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Apr 10, 2021 11:34:39   #
gsmith051 Loc: Fairfield Glade, TN
 
Look forward to seeing the results of your work.

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Apr 10, 2021 11:48:53   #
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SuperflyTNT wrote:
Not the exact same location though.

Oh that ol debbel moon .....

Like most details it’s beside the point.
The Point being that “Supermoon Fever” is rather pointless. Acoarst your detail is correct ... but very likely of no impact.

Somebody should have warned the OP that last month’s rehearsal won’t match this month’s composition. Details ? His foreground subject is five miles out, so no parallax adjustment by moving the camera just a few yards sideways.

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Apr 10, 2021 11:50:17   #
Craigdca Loc: California
 
ssymeono wrote:
ELNikkor: I drive for an hour....

I am curious: I tried twice during last full moon using the same 1000 lens and TC-14B on the Nikon D500. The moon fits tightly into the frame with this setup. BUT: the images were not sharp even though I used a tripod and remote control. I used speeds from a low 320 to a high 640. I wondered whether it was the wind or that I was photographing when the moon was low in the horizon and there was too much haze. could it be that the lens is not sharp?? I shouldn't use the TC-14B?
Are your image sharp?
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ELNikkor: I drive for an hour.... br br I am curi... (show quote)


I’d suggest trying different apertures to discover the sharpest setting for your camera and use the mirror up option. Faster shutter speeds may also help as the moon is in motion. Set the tripod to its lowest position for greater stability. I also found that it seems sharper when it’s overhead since there’s less atmospheric interference.

Hopefully you’re comfortable with using RAW format as you almost always need to increase sharpness in post processing.

I wish you the best!

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Apr 10, 2021 12:35:56   #
Dr.Nikon Loc: Honolulu Hawaii
 
Could be all of the above ....did you do any processing or is this straight out of the camera ..?

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Apr 10, 2021 12:43:59   #
Real Nikon Lover Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
ronichas wrote:
I have always found it very sad & frustrating with the negativity on this site.... If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything


I couldn't agree more. The varying degree of experienced photographers here is as diverse as the universe. Encourage, tactfully educate, kill 'em with kindness, lead by example. I am thankful for the many "Mature Photographers" here who patiently write daily with helpful historical and technical aspects of photography. Often stuff you cannot find in videos or todays books.

Cheers to happy threads on UHH.

Jim

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Apr 10, 2021 13:15:33   #
hj Loc: Florida
 
ronichas wrote:
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No plan. Supermoons look exactly like regular moons, but 5% to 10% bigger depending on your frame of reference.
If your planned shot is blocked by the weather you can always try again next month. Same moon, same rocks.)

I have always found it very sad & frustrating with the negativity on this site. Just because you are not interested in shooting the supermoon, do you really have to comment to those who are interested?

Best not to say anything if you are not interested in this conversation.

Maybe you have shot the moon before, maybe not. Why do you have to post a negative comment for others who might want to shoot it.

*If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything*
(User ID br No plan. Supermoons look exactly like ... (show quote)


I don't consider the reponse by ronichas to be negative. He wasn't ugly, just responding to say he would not shoot the supermoon... why? Because it is pretty much the same as any other.... as I have noticed with all the other "special" moons sited all year. He stated a valid fact in a polite manner. I'd say you are more negative by criticizing his response.

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Apr 10, 2021 13:22:28   #
Dr.Nikon Loc: Honolulu Hawaii
 
Could be all of the above ....did you do any processing or is this straight out of the camera ..? If you use a lens that’s not sharp and add a T -14 ... you will make it worse .., I don’t know about your lens ...so I can’t comment ..I can tell you that Mirror UP .. electronic remote ..extremely sturdy tripod or sand bags hanging from the center / NO center columns, don’t even put it up .. about as straight up as you can get to shoot through as least amount of atmosphere as possible is a must starting point.

An easy trick I use ..get the set up on “Live View” center the moon and see how much vibration/movement you can observe , on a windless nite you can blow on the end of your lens and see the moon move on the live view .., it is that touchy ‘ sensitive ...

