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May 1, 2021 11:00:49   #
Rose42
 
pfrancke wrote:
hi Dave - the cartoon certainly made me laugh. But thinking about it, I can't believe that so many people can truly be so stupid. In particular, I can not believe that such a large percentage from the right and the evangelical Christian community can be so stupid.

C***d and it's risks are real. I can only conclude that our country is currently victim of a disinformation war that is targeting the US population with the purpose of weakening and destabilizing our country. My gut tells me that the leader of this effort is Russia and that the w***e s*******y groups are likely one of it's arms. (Democracy is at war with Oligarchs - I think history will show that the f****l f**l industry is an arm also).

I wish it was just a case of Stupid, but I fear it is much worse.

The best of our people are being and have been manipulated to become the worst of our people.
hi Dave - the cartoon certainly made me laugh. Bu... (show quote)


The oligarchs aren’t Russian. Our country has been and continues to be weakened by the us vs them silliness fueled by our elected congress critters.

To think its simply a large chunk of the right or Christians is to buy into the nonsense that keeps us divided.

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May 1, 2021 11:18:27   #
pfrancke Loc: cold Maine
 
Rose42 wrote:
The oligarchs aren’t Russian. Our country has been and continues to be weakened by the us vs them silliness fueled by our elected congress critters.

To think its simply a large chunk of the right or Christians is to buy into the nonsense that keeps us divided.


for me, I think my thinking is optimistic. If you are right and we are strictly doing this to ourselves, that is even more horrendous.

About oligarchs being Russian - some are. And we have plenty of our own. And they have teamed up.

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May 1, 2021 11:28:41   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
Rose42 wrote:
The oligarchs aren’t Russian. Our country has been and continues to be weakened by the us vs them silliness fueled by our elected congress critters.

To think its simply a large chunk of the right or Christians is to buy into the nonsense that keeps us divided.




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May 2, 2021 08:15:39   #
Uuglypher Loc: South Dakota (East River)
 
Hi, Piet; We are, clearly, of a mind re your specific points and sentiments… all so well stated.
My point with the simple, profoundly logical message of the posted cartoon was to emphasize the inescapable fact that those refusing to wear masks and refusing v******tion are, just as inescapably, placing themselves firmly within the demographic at highest risk of contracting and dying from infection with c****av***s-19. Not complicated… quite simple and logical! c****a-19 does “stop stupid” by hundreds- sometime thousands a day.
Indisputable fact!
Time spent seriously considering this fact is spent wisely and certainly is not wasted.
Dave

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May 2, 2021 13:20:44   #
pfrancke Loc: cold Maine
 
Uuglypher wrote:
Hi, Piet; We are, clearly, of a mind re your specific points and sentiments… all so well stated.
My point with the simple, profoundly logical message of the posted cartoon was to emphasize the inescapable fact that those refusing to wear masks and refusing v******tion are, just as inescapably, placing themselves firmly within the demographic at highest risk of contracting and dying from infection with c****av***s-19. Not complicated… quite simple and logical! c****a-19 does “stop stupid” by hundreds- sometime thousands a day.
Indisputable fact!
Time spent seriously considering this fact is spent wisely and certainly is not wasted.
Dave
Hi, Piet; We are, clearly, of a mind re your speci... (show quote)


Hi Dave - yep... And thinking about it, I have to respect their right to be stupid and put themselves at risk. If only it were just themselves. Keeping a powerful v***s alive and letting it further t***sform puts many others besides themselves at risk. Stupidity combined with selfishness, often the two traits go hand-in-hand.

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May 2, 2021 15:06:59   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
Ya’ll are hopeless but then u are not alone

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May 2, 2021 15:29:36   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
pfrancke wrote:
for me, I think my thinking is optimistic. If you are right and we are strictly doing this to ourselves, that is even more horrendous.

About oligarchs being Russian - some are. And we have plenty of our own. And they have teamed up.



