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M51 - First Try at LRGB Deep Sky
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Apr 23, 2021 12:32:22   #
J-SPEIGHT Loc: Akron, Ohio
 
Ballard wrote:
I finally received the parts to do some LRGB deep sky shots. For my first try I went back to my old friend M51. The sky was pretty bad with peak seeing going down to ~3-4 arc seconds (a lot of twinkle in the stars). The RMS on the guiding was not great but OK ~1.5 arc second, there were also thin high clouds, a first quarter moon as well as a layer of smoke from a "Controlled" burn a few miles away to deal with. But I was anxious to give LRGB deep sky a try so I went for it anyway. Considering the sky conditions the image came out better than I expected. The color is a bit off since I didn't go through the color calibration process yet but the image does have have less color noise and more detail than my previous DSLR image taken on a good night. I still need to learn a lot more on processing these types of images and using the camera.(These old CCDs are difficult to focus with ~10 sec download time between each test).
This image was made with 12, 5 minute subs for each filter (total exposure time ~4 hours minus a couple of subs that were not up to snuff). I also used Dark frames, Bias frames and Flat frames for each filter. I ran the camera a 0 degrees Celsius.

The equipment used was:
Used SBIG 11002 monochrome camera with Filter Wheel
Astrodon LRGB filters
Meade LX200 16 inch Schmidt-Cassegrain telescope.
Astrodon MOAG - for offaxis guiding
Starlight express Lodestar X2 - for the guide camera.
Optec TCF Leo focuser for focusing (This really helped since when you use the Mirror lock on the Meade it changes the focus slightly, but if you don't the focus will drift in less than 1 hour. With the TCF Leo attached I would use the telescope focus, then lock the mirror and the re-adjust the focus with with the mirror lock left engaged. Still a very tedious process with bad seeing and the long download from the CCD).
Mount Astrophysics 1600GTO

Software used
ASCOM platform for device control interface to programs.
Astro - Physics APCC - and associated ASCOM driver for mount control.
PHD - for guiding
Sky-X to tell the telescope where to go.
Pixinsight for processing the Image
SBig Control - to control the filter wheel and camera.

The next step will be to take a bunch of HA subs and learn how to integrate that into the image
All questions, comments and suggestions are welcome.
I finally received the parts to do some LRGB deep ... (show quote)


Gorgeous image

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Apr 23, 2021 12:39:24   #
Ballard Loc: Grass Valley, California
 
stepping beyond wrote:
Ballard ,I'll tell ya that getting the signal to noise ratio high enough is a real chore with this 1600m{pro} it's much more sensitive than what I'm used to but, no worries. I'll get it going . The city installed one of those LED lights that's just killing me and I may have to shoot even shorter than 10s exposures on many targets.


Hi Stepping beyond. I hate street lights, that was one of the reasons I moved out to the country side where it is still fairly dark (It did make for a 1 hour commute each why while I was working, but now that I'm retired I'm glad to be out here).The 1600m has a real nice QE that would make it very sensitive and has very good read noise values which should allow taking many short exposures and stack them. The second hand CCD I got doesn't have as good a QE but does have a large well depth and 16 bit AtoD that allow it to take long exposures. Last night I took 12 10minute exposures (2 hours worth with a 5nm HA filter) to pull out the HA signal, the subs came out decently and I will be probably adding them in to the shot of M51 tomorrow (today I've got a bunch of chores to finish). Note: with the narrow band HA filter the waxing gibbous moon didn't effect the image much, it would probably work well with regular light pollution also.

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Apr 23, 2021 12:44:08   #
Ballard Loc: Grass Valley, California
 
J-SPEIGHT wrote:
Gorgeous image


Hi J-SPEIGHT
Thanks for checking out the image of M51 and for the comment. I will be adding in some HA in the near future and redo the image to improve the color.

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Apr 23, 2021 22:10:30   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
Well don't ask me, I use a color camera. LOL!

Looks good Ballard!
Keep at it.

I seem to be in a frosty glass here. Coastal fog that won't quit.
UGH!

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Apr 24, 2021 01:01:20   #
Ballard Loc: Grass Valley, California
 
SonnyE wrote:
Well don't ask me, I use a color camera. LOL!

Looks good Ballard!
Keep at it.

I seem to be in a frosty glass here. Coastal fog that won't quit.
UGH!


Hi SonnyE
Thanks for checking out the image of M51. The air has been somewhat turbulent here making for poor seeing, now the clouds have moved in and it will be raining by Sunday for few days. At least it is doing it while the moon is getting a bit bright to do any deep sky.

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Apr 24, 2021 11:23:59   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
Filters like HA are great for moonie nights....
If you have the seeing conditions.

My weather apps are as big of liars are our weather actors.
Guess they can't see fog.

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Apr 25, 2021 19:50:41   #
Ballard Loc: Grass Valley, California
 
For those interested I posted and updated image of M51 with 2 hours of HA added to the red channel at
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-694585-1.html

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Apr 26, 2021 09:13:01   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
That really gave it "Pop"!

My only suggestion would be to work on your focus. Because the stars appear soft to me.

But wonderful color!

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Apr 26, 2021 11:30:14   #
Ballard Loc: Grass Valley, California
 
SonnyE wrote:
That really gave it "Pop"!

My only suggestion would be to work on your focus. Because the stars appear soft to me.

But wonderful color!


Hi SonnyE
Thanks for checking out the latest image of M51 and for the comment.
The seeing was pretty bad (3-4 arcseconds) making it difficult to get really good focus and suffered from high thin clouds coming by. The image I got with the DSLR had much better seeing at the time, but the DSLR image was noisier and couldn't show the HA. I expect as we get out of storm season the seeing will improve as will by shots.

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May 8, 2021 20:17:03   #
DickC Loc: NE Washington state
 
I'd say you did well!!

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May 9, 2021 02:35:36   #
Ballard Loc: Grass Valley, California
 
DickC wrote:
I'd say you did well!!


Hi DickC
Thanks for checking out the images and for the Thumbs up.

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May 9, 2021 10:50:25   #
DickC Loc: NE Washington state
 
Ballard wrote:
Hi DickC
Thanks for checking out the images and for the Thumbs up.


Your most welcome!

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