Steve Schleicher, one of four attorneys on the prosecuting team against former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, made his closing argument Monday. Much like the rest of his team's case, it relied on a fantasy about what actually happened the day that G****e F***d died.
It's sort of ironic. Schleicher kept telling the jury over and over again that it was Chauvin's lawyer who was introducing "hypotheticals that don't apply," that there's a video that gives them all the reason they need to deliver a conviction. But it's Schleicher and the prosecution hoping the jury will imagine an alternate reality.
This fact is nowhere more evident than in the prosecution having brought in a parade of medical professionals, none of whom ever examined Floyd's body, to dream up a cause of death that contradicts the word of the only person who did examine Floyd's body.
The autopsy, conducted by Hennepin County medical examiner Dr. Andrew Baker, showed that Floyd died of a heart attack that was triggered by lethal amounts of drugs in his system and stress from the police restraint.
Yes, Floyd was pressed to the ground for close to 10 minutes after an absurdly long struggle with police. Chauvin had his leg against Floyd's upper-back and neck area to prevent him from moving as an angry crowd circled the scene. And yet Baker found no evidence of asphyxiation. There was nothing about asphyxiation in his report. He maintained during his testimony that Floyd died of a heart attack and that if police had not been involved, he would have otherwise concluded that he died of an overdose.
But what Baker did find remarkable was that despite Floyd having been held to the ground, there was no bruising or injury to his neck or tracheal pipe. He testified that he doesn't usually document findings that are normal unless it would be worth knowing that they are, in fact, normal. Knowing that Floyd had been held to the ground, a reasonable person might expect at least some mark to his neck. But Baker found nothing and was sure to make note of it.
With that information, what has the prosecution done? Why, they found doctors to say the exact opposite!
Pay no attention to the veteran medical examiner with a professional history that no one takes exception with. Listen to all these other people who weren't there, didn't see Floyd's body, and have no direct relation to the case at all, other than that they're being paid by the prosecuting team (the state) to be there.
In addition to concocting a theory about Floyd suffocating to death, Schleicher is also hoping that the jury watches the video of the crowd that gathered round Chauvin and sees not a very obviously hostile mob but instead a staid and concerned group of citizens.
Here's a sample of what that gathering of docile passersby were yelling on that day in 2020:
— "He's a f---ing bum, bro."
— "He's enjoying that s---."
— "You f---ing bum."
— "It's the w****s. They love messing with us."
— "I'm not scared of you, bro."
— "You're a f---ing p---y-ass dude."
I suspect that's not what comes to mind when we think about a peaceful assembly.
Schleicher and the prosecution pretend that the plain facts are on their side. They're not, and that's why they've tried to paint for the jury a completely different reality than the one they're living in.
From what I saw, if Floyd would have obeyed lawful police commands he may still be alive unless he already had a lethal dose of drugs.
Would there not be bruising if he indeed did have his knee on his neck with enough force to cut off the airway? I do not know.
Either way, regardless of the verdict, there will be r**ting.
So my radical right friends. Please tell.me this. When Floyd stopped breathing, was he still resisting?
tradio wrote:
From what I saw, if Floyd would have obeyed lawful police commands he may still be alive unless he already had a lethal dose of drugs.
Would there not be bruising if he indeed did have his knee on his neck with enough force to cut off the airway? I do not know.
Either way, regardless of the verdict, there will be r**ting.
The Irish pulmonary specialist explained all that, and he wasn't being paid for his time.
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
Steve Schleicher, one of four attorneys on the prosecuting team against former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, made his closing argument Monday. Much like the rest of his team's case, it relied on a fantasy about what actually happened the day that G****e F***d died.
It's sort of ironic. Schleicher kept telling the jury over and over again that it was Chauvin's lawyer who was introducing "hypotheticals that don't apply," that there's a video that gives them all the reason they need to deliver a conviction. But it's Schleicher and the prosecution hoping the jury will imagine an alternate reality.
This fact is nowhere more evident than in the prosecution having brought in a parade of medical professionals, none of whom ever examined Floyd's body, to dream up a cause of death that contradicts the word of the only person who did examine Floyd's body.
The autopsy, conducted by Hennepin County medical examiner Dr. Andrew Baker, showed that Floyd died of a heart attack that was triggered by lethal amounts of drugs in his system and stress from the police restraint.
Yes, Floyd was pressed to the ground for close to 10 minutes after an absurdly long struggle with police. Chauvin had his leg against Floyd's upper-back and neck area to prevent him from moving as an angry crowd circled the scene. And yet Baker found no evidence of asphyxiation. There was nothing about asphyxiation in his report. He maintained during his testimony that Floyd died of a heart attack and that if police had not been involved, he would have otherwise concluded that he died of an overdose.