Oligarchs limited to business.
An oligarchy is a small group of people power in which power rests These people may or may not be distinguished by one or several characteristics, such as nobility, celebrity, wealth, education, corporate, religious, political, or military control.

Calling America an oligarchy is jus another conspiracy with no basis in faction which some can blame others .
Not to many years ago it was the Rothschild. Now it is gates or the Bezo- just another lame conspiracy theory .

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May 2, 2021 16:47:14   #
pfrancke Loc: cold Maine
 
DennyT wrote:
Oligarchs limited to business.
An oligarchy is a small group of people power in which power rests These people may or may not be distinguished by one or several characteristics, such as nobility, celebrity, wealth, education, corporate, religious, political, or military control.

Calling America an oligarchy is jus another conspiracy with no basis in faction which some can blame others .
Not to many years ago it was the Rothschild. Now it is gates or the Bezo- just another lame conspiracy theory .
Oligarchs limited to business. br An oligarchy ... (show quote)


If our countries tax laws and regulatory efforts favor the super rich, then the super rich are in fact that small group of people in which power rests. I appreciate learning that the level of wealth is not necessarily the meaning of the word.

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May 2, 2021 17:29:14   #
Rose42
 
DennyT wrote:
Oligarchs limited to business.
An oligarchy is a small group of people power in which power rests These people may or may not be distinguished by one or several characteristics, such as nobility, celebrity, wealth, education, corporate, religious, political, or military control.

Calling America an oligarchy is jus another conspiracy with no basis in faction which some can blame others .
Not to many years ago it was the Rothschild. Now it is gates or the Bezo- just another lame conspiracy theory .
Oligarchs limited to business. br An oligarchy ... (show quote)


You will have to use the brain the good Lord gave you to see why its not a ‘conspiracy’ theory.

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May 2, 2021 17:33:16   #
Rose42
 
pfrancke wrote:
for me, I think my thinking is optimistic. If you are right and we are strictly doing this to ourselves, that is even more horrendous.

About oligarchs being Russian - some are. And we have plenty of our own. And they have teamed up.


As so many are distracted from the political process and getting involved in whats going on I am quite sure many of them would be content with a tyrant whose views they agreed with. Left, right - doesn’t matter.

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May 2, 2021 20:02:03   #
pfrancke Loc: cold Maine
 
Rose42 wrote:
As so many are distracted from the political process and getting involved in whats going on I am quite sure many of them would be content with a tyrant whose views they agreed with. Left, right - doesn’t matter.


I agree deeply with what you have just stated. We as a people are more than happy to have a tyrant, just so long as the tyrant expresses views that they agree with.

And there most definitely seems to be large scale efforts that train people what those hot spots should be.

For instance the evangelicals preach about a******n, sex (gay people/t*********r/bathrooms), and the governments attack on religion. Other groups teach that other things are the hot buttons.

None of this is conspiracy, but it most certainly is the manipulative game that is played.

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May 4, 2021 00:00:08   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
Rose42 wrote:
As so many are distracted from the political process and getting involved in whats going on I am quite sure many of them would be content with a tyrant whose views they agreed with. Left, right - doesn’t matter.


Sadly I believe u are right.

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May 4, 2021 00:02:47   #
InfiniteISO Loc: The Carolinas, USA
 
Here is a refreshing statistic

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/05/26/c****av***s-death-toll-is-heavily-concentrated-in-democratic-congressional-districts/

'nuff said.

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May 4, 2021 00:37:25   #
Nalle Loc: Tellus
 

Yet since the start of the outbreak, the death toll has been concentrated in a just a few places – mostly large metropolitan areas, especially the New York City area.

The places hit hardest by the c****av***s outbreak – which have relatively large shares of ethnic and racial minorities and residents living in densely populated urban and suburban areas – are almost all represented by congressional Democrats.

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May 4, 2021 10:18:30   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Rose42 wrote:
As so many are distracted from the political process and getting involved in whats going on I am quite sure many of them would be content with a tyrant whose views they agreed with. Left, right - doesn’t matter.


We just went through that, and you are right, as evidenced on this forum.

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