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Oct 12, 2012 07:43:33   #
ephraim Imperio
 
Brucej67 wrote:
Nikon D300s:

Continuous Shooting up to 7 fps
High speed shooting and fast response—essential to versatile performance in a wide variety of shooting disciplines.

D-Movie HD Video
Capture striking 24 fps, 720p HD movie clips, enhanced by NIKKOR interchangeable lens quality and versatility—featuring external stereo Mic input and AF operation.

Sony A77:
World's fastest up to 12 fps continuous
The translucent mirror makes it far easier to capture the decisive soccer kick or your baby at her absolute cutest. Shoots up to 12 frames per second at full-resolution 24.3 megapixels with continuous auto focus (AE locked after first frame). This is the world's fastest shooting speed for interchangeable lens APS-C cameras, as of August, 2011.

HD Movies4 at 60p, 60i, or 24pCapture spectacular HD Movies4. This is the world’s first DSLR to offer a choice of super-smooth 60p, standard 60i or cinematic 24p, all at Full HD 1920x1080 resolution. AVCHD™ codec delivers stunning picture quality. MP4 codec offers smaller files for easier upload to the web.


Wabbit wrote:
marcomarks wrote:
OnDSnap wrote:
My daughter's life long friend has been looking to buy a DSLR, tried selling one of my spare Nikon's to him...5100 to be specific. However he seems to have his heart set on the Sony A77...solely based on things he's read. If there are any Sony A77 users that may lend a word or two whether he should or should not make the purchase any why I would greatly appreciate it., I've been trying to talk him into either Nikon or Canon but can't seem to budge him. Thanks for any advise as to why he should or shouldn't buy the Sony A77, also any recommended lenses for the Sony. He' s not shy on spending for good glass.
Thanks so much..
My daughter's life long friend has been looking to... (show quote)


Nikon uses a Sony Alpha sensor in the D5100 so since you're a Nikon loyalist that should prove something to you about Sony quality. I have a Sony Alpha 55 and several friends with D5100s. I consistently take indoor and outdoor shots at parties and get togethers that are just as good or better than theirs.

It's mostly dependent on the operator anyway. There are people on UHH who can take better shots with $350 bridge cameras than others with $1500 dSLRs.

There is no factual reason to downplay or criticize Sony in favor of Nikon other than your personal bias because even the Alpha 55 has features and specs exceeding the D5100 and output results that are right on par. The Alpha 77 far exceeds the 55 in every way.

Sony invented and pioneered digital still photography. Sony bought and owns Konica/Minolta so their lenses are Minolta quality and Zeiss in the higher end units. Sony started building dSLRs with decades of Minolta experience behind the products and is putting massive research effort into very high ISO with little or no noise and other technologies such as burst speed and mirrorless that lead the pack in some cases.

Sony Alpha 77 has proven itself to be just as awesome as anything else in its class. Minolta lenses are compatible so there is a large selection of used and new-old-stock available and cheaper than Nikon by far. Image stabilization is in the body so non-VR lenses can be used too. Sony makes flashes and accessories, as well as other manufacturers making compatible TTL flashes. I have two Vivitar 383 flashes for mine.

And... I predict that Sony will fight its way to to dSLR and mirrorless market dominance eventually unless Canon or Nikon comes out with something very outrageous and patented like an all new radical technology.

Your daughter's friend has made a very good choice with apparently unbiased research.
quote=OnDSnap My daughter's life long friend has ... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... you obviously never tried a D300s for fast moving action ..... Sony doesn't even come close .....
quote=marcomarks quote=OnDSnap My daughter's lif... (show quote)
Nikon D300s: br br Continuous Shooting up to 7 fp... (show quote)


i haven't seen a lot of professional sports photographer using the A-77 cameras. If if it is that fast, sports photographers should be using them.

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Oct 12, 2012 08:22:40   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
Because most (not all) professional photographers are hooked on one of the top two (Nikon or Canon). There are good reasons why sport photographers use Nikon or Canon, (1) Sony is relatively new and most photographers have a lot of money tied up in expensive lens and gear (2) Nikon and Canon carry the brand image and are here to stay.

