pipesgt Loc: Central Florida

This is a boneyard near Paris, France with hundreds of electric powered cars. Mind you these are only cars used by the City of Paris and not personal vehicles. All of these have the same issue,.... the battery storage cells have given out and need replaced. Why not just replace them you ask? Well two reasons. First the battery storage cells cost almost double what the vehicle cost new, and second no landfill or disposals will allow the batteries to be disposed of there. So these green fairy tale electric cars are all sitting in vacant lots while their batteries drain toxins into the ground.
Still think we need to go green???

pmorin Loc: Huntington Beach, Palm Springs

Actually, yes.

Amtrain

Has any of the greenie-weenies actually put pencil to paper? The answer is no!
Here is the plain and simple truth from a gentle man named Willie Izenbaugh (sp) who in fact probably worked this out on the back of a napkin. Something our brain trust in Washington D.C. has never attempted to do.
These idiots are on track demanding that we have no FOSSIL FUELED CARS by the year 2035.

In this country today we are driving fossil fueled vehicles 3.2 TRILLION miles per year. Electric cars require ~0.3 kwh/mile. If we are to be driving only electric car by 2035, then STARTING TODAY we need to build a 1GW nuclear plant EVERY THREE WEEKS from 2021-2035 just to supply the electricity to power these vehicles ...EVERY THREE WEEKS! Think that over.

Amtrain

Due tell how are we to go green and make it work?

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

Google the Reuters fact-check on that photo: "Dozens of electric cars were left in a field in France because the company’s contract with local authorities ran out and not because of an issue with their battery storage cells as social media users questioning the environmental benefits of electric cars are claiming."

The people who refuse to believe the facts of historic drought in the West and increased deadly storms and floods in the Southeast, the effect of rising ocean temperatures and melting polar ice - you are leaving a very bleak future for your progeny. Everything affects everything else, including our ability to grow food crops.

jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana

I had a lot to say about this subject, but post deleted in self defense.

pmorin Loc: Huntington Beach, Palm Springs

My solar system generates 30 kwh per day on a sunny day in spring or summer. In the fall and winter it generates approximately 1/2 that. I never use as much every year as I generate and am always selling it back to the power company every year since it was installed in 2009. The system has paid for itself and I’m just 1 lone generator. I’m positive that I could put panels on my garage roof and charge a power wall enough during the day to charge up two vehicles overnight, every night . Will this cost me more than buying gasoline at current prices?
I don’t think so. It costs me $60 a tank to fill up now and I use a tank a week. And we have several vehicles. Money I will never see again. But setting up a solar or small wind system will be an investment that pays off in the long run. As my current system paid for itself in 9 years, I think a $20,000 investment will pay for itself in 7 years or less. From that point on, it’s costs are limited to maintenance only.

So when you ask have any of the “green weenies” ever put pencil to paper, yes, we have. We actually use real figures and thought processes to come to a reasonable conclusion. We don’t use some internet meme that’s based on lies.

Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio

The issue is storage. Also you need to factor in the cloudy cold days when you cannot produce what is in demand. A great example is Texas. Not enough storage or conventional electric production to pick up the slack when solar and wind can't produce. I'm definitely not opposed to going green. I will state with FACTS to back it up CO2 is not a greenhouse gas. Bet anyone anything that can prove it is. Even the university of California has done studies and it just isn't so. If it was we would be using CO2 instead of argon gas in our thermo pane windows. Yes we need to guard our air water and plant against all types of pollution. Just like we must guard our population from lies concerning CO2. The average temperature on earth has decreased .5 degrees in the last 20 years. I'm old enough to remember that we were supposed to be in an ice age by 2000. This planet has had 3 ice ages that we know of. Three major extinctions we can prove. If you believe you can figure out the climate cycle of the earth with a hundred years of data you are naive. Common sense needs to be used not knee jerk reactions to the lastest theory. YES WE NEED TO NOT POLLUTE AS MUCH BY THE LATEST THEORY IS NOT PROVEABLE BUT THE NUMBERS UNLESS YOU CHERRY PICK. I know lots of flack coming but you have to look at long term solutions that are sustainable without presenting new issues and possibly worse conditions. Just like electric cars. Recharge for 40 minutes Everytime you drive 5 or 6 hours at highway speeds? Why not make 3 types of battery's that can be pulled out by a forklift installed and you are on your way. Gas station charges the battery puts it in the next car. Problem? Batteries are very toxic and not very recyclable. Solution? Hydrogen fuel cell or hydrogen engines. Both available and both produce a by product of drinkable water. We need to get off the electric train unless you want to go nuclear. Windmills and solar panels can't supply demand without massive storage capabilities. Hydrogen fuel cells are proven. Apollo used them so did Gemini. Problem the had in space. To much drinking water. Funny story but we need not to worry about CO2 because cut it to low plants DIE. IN ANOTHER 10,000 YEARS YOU MIGHT HAVE ENOUGH DATA TO UNDERSTAND THE EARTH'S CLIMATE CYCLE.