If you have the rock solid camera / lens / tripod covered .., simple setting ..using manual of course ...start with f11 ... and start bracketing .. using single point auto focus , if using manual focus ..use live view to focus ... 100 .. 150 .. 250 .. f/8 and different bracketing of speeds ..heck ..digital ...shoot away it doesn’t cost anymore to take 100 shots or 10 ..

Remember .. full moon will not garner as much moon/crater detail as a 1/2.. 1/3 ... 1/4th moon ...the sharpest moon I have seen without a telescope used with a camera is the one posted by “REGIS” Hand Held ....his camera and lens combo is exceptional .. my moon shots come in a close 2nd or 3rd on this blog so I know ...

Again ..I don’t know anything about your tripod (I never use a center column) or your 1000 lens , so I can’t comment on that ...I do know I tested my old D7100 using a 200-500 5.6 shooting at a 45 degree horizon angle of a 1/2 moon in my brothers front yard with street and fence lights on .., just to show my brother how good my D7100 was that I was selling him ..., the results ..one of the clearest moon shots on the hog ...so my techniques do work ... Good Luck ..

As a footnote .. I sure miss the post from REGIS ...

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Apr 10, 2021 13:29:07   #
ssymeono Loc: St. Louis, Missouri
 
Craigdca wrote:
I’d suggest trying different apertures to discover the sharpest setting for your camera and use the mirror up option. Faster shutter speeds may also help as the moon is in motion. Set the tripod to its lowest position for greater stability. I also found that it seems sharper when it’s overhead since there’s less atmospheric interference.

Hopefully you’re comfortable with using RAW format as you almost always need to increase sharpness in post processing.

I wish you the best!


I would love to see your moon photos with the 1000mm lens.

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Apr 10, 2021 13:31:58   #
Dr.Nikon Loc: Honolulu Hawaii
 
Could be all of the above ....did you do any processing or is this straight out of the camera ..? If you use a lens that’s not sharp and add a T -14 ... you will make it worse .., I don’t know about your lens ...so I can’t comment ..I can tell you that Mirror UP .. electronic remote ..extremely sturdy tripod or sand bags hanging from the center / NO center columns, don’t even put it up .. about as straight up as you can get to shoot through as least amount of atmosphere as possible is a must starting point.

An easy trick I use ..get the set up on “Live View” center the moon and see how much vibration/movement you can observe , on a windless nite you can blow on the end of your lens and see the moon move on the live view .., it is that touchy ‘ sensitive ...

If you have the rock solid camera / lens / tripod covered .., simple setting ..using manual of course ...start with f11 ... and start bracketing .. using single point auto focus , if using manual focus ..use live view to focus ... 100 .. 150 .. 250 .. f/8 and different bracketing of speeds ..heck ..digital ...shoot away it doesn’t cost anymore to take 100 shots or 10 ..

Remember .. full moon will not garner as much moon/crater detail as a 1/2.. 1/3 ... 1/4th moon ...the sharpest moon I have seen without a telescope used with a camera is the one posted by “REGIS” Hand Held ....his camera and lens combo is exceptional .. my moon shots come in a close 2nd or 3rd on this blog so I know ...

Again ..I don’t know anything about your tripod (I never use a center column) or your 1000 lens , so I can’t comment on that ...I do know I tested my old D7100 using a 200-500 5.6 shooting at a 45 degree horizon angle of a 1/2 moon in my brothers front yard with street and fence lights on .., just to show my brother how good my D7100 was that I was selling him ..., the results ..one of the clearest moon shots on the hog ...so my techniques do work ... Good Luck ..

As a footnote .. I sure miss the post from REGIS ...

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Apr 10, 2021 13:54:06   #
Tom70 Loc: NY
 
thanks for the info, will be traveling but if the sky is clear I can always pull off the road

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Apr 10, 2021 14:08:37   #
Dr.Nikon Loc: Honolulu Hawaii
 
Dr.Nikon wrote:
Could be all of the above ....did you do any processing or is this straight out of the camera ..? If you use a lens that’s not sharp and add a T -14 ... you will make it worse .., I don’t know about your lens ...so I can’t comment ..I can tell you that Mirror UP .. electronic remote ..extremely sturdy tripod or sand bags hanging from the center / NO center columns, don’t even put it up .. about as straight up as you can get to shoot through as least amount of atmosphere as possible is a must starting point.

