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Jun 2, 2021 13:31:09   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
DennyT wrote:
Dennis


Yeah it was announced long after the fact !


Not to me.

Maybe you need to pay attention. I wonder if there is anything at all Trump did you can approve of. While his bedside manner needed improvement in my opinion he did many things good for America.

Can you provide even one or are you so stuck on hatred of Trump you cannot come up with even one thing he did positive for us?

Dennis

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Jun 2, 2021 14:08:10   #
skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA
 
Frank T wrote:
No persecution but I think we should allow them to die if they refused the v*****e.
No point in spending medical dollars on those that are fully aware that they can prevent this v***s but simply don't care.

Yeah, right.
Insisting on people taking a 'v*****e' tailored to a specific variant that doesn't exist in the wild anymore?
Insisting that everyone be 'v******ted' with an untested, unapproved, experimental fear porn palliative for a v***s with a 99.9+ % recovery rate among healthy humans?
Insisting now children that are at the LOWEST risk from this v***s be 'v******ted' with an untested, unapproved, experimental fear porn palliative?
Insisting that people already infected and that have acquired natural immunity be 'v******ted' with an untested, unapproved, experimental fear porn palliative?
Insisting that pregnant women be 'v******ted' with an untested, unapproved, experimental fear porn palliative?
NO v*****e has ever been put in a pregnant woman without years if not decades of safety testing and data.
Insisting that everyone be 'v******ted' with an untested, unapproved, experimental fear porn palliative that has k**led over 4000 Americans? The last v*****e that k**led anyone was pulled from the market after only 20 some odd deaths.
Insisting that everyone be 'v******ted' with an untested, unapproved, experimental fear porn palliative that NO ONE on the left wanted anything to do with just six months ago because it was associated with President Trump?
This is just wrong on so many levels.

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Jun 2, 2021 14:32:53   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
skylane5sp wrote:
Yeah, right.
Insisting on people taking a 'v*****e' tailored to a specific variant that doesn't exist in the wild anymore?
Insisting that everyone be 'v******ted' with an untested, unapproved, experimental fear porn palliative for a v***s with a 99.9+ % recovery rate among healthy humans?
Insisting now children that are at the LOWEST risk from this v***s be 'v******ted' with an untested, unapproved, experimental fear porn palliative?
Insisting that people already infected and that have acquired natural immunity be 'v******ted' with an untested, unapproved, experimental fear porn palliative?
Insisting that pregnant women be 'v******ted' with an untested, unapproved, experimental fear porn palliative?
NO v*****e has ever been put in a pregnant woman without years if not decades of safety testing and data.
Insisting that everyone be 'v******ted' with an untested, unapproved, experimental fear porn palliative that has k**led over 4000 Americans? The last v*****e that k**led anyone was pulled from the market after only 20 some odd deaths.
Insisting that everyone be 'v******ted' with an untested, unapproved, experimental fear porn palliative that NO ONE on the left wanted anything to do with just six months ago because it was associated with President Trump?
This is just wrong on so many levels.
Yeah, right. br Insisting on people taking a 'v**... (show quote)


Mostly untrue.
Do us all a favor, don't get the v*****e, don't wear a mask and hangout with others that do the same.

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Jun 2, 2021 14:57:22   #
skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA
 
Frank T wrote:
Mostly untrue.
Do us all a favor, don't get the v*****e, don't wear a mask and hangout with others that do the same.

'mostly untrue'. Then you agree some IS true. Which part? Can you refute with anything other than your MSM opinion? Are you going to quote Flip-Flop F***i?

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Jun 2, 2021 15:18:33   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Frank T wrote:
Mostly untrue.
Do us all a favor, don't get the v*****e, don't wear a mask and hangout with others that do the same.


Good idea after read his last post !

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Jun 2, 2021 15:22:12   #
skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA
 
DennyT wrote:
Good idea after read his last post !

So you've nothing of any substance either.

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Jun 2, 2021 15:53:31   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Frank T wrote:
No persecution but I think we should allow them to die if they refused the v*****e.
No point in spending medical dollars on those that are fully aware that they can prevent this v***s but simply don't care.



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Jun 2, 2021 16:06:21   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
skylane5sp wrote:
So you've nothing of any substance either.


I started this thread with a sensible post . Followed up with a question about government interference in private industry ( no comment yet), but when a ignorant post is put up the comment is deserved .

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Jun 2, 2021 16:19:02   #
skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA
 
DennyT wrote:
I started this thread with a sensible post . Followed up with a question about government interference in private industry ( no comment yet), but when a ignorant post is put up the comment is deserved .

So your opinion is that my post was 'ignorant' yet you refute none of what I posted.
You seem overly concerned about 'government interference in private industry' but seem to show no concern for 'government interference in private citizens.

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Jun 2, 2021 16:33:42   #
DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"
 
skylane5sp wrote:
So your opinion is that my post was 'ignorant' yet you refute none of what I posted.
You seem overly concerned about 'government interference in private industry' but seem to show no concern for 'government interference in private citizens.


The statistics show there's been steady improvement as the percentage of v******ted Americans increases. Declining new cases, declining hospitalizations and most importantly, declining new deaths. Coincidence? I think not.

Denny is correct, the longer the v***s lives with a large unv******ted group, the greater the potential for variants.

