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Apr 5, 2021 16:20:42   #
PhotogHobbyist Loc: Bradford, PA
 
Joecosentino wrote:
I learned how to clean sensors after going through 6 bodies the year the Nikon d 600 was introduced. Anyway now the new z cameras have in body stabilization to me tha means these sensors are mounted on some form of a gyro.

I am looking for opinions on cleaning your own mirrorless sensor. I would think it would be easy to knock this system out of calibration.

Any thoughts?
Thanks
Joe Cosentino


I do not own a MILC but have owned four Pentax DSLRs all which had in body stabilization. I have used the wet swab type of sensor cleaning on each of them with no problem of any kind. If you follow the cleaning instructions with a light touch, I would guess there would be no problems for you either.

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Apr 5, 2021 16:22:54   #
Canisdirus
 
tcthome wrote:
Yup. I thought IBIS is something you can turn on & off. No?


Yes, you can turn it on or off.
I suppose LR is giving a very general statement with no particular brand in mind.

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Apr 5, 2021 17:13:57   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Joecosentino wrote:
I learned how to clean sensors after going through 6 bodies the year the Nikon d 600 was introduced. Anyway now the new z cameras have in body stabilization to me tha means these sensors are mounted on some form of a gyro.

I am looking for opinions on cleaning your own mirrorless sensor. I would think it would be easy to knock this system out of calibration.

Any thoughts?
Thanks
Joe Cosentino


Shouldn't be an issue, how rough do you get?

I have four Pentax Cameras with IBIS, a K-100, K-20, K-5, K-3. The K-5 and K-3 also have ultrasonic sensor cleaning so ideally should rarely need cleaning. And the artificial AA effect is also provided by the sensor shaker in the K-3. All but once I have cleaned my own cameras. But as I recall the Nikon D600 had oil spatter problems so perhaps you needed to clean them often. IBIS is I would think in all cameras with it is fairly stable since they can provide up to about 5 stops stability. Perhaps not Nikon's less than Pro D5 cameras, but Pentax cameras are built like tanks. One reason many repair shops hate to work on them as they are hard to disassemble!

That being said, I would imagine some Nikon Z owners will inform you of their cleaning experiences.

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Apr 5, 2021 17:43:48   #
Bonsai123 Loc: Puerto Rico
 
Fuji XH1 have image stabilization and I clean my sensor just fine no problem at all

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Apr 5, 2021 17:45:13   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
Joecosentino wrote:
I learned how to clean sensors after going through 6 bodies the year the Nikon d 600 was introduced. Anyway now the new z cameras have in body stabilization to me tha means these sensors are mounted on some form of a gyro.

I am looking for opinions on cleaning your own mirrorless sensor. I would think it would be easy to knock this system out of calibration.

Any thoughts?
Thanks
Joe Cosentino


If the camera is off it’s ok, I think....

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Apr 5, 2021 18:53:20   #
Murray Loc: New Westminster
 
camerapapi wrote:
"The 610 fixed the issue but not before many folks lost faith in Nikon as a brand."

I have a friend who bought a Mercedes and it was a lemon believe it or not. The dealer fixed the problems for him and the car has performed, well, as a Mercedes is supposed to. He did not loose his faith in the quality of the Mercedes brand.

Nikon has done exactly the same with the D600. If an owner had the oil splash on the sensor the camera was repaired or exchanged for free for a D610. Anything wrong with that? I in particular would have lost faith if Nikon had refused to fix those cameras.
Cameras and lenses at times have flows but if the manufacturer honors the warranty I do not see why loosing faith in that particular company or product. After those D600 were repaired with a new shutter no further problems were reported and those owning the camera were as happy as always.

By the way, I did not read or heard about reports anywhere saying that because of the D600 issues photographers were leaving Nikon.
"The 610 fixed the issue but not before many ... (show quote)
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Apr 5, 2021 22:35:59   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
Joecosentino wrote:
I learned how to clean sensors after going through 6 bodies the year the Nikon d 600 was introduced. Anyway now the new z cameras have in body stabilization to me tha means these sensors are mounted on some form of a gyro.

I am looking for opinions on cleaning your own mirrorless sensor. I would think it would be easy to knock this system out of calibration.

Any thoughts?
Thanks
Joe Cosentino


I have two, Sony a6500 and a7r3 and have cleaned both a few times with no ill-effects. I use wet swabs and don't put much pressure on it. I haven't detected any movement of the sensor during cleaning. Just be gentle.

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Apr 6, 2021 01:15:39   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Joecosentino wrote:
I learned how to clean sensors after going through 6 bodies the year the Nikon d 600 was introduced. Anyway now the new z cameras have in body stabilization to me tha means these sensors are mounted on some form of a gyro.

I am looking for opinions on cleaning your own mirrorless sensor. I would think it would be easy to knock this system out of calibration.

Any thoughts?
Thanks
Joe Cosentino


Nikon cops out by telling you not to do it.

My Z6 doesn’t work to shake clean on shutdown. My Z 50 doesn’t even have shake clean (but also not IBIS so I can wet clean it).

So you are left with a rocket blower which is mostly ineffective.

I also use the Arctic Butterfly on my Z6.

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Apr 6, 2021 01:30:31   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Brucej67 wrote:
When powering off the Z cameras the sensor is locked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh4osyOfgJ4


Good video. Not sure his assertion about IBIS locking is true.

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Apr 6, 2021 07:24:38   #
aikiboy
 
Try asking the question on whichever forum on DPReview covers your camera, as it is possible the answer varies by brand.

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