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Apr 30, 2021 19:30:42   #
sailwiz Loc: Santee, CA
 
Regardless I love my Canon M50 mirrorless system. If I could afford and upgrade it would still be mirrorless.

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Apr 30, 2021 19:32:13   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
What kind of insecure man-child would feel any form of personal hurt by the absurdity of a DSLR exploding into a puff of dust because someone someplace bought a mirrorless camera? Is that person's sense of self-worth really so tied up in their choice of camera equipment that they must hide it behind a mirror? It seems this thread has forced two such people out into the open via self-identification. The saddest part is I wouldn't know them at all without their own self-identification. My personal concern about their names, their cameras and their sensor-size registers at zero and only goes down from there.

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Apr 30, 2021 19:41:53   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
What kind of insecure man-child would feel any form of personal hurt by the absurdity of a DSLR exploding into a puff of dust because someone someplace bought a mirrorless camera? Is that person's sense of self-worth really so tied up in their choice of camera equipment that they must hide it behind a mirror? It seems this thread has forced two such people out into the open via self-identification. The saddest part is I wouldn't know them at all without their own self-identification. My personal concern about their names, their cameras and their sensor-size registers at zero and only goes down from there.
What kind of insecure man-child would feel any for... (show quote)


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Apr 30, 2021 20:44:26   #
gwilliams6
 
ShelbyDave wrote:
Wow, that is harsh. You may not like mirrorless, but several of us do. I keep seeing people post that the DSLR have as good a quality and the mirrorless is just a way for companies to get us to part with our money, but I for one agree with many points in this post. I hadn't bought a new camera for many years because my Canon 50D did take great photos and all the new models didn't seem to have enough improvements to make it worth spending my money on. But when a friend started to tell me about the advantages of mirrorless I did some research. One thing that caught my eye that wasn't even mentioned in this post was the huge improvement in ISO. I like wildlife photography which means a lot of late or early in the day shooting. The improvement in ISO range meant that I can get photos I couldn't before. The options for focusing also means I get more photos that I can keep than before. I may not be getting better quality photos than before (I would like to argue that I am, but that is not my point.) but I am getting a lot more keepers than I did. So stop calling those of us who like the mirrorless cameras haters, I don't criticize those that still prefer the DSLR, they are a fine camera and if your style of photography means they do a good enough job, fine. But why bitch, complain, grumble and just in general be haters? Nobody told you you have to buy mirrorless. We like them, leave us alone!
Wow, that is harsh. You may not like mirrorless, b... (show quote)



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Apr 30, 2021 23:03:51   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
What kind of insecure man-child would feel any form of personal hurt by the absurdity of a DSLR exploding into a puff of dust because someone someplace bought a mirrorless camera? Is that person's sense of self-worth really so tied up in their choice of camera equipment that they must hide it behind a mirror? It seems this thread has forced two such people out into the open via self-identification. The saddest part is I wouldn't know them at all without their own self-identification. My personal concern about their names, their cameras and their sensor-size registers at zero and only goes down from there.
What kind of insecure man-child would feel any for... (show quote)


Does something bad needs to be personal before someone reacts? So if I see someone bullying another guy I'll just chill out because its not for me? Does the context of meaning between the lines and the proponent of someones equipment is meant only for trash bags an absurdity? You hide behind the jokes just like a bully would, saying nah it's just joke so why are you mad? Throwing the blame and further bullying & degrading to the other guy because he is man-child and insecure?

For someone who a lot of people look up to, you should be more careful of your words. With only the text written the same words would take many meanings. Friend and the wolfpack may find it funny but strangers may not.

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Apr 30, 2021 23:07:45   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
Longshadow wrote:
I didn't take it personally...
Nor take it derogatorily.
I understood the humor.

I suppose today Don Rickles would be hung at high noon by some people.....
No butterflies and unicorns there.


No I did not take that personally either.
I understood but do not like the humor,
that is why i take it as a derogatory remark.

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May 1, 2021 00:35:55   #
MDI Mainer
 
Wallen wrote:
1. You still have not explained what a parody is.
2. I never said nor implied that I believe his post are literally true.
3. Yes he has a literally wicked sense of humor. The last one was over the edge that is why I commented against it.

Making a joke at someone else's expense over and over is not humor.
That is being a bully.


I stand corrected. There is no hope. Did you not comprehend the definition of "parody" you googled, copied verbatim from the dictionary and posted? I will repeat it here, perhaps the addition of the synonyms will explain it better to you.

par·o·dy

Learn to pronounce /ˈperədē/

noun
an imitation of the style of a particular writer, artist, or genre with deliberate exaggeration for comic effect.
"the movie is a parody of the horror genre"
Similar: satire burlesque lampoon pastiche caricature takeoff skit imitation mockery spoof sendup pappyshow
pasquinade pasticcio (Vulgar slang: piss-take)

verb
produce a humorously exaggerated imitation of (a writer, artist, or genre).
"his specialty was parodying schoolgirl fiction"

And to further your cultural education "wicked" is a Maine/New England colloquialism for "very" or "highly" and not a pejorative connoting something bad or evil.

Whether you personally like it or not is irrelevant, even in the law parody is constitutionally protected speech!

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May 1, 2021 02:31:03   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
MDI Mainer wrote:
I stand corrected. There is no hope. Did you not comprehend the definition of "parody" you googled, copied verbatim from the dictionary and posted? I will repeat it here, perhaps the addition of the synonyms will explain it better to you.

par·o·dy

Learn to pronounce /ˈperədē/

noun
an imitation of the style of a particular writer, artist, or genre with deliberate exaggeration for comic effect.
"the movie is a parody of the horror genre"
Similar: satire burlesque lampoon pastiche caricature takeoff skit imitation mockery spoof sendup pappyshow
pasquinade pasticcio (Vulgar slang: piss-take)

verb
produce a humorously exaggerated imitation of (a writer, artist, or genre).
"his specialty was parodying schoolgirl fiction"

And to further your cultural education "wicked" is a Maine/New England colloquialism for "very" or "highly" and not a pejorative connoting something bad or evil.