It's a shame this v***s had to be politicized but that's Trump's way - divide and conquer. Don't wear a mask, don't congregate in large groups, don't get v******ted - seems that getting v******ted is helping America beat this v***s. How is doing nothing working out? Who benefits when sensible precautions are available but ignored?

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Jun 2, 2021 16:48:23   #
skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA
 
DukeTarHeel wrote:
The statistics show there's been steady improvement as the percentage of v******ted Americans increases. Declining new cases, declining hospitalizations and most importantly, declining new deaths. Coincidence? I think not.

Denny is correct, the longer the v***s lives with a large unv******ted group, the greater the potential for variants.

It's a shame this v***s had to be politicized but that's Trump's way - divide and conquer. Don't wear a mask, don't congregate in large groups, don't get v******ted - seems that getting v******ted is helping America beat this v***s. How is doing nothing working out? Who benefits when sensible precautions are available but ignored?
The statistics show there's been steady improvemen... (show quote)

Statistics can show you wh**ever is needed for the narrative. Neither of you fear porn addicts have refuted any of the comments I made. Just spouted the MSM platitudes.
Why are v*****e safety protocols that have been in effect for decades suddenly ignored for a v***s that has a 99.9+ recovery rate?

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Jun 2, 2021 16:58:57   #
pendennis
 
Frank T wrote:
No persecution but I think we should allow them to die if they refused the v*****e.
No point in spending medical dollars on those that are fully aware that they can prevent this v***s but simply don't care.


That is persecution at its most basic and most vile.

While you and your Socialist ilk are at it, why not let those die who O.D. on drugs? No use filling up the ER's for those who abuse illegal drugs.

While you're at it, why not let the drunks die at the scene of accidents?

Let the obese die of MI's, or diabetic coma.

How about the smokers? Let them die of respiratory failure.

What about the elderly? Put those with dementia and/or Alzheimer's out of their misery?

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Jun 2, 2021 17:00:18   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
skylane5sp wrote:
Statistics can show you wh**ever is needed for the narrative. Neither of you fear porn addicts have refuted any of the comments I made. Just spouted the MSM platitudes.
Why are v*****e safety protocols that have been in effect for decades suddenly ignored for a v***s that has a 99.9+ recovery rate?


Your source for the 99.9% recovery rate please.

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Jun 2, 2021 17:00:57   #
DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Good to be KING isn't it DennyT? Here we live in a free democracy where We the People have the right on most things to make up our own minds. But thanks to you and yours that is all simplified now since all we have to do is wh**ever the hell you tell us to do to make everything all better. Good to know.

Seems you have forgotten all about the 60,000+ people who die from the common Flu every year. Where is your demand that THEY receive Flu shots every year? Seems like over 60,000 people die every year from illegal drug overdoses. Where is your mandate that, No more illegal drugs will be used in America, EVER? How is our drug problem working out for us in America.

Let's not forget your President Obama and his AG, Eric Holder helped send thousands of guns to the Mexican drug cartels. That was definitely a step in the wrong direction wasn't it? Here most Americans want to do away with the Mexican drug cartels and then a U.S. President, Obama, sends them rifles to what?????, defend themselves against the Mexican police or k**l more Mexican Nationals?

Dennis
Good to be KING isn't it DennyT? Here we live in ... (show quote)


You are comparing apples and oranges. The annual flu is fairly well understood and the v*****e is prepared for that year's anticipated variant. C****-** was a novel variant of the of a SARS v***s and, as with most things in the "first time though", it caused a lot of deaths simply because it took a lot of effort for scientists to even understand what they were facing. That isn't the case with the annual flu. We get annual flu shots because of the flu variants resulting from the original 1918 p******c - the so called "Spanish Flu". So, if we as a society fail to establish "herd immunity", we can look forward to two annual flu shots, one resulting from the 1918 influenza p******c and another resulting from the 2019 p******c.

Just for comparison, The Spanish flu was an unusually deadly influenza p******c caused by the H1N1 influenza v***s. It lasted from February 1918 to April 1920 and infected 500 million people – about a third of the world's population at the time – in four successive waves. The death toll is typically estimated to have been somewhere between 20 million and 50 million people. I wonder just how much science helped keep the C****-** infection from spreading even more than the 1918 p******c. As of yesterday it was reported that , world wide there have been 171.3 million cases resulting in 3.7 million deaths reported.

It makes you ask the question; "who benefits by not taking the recommended precautions included getting v******ted"? To me, not getting v******ted is like biting your nose to spite your face. That's the legacy of the prior administration's politicizing the p******c. If we don't attain herd immunity (which is now doubtful), we can look forward to annual booster shots. People can decline those shots as well but how many times does someone feel safe when rolling the dice with their life?

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Jun 2, 2021 17:08:33   #
DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"
 
skylane5sp wrote:
Statistics can show you wh**ever is needed for the narrative. Neither of you fear porn addicts have refuted any of the comments I made. Just spouted the MSM platitudes.
Why are v*****e safety protocols that have been in effect for decades suddenly ignored for a v***s that has a 99.9+ recovery rate?


I guess comprehending the science is beyond your willingness to keep an open mind. Here, I'll make it simple; the p******c is having a greatly reduced effect on our society. That's concurrent with the increase of v******ted people. Coincidence? I don't think so.

And, what's with the reference saying "you porn addicts"? Do you think that somehow makes you look smart? Maybe to you.... but to me, it's banal and childish.... about 3rd grade quality but then, 3rd graders might be insulted with the comparison.

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