But what Baker did find remarkable was that despite Floyd having been held to the ground, there was no bruising or injury to his neck or tracheal pipe. He testified that he doesn't usually document findings that are normal unless it would be worth knowing that they are, in fact, normal. Knowing that Floyd had been held to the ground, a reasonable person might expect at least some mark to his neck. But Baker found nothing and was sure to make note of it.
With that information, what has the prosecution done? Why, they found doctors to say the exact opposite!
Pay no attention to the veteran medical examiner with a professional history that no one takes exception with. Listen to all these other people who weren't there, didn't see Floyd's body, and have no direct relation to the case at all, other than that they're being paid by the prosecuting team (the state) to be there.
In addition to concocting a theory about Floyd suffocating to death, Schleicher is also hoping that the jury watches the video of the crowd that gathered round Chauvin and sees not a very obviously hostile mob but instead a staid and concerned group of citizens.
Here's a sample of what that gathering of docile passersby were yelling on that day in 2020:
— "He's a f---ing bum, bro."
— "He's enjoying that s---."
— "You f---ing bum."
— "It's the w****s. They love messing with us."
— "I'm not scared of you, bro."
— "You're a f---ing p---y-ass dude."
I suspect that's not what comes to mind when we think about a peaceful assembly.
Schleicher and the prosecution pretend that the plain facts are on their side. They're not, and that's why they've tried to paint for the jury a completely different reality than the one they're living in.
Steve Schleicher, one of four attorneys on the pro... (
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You don't really bruise after you are dead.
soba1
Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
When the person is no longer a threat thats when the officer should have let up.
He didnt therefore that makes him guilty.
Thats my opinion, basic law.
If someone attacks me and I began to get the better of him. He then says I give up and continue to beat him. I then become the agressor. No one is above the law
Did any of know that Chauvin wanted to plead guilty to 3rd degree murder but was denied the plea by the DA?
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
Steve Schleicher, one of four attorneys on the prosecuting team against former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, made his closing argument Monday. Much like the rest of his team's case, it relied on a fantasy about what actually happened the day that G****e F***d died.
It's sort of ironic. Schleicher kept telling the jury over and over again that it was Chauvin's lawyer who was introducing "hypotheticals that don't apply," that there's a video that gives them all the reason they need to deliver a conviction. But it's Schleicher and the prosecution hoping the jury will imagine an alternate reality.
This fact is nowhere more evident than in the prosecution having brought in a parade of medical professionals, none of whom ever examined Floyd's body, to dream up a cause of death that contradicts the word of the only person who did examine Floyd's body.
The autopsy, conducted by Hennepin County medical examiner Dr. Andrew Baker, showed that Floyd died of a heart attack that was triggered by lethal amounts of drugs in his system and stress from the police restraint.
Yes, Floyd was pressed to the ground for close to 10 minutes after an absurdly long struggle with police. Chauvin had his leg against Floyd's upper-back and neck area to prevent him from moving as an angry crowd circled the scene. And yet Baker found no evidence of asphyxiation. There was nothing about asphyxiation in his report. He maintained during his testimony that Floyd died of a heart attack and that if police had not been involved, he would have otherwise concluded that he died of an overdose.
But what Baker did find remarkable was that despite Floyd having been held to the ground, there was no bruising or injury to his neck or tracheal pipe. He testified that he doesn't usually document findings that are normal unless it would be worth knowing that they are, in fact, normal. Knowing that Floyd had been held to the ground, a reasonable person might expect at least some mark to his neck. But Baker found nothing and was sure to make note of it.
With that information, what has the prosecution done? Why, they found doctors to say the exact opposite!
Pay no attention to the veteran medical examiner with a professional history that no one takes exception with. Listen to all these other people who weren't there, didn't see Floyd's body, and have no direct relation to the case at all, other than that they're being paid by the prosecuting team (the state) to be there.
In addition to concocting a theory about Floyd suffocating to death, Schleicher is also hoping that the jury watches the video of the crowd that gathered round Chauvin and sees not a very obviously hostile mob but instead a staid and concerned group of citizens.
Here's a sample of what that gathering of docile passersby were yelling on that day in 2020:
— "He's a f---ing bum, bro."
— "He's enjoying that s---."
— "You f---ing bum."
— "It's the w****s. They love messing with us."
— "I'm not scared of you, bro."
— "You're a f---ing p---y-ass dude."
I suspect that's not what comes to mind when we think about a peaceful assembly.
Schleicher and the prosecution pretend that the plain facts are on their side. They're not, and that's why they've tried to paint for the jury a completely different reality than the one they're living in.
Steve Schleicher, one of four attorneys on the pro... (
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Your post is pure bs, propaganda, and nothing more than hypothetical speculation.
The fact that the Defense team paid an alleged "expert" to try to make you and the jury believe that G****e F***d died as a result of Carbon Monoxide Poisoning, and you believed him is laughable.
That claim was refuted on redirect the last day of testimony, and was proven to be false as a direct result of Floyd's blood oxygen level of nearly 98%.