Whether you personally like it or not is irrelevant, even in the law parody is constitutionally protected speech!
I stand corrected. There is no hope. Did you not... (show quote)


Cool, now you know what a parody is. So how did his comments become a parody?
To further your education, "colloquial" means informal or not literary hence "good' is not wicked's true meaning.
Trully that supports my point of being careful with the use of a written word. It can have many meanings and that is not irrelevant.

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May 1, 2021 02:36:14   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
[quote=MDI Mainer]Claiming now that you "understood" but did not "like" the humor, when you first said "I take most of your post[s] as unnecessary trolling. This one is way beyond that. This is just being an asshole [emphasis added] . . . ," is almost Trumpian in trying to evade critical scrutiny of your inapt and intemperate remarks.[/quote]

Not liking and reacting is not being an A-hole. It's getting rubbed the wrong way and speaking out.
An A-hole and trolling is saying something that has no relevance in the tread just like stating it was a parody when it wasn't. Then getting pissed and angry when pointed out, putting blame & degrading the other guy for the mistake.

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May 1, 2021 02:37:29   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
I quit being afraid when I bought a mirrorless camera and none of my old DLSRs burst into smoke.

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May 1, 2021 03:00:24   #
Mr Bill 2011 Loc: southern Indiana
 
MDI Mainer wrote:
In some small town, in a shed behind someone's house, there is sure someday to be found "The Museum of the DSLR."


Or someone prowling around an old barn somewhere will come across a pristine DSLR in a dust-covered camera bag and brag about his "Barn Find!"

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May 1, 2021 08:13:38   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Here's what's funny (and also very sad) about this whole subject...a number of the same sophisticated, progressive photographers here who spend way too much of their energy trying to convince others that their DSLRs are years obsolete and that their continued use is contributing to global warming and contributing to the early demise of the universe are also arguing about what they are doing to keep Windows 7 running. They fuss and whine about why current software won't run under Windows 7. The difference is that Win 7 truly is obsolete, and it has been well-documented why continuing to use it presents a real danger not only to the folks running it, but to others as well. (I guess the good news is that somewhere along the way, those folks did, at least, finally move off of Windows XP.)

Here's the deal. We all have free choice here. You're not going to move me, at least right now. I'm not going to change your mind about changing, at least if you really want to go. And I'm not going to get you to come back, even though there are at least two discussions going on here right now started by folks who have realized that their choosing to switch has resulted in real, significant problems (one caused by the technology, one by the design) that they are having to develop work-arounds for.

It was, perhaps fun for some. It is quite past worn out now. Let it go. If you are having trouble, get Idina Menzel to sing to you.

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May 1, 2021 09:46:56   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Wallen wrote:
No I did not take that personally either.
I understood but do not like the humor,
that is why i take it as a derogatory remark.

So you didn't like it,
hang him.
.
Nice philosophy.

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May 1, 2021 10:09:14   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
larryepage wrote:
Here's what's funny (and also very sad) about this whole subject...a number of the same sophisticated, progressive photographers here who spend way too much of their energy trying to convince others that their DSLRs are years obsolete and that their continued use is contributing to global warming and contributing to the early demise of the universe are also arguing about what they are doing to keep Windows 7 running. They fuss and whine about why current software won't run under Windows 7. The difference is that Win 7 truly is obsolete, and it has been well-documented why continuing to use it presents a real danger not only to the folks running it, but to others as well. (I guess the good news is that somewhere along the way, those folks did, at least, finally move off of Windows XP.)

Here's the deal. We all have free choice here. You're not going to move me, at least right now. I'm not going to change your mind about changing, at least if you really want to go. And I'm not going to get you to come back, even though there are at least two discussions going on here right now started by folks who have realized that their choosing to switch has resulted in real, significant problems (one caused by the technology, one by the design) that they are having to develop work-arounds for.

It was, perhaps fun for some. It is quite past worn out now. Let it go. If you are having trouble, get Idina Menzel to sing to you.
Here's what's funny (and also very sad) about this... (show quote)


Other's belief or opinion that things are archaic may not agree with mine,
but don't anyone be telling me what to do or my beliefs are wrong or outdated.
I should constantly "upgrade" my rear-end.
(Of course the manufacturer wants you to do so...)

I'm an IIWDFWI kinda guy.
Still running Win 7 on two systems;
my cell phone is an old S-III;
my car is 10 years old (longest was my truck at 20, now one of my kids has it.);
two of my computers are over 8 years old; ...

And I love humor...

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May 1, 2021 11:42:22   #
MDI Mainer
 
I am going to sum up one member's (who shall be unnamed) contribution to this thread.

First, he admittedly does not like or does not understand another member's humorous posts which parody the claimed advantages of mirrorless cameras, so gratuitously resorted to a crude and vulgar epithet to insult a respected member of UHH.

Second, when called out, he did not admit responsibility or personal pique, much less apologize, but claimed that he was somehow championing the feelings of others who supposedly were being "bullied." And started insulting with the same crude and vulgar term (albeit in somewhat bowdlerized form) other members, and claimed that there was a "wolfpack" of members who apparently enjoy blood-sport humor.

Finally, he evades and deflects scrutiny by assuming to admonish others about their choice of words, and criticizing what he views as their irrelevant posts and over sensitivity!

The End.

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