47mp 4/3rds? This could be interesting. Sony is producing a 47mp 4/3rds sensor. The real question is who will be using it. If it is Olympus and Panasonic, that is going to be quite a...

wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado

This could be interesting. Sony is producing a 47mp 4/3rds sensor. The real question is who will be using it. If it is Olympus and Panasonic, that is going to be quite a jump from 20mp to 47mp. This could require slowing down some of their frame rates as a trade off for megapixels. It will be interesting to see how ISO will hold up and how big the files get in high res mode (100mp JPEG / 160mp RAW files?). I may need a bigger computer.

camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.

For sure you will need a bigger and more powerful computer. The megapixel race has been on for sometime now. It has been proven that a dSLR camera with around 24 megapixels is more than enough to produce excellent enlargements. Professionals engaged in portraits and wedding photography benefit from more pixels, not that they are absolutely necessary. I have seen outstanding enlargements made from 12 megapixels cameras. The Nikon D3 and the D700 are classic examples. I did very well when I was using my D70 with only 6 megapixels.

It is obvious that a person cropping often will need more but when it comes to quality it is not necessary to have a super megapixels camera. I shoot Olympus micro fourth thirds, I do not make huge enlargements but I have seen 20x30 inch photographs from Olympus bodies and lenses where all the details are present and those enlargements to my eyes have been awesome. It is very possible Olympus Digital Solutions will introduce new cameras as it could be possible one of them be the so called "full frame." If they will increase the number of pixels I do not really know but the 20 megapixels of their more recent cameras are very capable.

Jerrin1 Loc: Wolverhampton, England

wdross wrote:

This could be interesting. Sony is producing a 47mp 4/3rds sensor. The real question is who will be using it. If it is Olympus and Panasonic, that is going to be quite a jump from 20mp to 47mp. This could require slowing down some of their frame rates as a trade off for megapixels. It will be interesting to see how ISO will hold up and how big the files get in high res mode (100mp JPEG / 160mp RAW files?). I may need a bigger computer.

Don't quote me on this; but I believe the 47MP M43 sensor is for commercial use such as CCTV. I don't believe we will see it in our EM1X replacement (crosses fingers in the hope the Wow! factor camera OMD Solutions have suggested is an EM1X replacement). Having previously owned a fabulous Sony A7R4 61 MP camera, I can state that it did struggle somewhat at higher ISO - nowhere near as good as my A7III or A9 in that area. With respect to computers, I had to factor in a replacement PC when I purchased my A7R4.

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

wdross wrote:

This could be interesting. Sony is producing a 47mp 4/3rds sensor. The real question is who will be using it. If it is Olympus and Panasonic, that is going to be quite a jump from 20mp to 47mp. This could require slowing down some of their frame rates as a trade off for megapixels. It will be interesting to see how ISO will hold up and how big the files get in high res mode (100mp JPEG / 160mp RAW files?). I may need a bigger computer.

Your quote, " This could require slowing down some of their frame rates as a trade off for megapixels," does not hold much water considering the Sony a1 is a 50 mg. camera and shoots at 30 fps. with no loss of pixels.

wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado

billnikon wrote:

Your quote, " This could require slowing down some of their frame rates as a trade off for megapixels," does not hold much water considering the Sony a1 is a 50 mg. camera and shoots at 30 fps. with no loss of pixels.

It would not "hurt" me much if the 20mp 60fps E-M1 would slow down to 47mp 30fps. It would be a lot less editing than what happens at 60fps. If 30fps is good enough for Sony a1, I am sure it would be more than acceptable for most of us Olympus users in moving over the 20mp sensor mark. Jerrin1 could be right that the 47mp will only end up as a commercial sensor. But if they get us 4/3rds users at least a new 25mp to 30mp sensor, I will be happy. Camerapapi is correct that a careful 20mp shot is capable of producing two page spread. It is just that 25mp to 47mp allows for one to be able to do some cropping.

Canisdirus

wdross wrote:

This could be interesting. Sony is producing a 47mp 4/3rds sensor. The real question is who will be using it. If it is Olympus and Panasonic, that is going to be quite a jump from 20mp to 47mp. This could require slowing down some of their frame rates as a trade off for megapixels. It will be interesting to see how ISO will hold up and how big the files get in high res mode (100mp JPEG / 160mp RAW files?). I may need a bigger computer.

Handling the files isn't a big deal. heavily processing them might be.
Sony lists the sensor for industrial uses, but that may be only part of it.
Panasonic can probably afford to buy some...if Sony wants to sell.
Defunct OLY?... no. Oly always had a serious problem of too many sensors in backlog...why new cameras basically kept using the same sensor...just tweaked a bit.
If anything...this will render the Oly sensors...more obsolete than they already are.
No...Pan would be the customer more than likely... JIP cannot afford to.

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

wdross wrote:

This could be interesting. Sony is producing a 47mp 4/3rds sensor. The real question is who will be using it. If it is Olympus and Panasonic, that is going to be quite a jump from 20mp to 47mp. This could require slowing down some of their frame rates as a trade off for megapixels. It will be interesting to see how ISO will hold up and how big the files get in high res mode (100mp JPEG / 160mp RAW files?). I may need a bigger computer.

You'll only need a more powerful computer if your current computer is minimally configured. Extra storage certainly wouldn't hurt. Lossless compressed 14 bit files for a D850 (45 mp) should be similar at round 55 mb, and jpegs shot fine and largest size will be about 30 mb at 100% quality, and maybe around 10 mb for 90%. You will never see a difference between 90% and 100%.

Frame rate on the now 3 yr old D850 is 7.1 fps, faster than the frame rate on a 36 mp D810 (5 fps) and the 36 mp D800 (4 fps). So assumptions about performance and image size should not be made until it gets released.

aphelps Loc: Central Ohio

wdross wrote:

This could be interesting. Sony is producing a 47mp 4/3rds sensor. The real question is who will be using it. If it is Olympus and Panasonic, that is going to be quite a jump from 20mp to 47mp. This could require slowing down some of their frame rates as a trade off for megapixels. It will be interesting to see how ISO will hold up and how big the files get in high res mode (100mp JPEG / 160mp RAW files?). I may need a bigger computer.

Don't confuse 4/3 with m4/3. Sensors are different sizes.

Canisdirus

aphelps wrote:

Don't confuse 4/3 with m4/3. Sensors are different sizes.

Same size.
The 'regular' 4/3 was created for single-lens reflex cameras.
Micro setup places the lens closer to the sensor....about the only difference.

sirvive Loc: South Louisiana

aphelps wrote:

Don't confuse 4/3 with m4/3. Sensors are different sizes.

i think the physical size of the sensors is the same; only the mount is different.

Hip Coyote

As artificial intelligence gets better and better (like Topaz Sharpen, DeNoise) I think we will see that tech built into cameras. I think the notion of sensor size may eventually be trumped by other factors such as camera processing power. It is inevitable that someone will stuff more mb into a smaller sensor, but the frontier is not as much there as in AI.

JohnR Loc: The Gates of Hell

camerapapi wrote:

For sure you will need a bigger and more powerful ... (show quote)