By the way, that paid "expert" is a defendant in another court case involving a similar case to G****e F***d's!
tradio wrote:
... regardless of the verdict, there will be r**ting.
The show of support for the
3 Guilty Verdicts have been peaceful!
The jury got all three verdicts against Chauvin correct.
They have taken the first of the defendants off of the street for what may be the rest of Chauvin's life.
One down, three to go!
letmedance wrote:
Did any of know that Chauvin wanted to plead guilty to 3rd degree murder but was denied the plea by the DA?
Doesn't a plea deal usually have to originate from the prosecution's side, not the defendant's side?
The evidence was overwhelmingly against Chauvin, why should the prosecution opt for a single charge when they fought to get the 3rd degree murder charge re-admitted to the case!
Second degree unintentional murder - up to 40 years in prison
Third degree murder - up to 25 years in prison
Manslaughter - up to 10 years in prison
We'll find out in eight weeks just how much time Chauvin will be sentenced to.
kymarto
Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
dlwhawaii wrote:
BS, as usual.
Convicted by a jury of his peers
sb
Loc: Florida's East Coast
Complete disinformation nonsense. Photos were presented at the trial that showed bruises and abrasions on the left side of his face and forehead. He had a deep bruise on his shoulder. His knuckles were abraded where he tried to push his face off the ground. And while certainly had he calmly responded to all police requests this wouldn't have happened, there is no doubt that Chauvin k**led him - and 12 out of 12 jurors presented with all the evidence agreed. Just the fact that he kept him pinned down, unable to breathe, for MINUTES after he stopped moving, stopped breathing and after his heart stopped, without rendering aid or allowing others to render aid, in itself merits the charges.
letmedance wrote:
Did any of know that Chauvin wanted to plead guilty to 3rd degree murder but was denied the plea by the DA?
Are you suggesting that he was obligated to? A DA with a weak case will almost always bargain. The stronger the case the less likely they are to deal. You may not like the system. You may even have good reason, but it isn't something new. Or something special for this case.
Bazbo
Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
Steve Schleicher, one of four attorneys on the prosecuting team against former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, made his closing argument Monday. Much like the rest of his team's case, it relied on a fantasy about what actually happened the day that G****e F***d died.
It's sort of ironic. Schleicher kept telling the jury over and over again that it was Chauvin's lawyer who was introducing "hypotheticals that don't apply," that there's a video that gives them all the reason they need to deliver a conviction. But it's Schleicher and the prosecution hoping the jury will imagine an alternate reality.
This fact is nowhere more evident than in the prosecution having brought in a parade of medical professionals, none of whom ever examined Floyd's body, to dream up a cause of death that contradicts the word of the only person who did examine Floyd's body.
The autopsy, conducted by Hennepin County medical examiner Dr. Andrew Baker, showed that Floyd died of a heart attack that was triggered by lethal amounts of drugs in his system and stress from the police restraint.
Yes, Floyd was pressed to the ground for close to 10 minutes after an absurdly long struggle with police. Chauvin had his leg against Floyd's upper-back and neck area to prevent him from moving as an angry crowd circled the scene. And yet Baker found no evidence of asphyxiation. There was nothing about asphyxiation in his report. He maintained during his testimony that Floyd died of a heart attack and that if police had not been involved, he would have otherwise concluded that he died of an overdose.
But what Baker did find remarkable was that despite Floyd having been held to the ground, there was no bruising or injury to his neck or tracheal pipe. He testified that he doesn't usually document findings that are normal unless it would be worth knowing that they are, in fact, normal. Knowing that Floyd had been held to the ground, a reasonable person might expect at least some mark to his neck. But Baker found nothing and was sure to make note of it.
With that information, what has the prosecution done? Why, they found doctors to say the exact opposite!
Pay no attention to the veteran medical examiner with a professional history that no one takes exception with. Listen to all these other people who weren't there, didn't see Floyd's body, and have no direct relation to the case at all, other than that they're being paid by the prosecuting team (the state) to be there.
In addition to concocting a theory about Floyd suffocating to death, Schleicher is also hoping that the jury watches the video of the crowd that gathered round Chauvin and sees not a very obviously hostile mob but instead a staid and concerned group of citizens.
Here's a sample of what that gathering of docile passersby were yelling on that day in 2020:
— "He's a f---ing bum, bro."
— "He's enjoying that s---."
— "You f---ing bum."
— "It's the w****s. They love messing with us."
— "I'm not scared of you, bro."
— "You're a f---ing p---y-ass dude."
I suspect that's not what comes to mind when we think about a peaceful assembly.
Schleicher and the prosecution pretend that the plain facts are on their side. They're not, and that's why they've tried to paint for the jury a completely different reality than the one they're living in.
Steve Schleicher, one of four attorneys on the pro... (
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This is deep fried BS. ANY force applied after the man is face down on the pavement with his hands cuffed behind his back is excessive, no matter what led up to that moment. Even harsh language is excessive, let alone a knee applied to the neck.
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