[quote=ephraim Imperio]
Brucej67 wrote:
Nikon D300s:


i haven't seen a lot of professional sports photographer using the A-77 cameras. If if it is that fast, sports photographers should be using them.

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Oct 12, 2012 08:22:56   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
Brucej67 wrote:
Nikon D300s:

Continuous Shooting up to 7 fps
High speed shooting and fast response—essential to versatile performance in a wide variety of shooting disciplines.

D-Movie HD Video
Capture striking 24 fps, 720p HD movie clips, enhanced by NIKKOR interchangeable lens quality and versatility—featuring external stereo Mic input and AF operation.

Sony A77:
World's fastest up to 12 fps continuous
The translucent mirror makes it far easier to capture the decisive soccer kick or your baby at her absolute cutest. Shoots up to 12 frames per second at full-resolution 24.3 megapixels with continuous auto focus (AE locked after first frame). This is the world's fastest shooting speed for interchangeable lens APS-C cameras, as of August, 2011.

HD Movies4 at 60p, 60i, or 24pCapture spectacular HD Movies4. This is the world’s first DSLR to offer a choice of super-smooth 60p, standard 60i or cinematic 24p, all at Full HD 1920x1080 resolution. AVCHD™ codec delivers stunning picture quality. MP4 codec offers smaller files for easier upload to the web.


Wabbit wrote:
marcomarks wrote:
OnDSnap wrote:
My daughter's life long friend has been looking to buy a DSLR, tried selling one of my spare Nikon's to him...5100 to be specific. However he seems to have his heart set on the Sony A77...solely based on things he's read. If there are any Sony A77 users that may lend a word or two whether he should or should not make the purchase any why I would greatly appreciate it., I've been trying to talk him into either Nikon or Canon but can't seem to budge him. Thanks for any advise as to why he should or shouldn't buy the Sony A77, also any recommended lenses for the Sony. He' s not shy on spending for good glass.
Thanks so much..
My daughter's life long friend has been looking to... (show quote)


Nikon uses a Sony Alpha sensor in the D5100 so since you're a Nikon loyalist that should prove something to you about Sony quality. I have a Sony Alpha 55 and several friends with D5100s. I consistently take indoor and outdoor shots at parties and get togethers that are just as good or better than theirs.

It's mostly dependent on the operator anyway. There are people on UHH who can take better shots with $350 bridge cameras than others with $1500 dSLRs.

There is no factual reason to downplay or criticize Sony in favor of Nikon other than your personal bias because even the Alpha 55 has features and specs exceeding the D5100 and output results that are right on par. The Alpha 77 far exceeds the 55 in every way.

Sony invented and pioneered digital still photography. Sony bought and owns Konica/Minolta so their lenses are Minolta quality and Zeiss in the higher end units. Sony started building dSLRs with decades of Minolta experience behind the products and is putting massive research effort into very high ISO with little or no noise and other technologies such as burst speed and mirrorless that lead the pack in some cases.

Sony Alpha 77 has proven itself to be just as awesome as anything else in its class. Minolta lenses are compatible so there is a large selection of used and new-old-stock available and cheaper than Nikon by far. Image stabilization is in the body so non-VR lenses can be used too. Sony makes flashes and accessories, as well as other manufacturers making compatible TTL flashes. I have two Vivitar 383 flashes for mine.

And... I predict that Sony will fight its way to to dSLR and mirrorless market dominance eventually unless Canon or Nikon comes out with something very outrageous and patented like an all new radical technology.

Your daughter's friend has made a very good choice with apparently unbiased research.
quote=OnDSnap My daughter's life long friend has ... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... you obviously never tried a D300s for fast moving action ..... Sony doesn't even come close .....
quote=marcomarks quote=OnDSnap My daughter's lif... (show quote)
Nikon D300s: br br Continuous Shooting up to 7 fp... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... like I said, You Obviously Never tried a D300s for fast moving subjects ..... your specs look good on paper but fall short in practice .....

Frame rate means squat if they're not in focus .....

Try tracking flying birds with your Sony, any Sony and it'll turn you into a believer ..... the Sony can't even hold a candle to it .....

