steveo52 Loc: Rhode Island and Ocala Florida

It's been a while since I've posted here and about a year since I've done any serious photography. I have a Canon 70d and a Canon 5d MarkII with a selection of 4 lenses, I also have a Fuji XT1 with 2 lines. I had thought about upgrading to the Fuji XT4 then recently I read a review and watched some You Tube videos on the Canon 90d. I enjoy using both the Canon and the Fuji but have become a little partial to the Fuji XT1.

I'm now deciding whether I should re-think the choices and go with the Canon 90d versus the XT4. I'm looking for some feedback as to which way I should head in. I have a better selection of Canon lenses so I'm thinking maybe the 90d? I have been satisfied with my current line up and maybe I just have a case of GAS.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

Tough choice, but the canon lenses shouldn’t be the determining factor. Why? Because if you’re shooting a 5D2, you have EF full frame lenses, and while they will work fine on 90D, you will lose one of the advantages of a crop body such as the Fuji or 90D vs FF - size and weight, and if that’s not important, then why not another FF Canon such as the 5D3 or 5D4? The other main reason to choose a crop body such as the Fuji or 90D is the 1.5x change in FOV if you need that “equivalent FL” for BIF or wildlife photography that requires long teles.

In terms of price, you can buy a used Canon 5D4 for the price of a new Fuji X-T4 (which are too new to have much price reduction for used bodies) or about $1,600. Also the price of Fuji lenses (and the quality) are similar to Canon, so no real differentiator there either. I think it comes down to three major questions:
1) do you want to stay with FF or go to a crop body for size/weight and “equivalent FL”?
2) whose ergonomics do you prefer, Fuji or Canon?
3) since you have both, do you want the advantages of Mirrorless (Fuji)

Either choice is a big improvement in performance over the 5D2...

I’ve actually made this choice, and like your current cameras I upgraded my Canon to a 5D4, and one day, I’ll upgrade my Fuji X-T2 to an X-T4 (whose IBIS is the big advantage). Finally, another choice is to move up one generation on each (which is a BIG improvement in both cases) to a 5D3 and an X-T2 for about $1900, which keeps the advantages of having a FF and a crop mirrorless (each of which has their advantages).

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Don't spend any new money on yesterday's DSLRs. Commit to mirrorless for the advantages in the post above.

steveo52 Loc: Rhode Island and Ocala Florida

Thank you both for your comments I have plenty to think about. After reading the post about the 90d being discontinued and being a 2 year old camera I'll be able to arrive at a decision easier than I had not read the post below:


https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-696005-1.html

StanMac Loc: Tennessee

What will new equipment do for you that your existing gear won’t? And of what value to you is that different capability? The answers to those questions is at the essence of your decision making and no one here at UHH can give you the answers to those questions.

Stan

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

That being the case, your GAS budget will likely drive your choices.

1) If you have the funds AND your Canon FF lenses are high quality AND you want to stay with FF, then moving to an R series mirrorless body with the EF lens adapter (until you move to RF lenses) gives you a path forward to mirrorless.

2) if you are happy with the Fuji and ready to standardize on one system, then the X-T4 is a remarkable mirrorless body with IBIS and half the size and weight of the Canon. And if your GAS funds are limited, Linda from Maine has an X-T3 for sale right now in the Buy/Sell section, and it’s a BIG jump up from the X-T1.

47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range

Time to make the mirrorless move, since the 90D is circling the drain. Easy for me to say, I’m hardwired to a 7d2 and 5d4 with no current plans to abandon either (yet).

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

I bring a perspective of using cameras rather than collecting them. Therefore, when I look and see system investments that are overlapping rather then complimentary, my hackles get raised. Consider dumping the EOS equipment related to a cropped sensor and let that be replaced entirely with the Fuji X-T4. The EOS 5DII may seem 'old' in the history of full-frame DSLRs, but still this body delivers 21MP of full-frame GLORY. Unless you're going to add the requisite longer lenses and an interest for wildlife photography, there's nothing where the EOS 5DII will fail to meet your needs. If you're having a case of GAS and renewed interest needs new equipment, fine. But, you'd just be buying replacements for already top gear, even including the EOS 70D. Although for a cropped sensor size, you'd be justified with the Fuji replacement, as long as you're selective in the lenses added for this body.

jdub82 Loc: Northern California

The best information available at this time is that Canon will not replace the 90D with a new ASPC DSLR model at the end of its life cycle. However, the 90D is currently still in production and will likely be available for sale new, for some time to come.

steveo52 Loc: Rhode Island and Ocala Florida

New equipment most likely won't do much more than my existing gear does now.

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GAS most likely will drive my choices.


That's a yet for you leaving DSLRs, when I think about it a little more any of my enlargements on the walls in our home were done with the Fuji XT1 I hadn't thought about that prior to my original post.


I know you're very active here and your posts are always well thought out, what you've written makes plenty of sense to me.


This is encouraging news, it's not going to make my choice any easier but at least now I have food for thought on which path I want to take.

Thanks for all your valuable comments.

dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia

You say you "have become a little partial to the Fuji XT1". Why? What is making that appealing? If you can articulate that, we might be able to give you better advice. Is it the images? The ergonomics? The weight? Do you just like saying the word "FUJI"? (It is a fun word to say! fooooooooji! "Canon" is more brutal on the tongue.)

steveo52 Loc: Rhode Island and Ocala Florida

Why I've become partial to the XT1

1.The image quality
( that's not to say I'm dissatisfied with the results of the Canon they too have given me some very nice photos)
2. The ergonomics
3.Newest of my cameras and I got caught up in the hype of Fuji mirrorless cameras



The weight is a non-factor. I do have better selection of lenses for the Canon than for the XT1.

rickydoodah Loc: Leeds, UK

I started with Canon and moved to Fuji. Both very capable cameras but what swings it towards Fuji for me is the emotional engagement. The old style analogue dials are easy to see, adjust and use and I get a buzz from using a Fuji that I do not get from any other system. I started with film and don't now want a computer that takes photos. All I need 99% of the time is there in a few dials etc. and having to delve into menus drives me mad.

I recently bought a Sony 7C to take on holiday. A very capable camera but it doesn't inspire or excite me. Fuji does. I'm glad I got it, produces great images, but it could never replace my X-T4.

If you go on technical specs, it comes down to what each system/model has against what you want and you can do that on paper. But for me it is far more. I want it to be not just an excellent performer, I want it to make me desire to pick it up and use it, time and time again. Fuji does that, Canon and Sony don't.

None of the cameras these days perform badly. But some do things others can't and the emotional attachment for me is sets one camera from the rest. I wish I could delve into the Leica range but I can't afford it. Fuji is up there with them though in my view for emotional engagement and that's most important to me.

Good luck.

dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia

Summary; you like the images, you like the feel and it is fun. Seems like an easy choice.

steveo52 Loc: Rhode Island and Ocala Florida

The more I've thought about it, it will probably be the XT4. I'll sell the 70d but keep the 5dMarkII.