gov/2021/05/27/governor-newsom-announces-historic-vax-for-the-win-program-to-get-more-californians-v******ted-by-june-15/

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Jun 10, 2021 13:33:18   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
btbg wrote:
I think they are going after exactly the right audience. If you want to convince Conservatives to get a v*****e give them an incentive that they understand. Nearly 50 percent of Republicans say they are not going to get the v*****e compared to a very small percentage of Democrats.

Since the goal of the v*****e proponents is to hit a 70 percent v******tion rate they need to get some of those Republicans to get a v*****e. Perhaps an offer of a chance to get a new gun for free is an incentive that might work.

It's certainly a better use of state resources than what Newsom is doing in California. He is spending 116.5 million on v******tion incentives for a state that has a population of approximately 40 million. That means that he could offer everyone who gets a shot $1,000,000, save the government nearly 76 million and virtually everyone would rapidly agree to get v******ted.

Sounds like West Virginia's attempt is a much cheaper effort to get holdouts v******ted. What does it hurt to try.

https://www.gov.ca.gov/2021/05/27/governor-newsom-announces-historic-vax-for-the-win-program-to-get-more-californians-v******ted-by-june-15/
I think they are going after exactly the right aud... (show quote)


I think your math is wrong.

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Jun 10, 2021 13:54:58   #
Leo_B Loc: Houston suburb
 
btbg wrote:
I think they are going after exactly the right audience. If you want to convince Conservatives to get a v*****e give them an incentive that they understand. Nearly 50 percent of Republicans say they are not going to get the v*****e compared to a very small percentage of Democrats.

Since the goal of the v*****e proponents is to hit a 70 percent v******tion rate they need to get some of those Republicans to get a v*****e. Perhaps an offer of a chance to get a new gun for free is an incentive that might work.

It's certainly a better use of state resources than what Newsom is doing in California. He is spending 116.5 million on v******tion incentives for a state that has a population of approximately 40 million. That means that he could offer everyone who gets a shot $1,000,000, save the government nearly 76 million and virtually everyone would rapidly agree to get v******ted.

Sounds like West Virginia's attempt is a much cheaper effort to get holdouts v******ted. What does it hurt to try.

https://www.gov.ca.gov/2021/05/27/governor-newsom-announces-historic-vax-for-the-win-program-to-get-more-californians-v******ted-by-june-15/
I think they are going after exactly the right aud... (show quote)


Actually he could give everyone $2 and save $36 million. Or go big and give everyone $3 and only have to spend $3.5 million more.

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Jun 11, 2021 14:33:42   #
btbg
 
letmedance wrote:
I think your math is wrong.


My bad, don't know where I got 116.5 million instead of 16.5 million. You are correct.

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Jun 12, 2021 13:28:07   #
btbg
 
letmedance wrote:
I think your math is wrong.


By the way, even though I was using the wrong numbers in my math, the point is still valid. They could give $400,000 to each person who was v******ted and still spend less money than they are spending. And, don't you think that people would rush out to get v******ted even if it was just $250,000?

So, the question still stands, where are they wasting the rest of the money? It is obvious that Newsom is just throwing money around in an effort to buy off people that otherwise might have v**ed to recall him.

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Jun 12, 2021 13:36:16   #
Leo_B Loc: Houston suburb
 
btbg wrote:
By the way, even though I was using the wrong numbers in my math, the point is still valid. They could give $400,000 to each person who was v******ted and still spend less money than they are spending. And, don't you think that people would rush out to get v******ted even if it was just $250,000?

So, the question still stands, where are they wasting the rest of the money? It is obvious that Newsom is just throwing money around in an effort to buy off people that otherwise might have v**ed to recall him.
By the way, even though I was using the wrong numb... (show quote)


At $400k per person that is 2.5 people per million dollars, 25 people for $10 million dollars or 250 people for $100 million dollars. Is this the new math under Common Core or am I just not seeing something.

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Jun 12, 2021 15:52:30   #
btbg
 
Leo_B wrote:
At $400k per person that is 2.5 people per million dollars, 25 people for $10 million dollars or 250 people for $100 million dollars. Is this the new math under Common Core or am I just not seeing something.


I worked late last night. Obviously I am math challenged when tired. My apologies.

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