SteveR Loc: Michigan

Notwithstanding what you have been able to do, NBCNews.com just had an article about projected electrical shortages in CA this year. Now not everybody in CA has the setup that you have. I would imagine that electric cars in CA would be a tremendous drain on an already taxed system.

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

Google says there are 800,000 "plug-in" cars there. That is 1.2% of total registered vehicles in CA.

Google says that the population of California in 2019 was 39 million people. One "plug-in car" per 50 people doesn't seem very noteworthy. How about homes with multiple computers, televisions, heated pools, pumps for irrigation water and sprinkler systems, air-conditioned homes far larger than needed to comfortably live, businesses that are open all night. Et cetera.

To answer your question posed in The Attic (how does California produce its electricity), read this article. You will need to scroll to top of page; I can't get the direct address because of my search.

The bottom line is you either believe in the need to make major changes to save the planet, or you don't.

Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio

So it appears to me after reading the article California cannot supply the needs they have even though they are the top producer of electricity in the country. So by adding more use of electricity without increasing generation capacity will lead to even higher prices which California is also at the top of the list of. On the Bright side. There have been a couple breakthroughs in fission energy production in the last few months. One does have to realize the final solution is not wind and solar. Yes it is great but it cannot supply the needs of an industrial nation on its own as evidenced by California still having to import 28 percent of its energy needs being the top renewable electrical producer in the nation. There are very good clean solutions but they have the very very bad word associated with them. Nuclear. Lol. It doesn't matter actually because I just finished reading a article that states the turning point is past we are doomed. Humor here but I did read the article. As stated above in my post until we concentrate on real solutions instead of the evil CO2 it really doesn't matter.

SteveR Loc: Michigan

At 1000 pounds of battery for each EV, what do we do with all those depleted batteries and how long can the resources for car batteries last? Every solution, ofc, seems to present its own set of problems. One thousand car batteries will yield one million pounds of waste. 800,000 car batteries? 800 thousand cars will yield 800 million pounds of waste.

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

Doing nothing is going to be a lot more painful than advancing with imperfect solutions.

Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio

Sorry but that may not be true. Imperfect solutions could very well be capable of killing us all. We are playing with nuclear fission. Let's pretend we thought we had it figured out. BUT WE DIDN'T! Does that make an imperfect solution more likely in your mind to kill us all?
Linda I believe your heart is in the correct place. But the facts are this. Wind and solar are not capable of supplying the CONTINUOUS DEMANDS of an advanced society. Throw in the IMMENSE demand of every vehicle on earth. The ability to generate enough electricity is HIGHLY DOUBTFUL at best. Then add the waste and toxic raw battery material from every vehicle on earth and where are we? As I've stated before. We must approach this with a long thought out process. Not just what makes people feel good today or solves the problem short term. Isn't that what got us here according to the CLIMATE SCIENTISTS? Of which are paid for by feel good money. Oil was our solution to a problem just like electric cars. Here we are according to the new batch of scientific gurus. Oh as a side note. We have just discovered that what we believe about our entire understanding of physics is INCORRECT! The Standard Model of Physics is now being proven to be WRONG! Not sure if you follow much in the way of quantum physics and such but in the last 6 months the scientific community at Cern and Lawrence Livermore and every other large collider have discovered that our understanding of PHYSICS IS WRONG! So if you think an imperfect solution cannot kill us I beg on my knees to differ. Oh also love your post and all you do for us here

SteveR Loc: Michigan

We got into that problem with nuclear power and ran into the problem of disposing of the waste. With your facile mind I thought you might have given thought to this problem.