An easy trick I use ..get the set up on “Live View” center the moon and see how much vibration/movement you can observe , on a windless nite you can blow on the end of your lens and see the moon move on the live view .., it is that touchy ‘ sensitive ...

If you have the rock solid camera / lens / tripod covered .., simple setting ..using manual of course ...start with f11 ... and start bracketing .. using single point auto focus , if using manual focus ..use live view to focus ... 100 .. 150 .. 250 .. f/8 and different bracketing of speeds ..heck ..digital ...shoot away it doesn’t cost anymore to take 100 shots or 10 ..

Remember .. full moon will not garner as much moon/crater detail as a 1/2.. 1/3 ... 1/4th moon ...the sharpest moon I have seen without a telescope used with a camera is the one posted by “REGIS” Hand Held ....his camera and lens combo is exceptional .. my moon shots come in a close 2nd or 3rd on this blog so I know ...

Again ..I don’t know anything about your tripod (I never use a center column) or your 1000 lens , so I can’t comment on that ...I do know I tested my old D7100 using a 200-500 5.6 shooting at a 45 degree horizon angle of a 1/2 moon in my brothers front yard with street and fence lights on .., just to show my brother how good my D7100 was that I was selling him ..., the results ..one of the clearest moon shots on the hog ...so my techniques do work ... I have excluded D7100 and D7200 1/2 moon shots I didn’t include my D850 shots all three cameras using the Nikon 200-500 5.6 , ..... Good Luck ..

As a footnote .. I sure miss the post from REGIS ...
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Apr 10, 2021 18:36:15   #
Basil Loc: New Mexico
 
I’ve done that too, but want to try a shot based on reality and planning.

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Apr 10, 2021 19:25:24   #
Craigdca Loc: California
 
ssymeono wrote:
I would love to see your moon photos with the 1000mm lens.


I use an 80-400mm lens with no image stabilization on a Canon T2i with 18MP 1.6x crop format sensor. Keep in mind that these samples are low res but you should still open the download link.


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Apr 10, 2021 21:04:54   #
Basil Loc: New Mexico
 
User ID wrote:
Oh that ol debbel moon .....

Like most details it’s beside the point.
The Point being that “Supermoon Fever” is rather pointless. Acoarst your detail is correct ... but very likely of no impact.

Somebody should have warned the OP that last month’s rehearsal won’t match this month’s composition. Details ? His foreground subject is five miles out, so no parallax adjustment by moving the camera just a few yards sideways.


Gee, thanks for the warning. Fact is, I have not rehearsed anything with respect to these shots, so there was no "last months rehearsal" involved. For planning, I am using Photopills to plan the shot (actually two shots). One shot will be of moonrise against a specific rock formation. The second shot will be moonset (the following morning) against a completely different rock formation 3 hours away. I have already made a site survey to the first location to determine (with the help of Photopills) the exact location, focal length, etc., that I want to use. I'm well aware that at the distance I'll be from subject, any adjustments to parallax would require jumping in the car an moving a good distance, not just moving a few yards. That's the beauty of PhotoPills - you can determine ahead of time exacty where you want to be standing to get the moon at the precise location and height relative to the subject that you want, then the pre-shoot site survey allows you to use AR on Photopills and make any adjustments to location ahead of time.

I always go to the location ahead of time and use Augmented Reality to verify the best location. That's what I did (below) to get the Milkyway core above Cabazon Peak.

I was hoping to get a couple of full moon shots with specific backdrops and since there happens to be a Supermoon, why not shot that? Would I do this shoot if it were a regular full moon? Yes, I'd still be trying these particular shots even if it were a regular full moon.

I agree there isn't that much difference between a Supermoon compared to any other full moon other than at a given focal length the size of the moon relative to the foreground object will be slightly larger. Is it a big deal? no, but so what.

Peace



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Apr 10, 2021 21:07:23   #
Basil Loc: New Mexico
 
gsmith051 wrote:
Look forward to seeing the results of your work.


Thanks. I'm hoping to get two different shots - one at moonrise against a certain rock formation, then drive 3 hours northwest and get a moonset shot against a different formation the following morning.

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