Mirrorless Shutter Count
May 1, 2021 11:56:29 #
I'm using the electronic shutter for sports on my Canon R5 and I'm wondering if shutter count applies when not using the mechanical shutter. Or are actual files written the gauge?
May 1, 2021 12:07:25 #
Tomfl101 wrote:
I'm using the electronic shutter for sports on my Canon R5 and I'm wondering if shutter count applies when not using the mechanical shutter. Or are actual files written the gauge?
I believe it has 2 different "Shutter Counts" Mechanical for the shutter and number of photo actuations with shutter release button.
May 1, 2021 15:03:03 #
Architect1776 wrote:
I believe it has 2 different "Shutter Counts" Mechanical for the shutter and number of photo actuations with shutter release button.
Very cool. Even when there’s no wear on your shutter, you can still track the wear on your shutter button and electric iris. Canon thinks of everthang ;-)
Edit: The camera shouldn’t count iris actuations cuz thaz not any part of the camera. Plus, we use multiple lenses.
When you use a remote then there’s no wear on the shutter button. Changing my tune. Canon did NOT really think of every little everthang :-(
May 1, 2021 15:19:54 #
Architect1776 wrote:
I believe it has 2 different "Shutter Counts" Mechanical for the shutter and number of photo actuations with shutter release button.
Yea that makes sense. At 20 FPS I’m racking up serious numbers real fast. I still wonder if a single shutter push for 2-3 seconds would equal 40-60 actuations or just one?
May 1, 2021 18:04:13 #
Tomfl101 wrote:
Yea that makes sense. At 20 FPS I’m racking up serious numbers real fast. I still wonder if a single shutter push for 2-3 seconds would equal 40-60 actuations or just one?
Who knows, interesting question.
May 2, 2021 05:01:37 #
I think some photographers worry way too much about the shutter count. The camera is there for taking pictures! Use a camera until it eventually wears out, then replace it. For example, if I buy a toaster, I'm not going to make toast with it as little as possible so that it may last longer.
May 2, 2021 06:20:56 #
rook2c4 wrote:
I think some photographers worry way too much about the shutter count. The camera is there for taking pictures! Use a camera until it eventually wears out, then replace it. For example, if I buy a toaster, I'm not going to make toast with it as little as possible so that it may last longer.
May 2, 2021 12:48:52 #
I tend to agree with most. The electronic shutter does not experience the wear and tear of the mechanical shutter itself and many cameras have both a mechanical shutter and an electronic shutter. As a mechanical guy I know that the shutter button is a mechanical device that travels up and down that has a shaft and a sleeve guide and a seal to protect the workings of the camera from the elements.
Thus, all mechanical equipment is subject to wear with use. The moment it is used is the moment that it starts to wear.
Thus, all mechanical equipment is subject to wear with use. The moment it is used is the moment that it starts to wear.
May 2, 2021 17:00:50 #
rook2c4 wrote:
I think some photographers worry way too much about the shutter count. The camera is there for taking pictures! Use a camera until it eventually wears out, then replace it. For example, if I buy a toaster, I'm not going to make toast with it as little as possible so that it may last longer.
Right on! I like your way of thinking.
May 2, 2021 21:42:30 #
Jersey guy
Loc: New Joisey
nervous2 wrote:
Right on! I like your way of thinking.
How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
May 2, 2021 23:40:02 #
amfoto1
Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
"Shutter count" is like mileage on a car. It's a unit of measurement.
Yes, a mechanical shutter itself can wear over time and eventually fail. But there are plenty of other things inside cameras that fail in time, too. For example, a mirrorless camera like an R5 makes constant use of the screen inside the viewfinder during shooting. It also energizes the images sensor itself continuously, since that's what "captures" the image being seen in the viewfinder.
Electronic parts wear out over time, too. Currents of electricity move atoms and molecules that eventually cause metallic transfer. Heat is another factor.
Ultimately I think it's a bit of a trade off. Using the electronic shutter in a mirrorless camera might relieve you having to worry about putting wear and tear on the mechanical shutter, but instead you are running a sensor and a monitor continuously. A DSLR with it's optical viewfinder doesn't need to use it's imaging sensor except during the instant of exposure or display an image on a monitor continuously (unless you're shooting in Live View).
Compare shooting stills to shooting video. A single 5 minute video only actuates the shutter once, but the time on the electronic components is equivalent to 7500 shutter actuations to make still photos at 1/250 second.
Yes, a mechanical shutter itself can wear over time and eventually fail. But there are plenty of other things inside cameras that fail in time, too. For example, a mirrorless camera like an R5 makes constant use of the screen inside the viewfinder during shooting. It also energizes the images sensor itself continuously, since that's what "captures" the image being seen in the viewfinder.
Electronic parts wear out over time, too. Currents of electricity move atoms and molecules that eventually cause metallic transfer. Heat is another factor.
Ultimately I think it's a bit of a trade off. Using the electronic shutter in a mirrorless camera might relieve you having to worry about putting wear and tear on the mechanical shutter, but instead you are running a sensor and a monitor continuously. A DSLR with it's optical viewfinder doesn't need to use it's imaging sensor except during the instant of exposure or display an image on a monitor continuously (unless you're shooting in Live View).
Compare shooting stills to shooting video. A single 5 minute video only actuates the shutter once, but the time on the electronic components is equivalent to 7500 shutter actuations to make still photos at 1/250 second.
May 3, 2021 07:46:54 #
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