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Oct 12, 2012 08:31:04   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
No I have never shot with a D300s, I do have the D2X, D7000 and D800 and love them, I also have Sony cameras including an A77 and love them. I don't want to argue with you on one versus the other (DSLR vs SLT) but you would be supprised at the versitility and I recomend you either rent one for a weekend or go to the photo store and handle it, you might be supprised.

Wabbit wrote:
Brucej67 wrote:
Nikon D300s:

Continuous Shooting up to 7 fps
High speed shooting and fast response—essential to versatile performance in a wide variety of shooting disciplines.

D-Movie HD Video
Capture striking 24 fps, 720p HD movie clips, enhanced by NIKKOR interchangeable lens quality and versatility—featuring external stereo Mic input and AF operation.

Sony A77:
World's fastest up to 12 fps continuous
The translucent mirror makes it far easier to capture the decisive soccer kick or your baby at her absolute cutest. Shoots up to 12 frames per second at full-resolution 24.3 megapixels with continuous auto focus (AE locked after first frame). This is the world's fastest shooting speed for interchangeable lens APS-C cameras, as of August, 2011.

HD Movies4 at 60p, 60i, or 24pCapture spectacular HD Movies4. This is the world’s first DSLR to offer a choice of super-smooth 60p, standard 60i or cinematic 24p, all at Full HD 1920x1080 resolution. AVCHD™ codec delivers stunning picture quality. MP4 codec offers smaller files for easier upload to the web.


Wabbit wrote:
marcomarks wrote:
OnDSnap wrote:
My daughter's life long friend has been looking to buy a DSLR, tried selling one of my spare Nikon's to him...5100 to be specific. However he seems to have his heart set on the Sony A77...solely based on things he's read. If there are any Sony A77 users that may lend a word or two whether he should or should not make the purchase any why I would greatly appreciate it., I've been trying to talk him into either Nikon or Canon but can't seem to budge him. Thanks for any advise as to why he should or shouldn't buy the Sony A77, also any recommended lenses for the Sony. He' s not shy on spending for good glass.
Thanks so much..
My daughter's life long friend has been looking to... (show quote)


Nikon uses a Sony Alpha sensor in the D5100 so since you're a Nikon loyalist that should prove something to you about Sony quality. I have a Sony Alpha 55 and several friends with D5100s. I consistently take indoor and outdoor shots at parties and get togethers that are just as good or better than theirs.

It's mostly dependent on the operator anyway. There are people on UHH who can take better shots with $350 bridge cameras than others with $1500 dSLRs.

There is no factual reason to downplay or criticize Sony in favor of Nikon other than your personal bias because even the Alpha 55 has features and specs exceeding the D5100 and output results that are right on par. The Alpha 77 far exceeds the 55 in every way.

Sony invented and pioneered digital still photography. Sony bought and owns Konica/Minolta so their lenses are Minolta quality and Zeiss in the higher end units. Sony started building dSLRs with decades of Minolta experience behind the products and is putting massive research effort into very high ISO with little or no noise and other technologies such as burst speed and mirrorless that lead the pack in some cases.

Sony Alpha 77 has proven itself to be just as awesome as anything else in its class. Minolta lenses are compatible so there is a large selection of used and new-old-stock available and cheaper than Nikon by far. Image stabilization is in the body so non-VR lenses can be used too. Sony makes flashes and accessories, as well as other manufacturers making compatible TTL flashes. I have two Vivitar 383 flashes for mine.

And... I predict that Sony will fight its way to to dSLR and mirrorless market dominance eventually unless Canon or Nikon comes out with something very outrageous and patented like an all new radical technology.

Your daughter's friend has made a very good choice with apparently unbiased research.
quote=OnDSnap My daughter's life long friend has ... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... you obviously never tried a D300s for fast moving action ..... Sony doesn't even come close .....
quote=marcomarks quote=OnDSnap My daughter's lif... (show quote)
Nikon D300s: br br Continuous Shooting up to 7 fp... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... like I said, You Obviously Never tried a D300s for fast moving subjects ..... your specs look good on paper but fall short in practice .....

Frame rate means squat if they're not in focus .....

Try tracking flying birds with your Sony, any Sony and it'll turn you into a believer ..... the Sony can't even hold a candle to it .....
quote=Brucej67 Nikon D300s: br br Continuous Sho... (show quote)

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