Denoise to DNG or JPG
Mar 28, 2021 13:30:27 #
Searched the Denoise topics, did not see anything revelant. When using Topaz Denoise or Sharpen first on a RAW file, it by default saves to a DNG, a 140M size file. If changed to save as a JPG, does that then greatly limit the amount of work can be done on it afterwards in LR or PS? If so, is there a better file type other than DNG (PNG, TIF) to save in. At my 'advanced age' and using zoom lens, my pics all seem to need a little help from Topaz. Was wondering what other UHH'ers who use Topaz have found. Thanks.
Mar 28, 2021 13:37:40 #
buckscop wrote:
Searched the Denoise topics, did not see anything ... (show quote)
A DNG is just Adobe's format for RAW with the Adobe edit information wrapped around the read-only RAW image data. This 'edit information' are the PS layers and / or the LR edits and some third-parties that support the DNG format. You'd give up this edit information and lessen your future editing by dropping to an 8-bit JPEG. The PNG doesn't give you anything better. A TIFF is useful only if it's the TIF format that retains the edit info. Test it, I think you'll find the TIFF is even bigger.
You might look at your shooting technique. Why are your images containing so much noise? Are there opportunities in the camera that are more impactful than post processing?
Mar 28, 2021 13:39:51 #
If you have further editing to do you're better saving to a lossless format - which excludes jpg. DNG, PNG and TIFF are all lossless formats and of those, DNG is most likely to be the most compact.
Mar 29, 2021 10:00:16 #
Why not use it as a Photoshop plug in during your editing process and save the final result in whatever format you like?
Mar 29, 2021 10:15:17 #
kymarto wrote:
Why not use it as a Photoshop plug in during your editing process and save the final result in whatever format you like?
Or if you have LR/PS use the plugin directly from LR with result back in LR.
OR
LR>PS>plugin>PS>LR
Mar 29, 2021 11:28:20 #
If you decide to go the Topaz route (and I’m not suggesting you need to), check Anthony Morganti’s YouTube review of the latest version 3.0.2. He was less than thrilled. 👎
Mar 29, 2021 12:06:47 #
petercbrandt
Loc: New York City, Manhattan
Jpg is a compressed file, so you loose something. Uncompressed files like .psd or .tiff keep most info. Tiff is used for litho printing like in the advertising business. I admitt I do not know more about dng, which is the file that screen captures come in.
Peter
Peter
Mar 29, 2021 12:37:51 #
kymarto wrote:
Why not use it as a Photoshop plug in during your editing process and save the final result in whatever format you like?
Works very nicely in this fashion in both Photoshop and Lightroom, as well as Affinity Photo!
bwa
Mar 29, 2021 13:20:39 #
Morganti may have a bone to pick with Topaz. I have spoken with at least three (3)image makers that are more than thrilled with the latest version of Topaz Sharpening AI (v3).
Regarding further PP, you have two options:
1.plugin from Photoshop or Lr
2.save to a lossless format like TIFF (8 bit)
Regarding further PP, you have two options:
1.plugin from Photoshop or Lr
2.save to a lossless format like TIFF (8 bit)
Mar 29, 2021 13:41:29 #
What I do is save in PNG for printing then resave that in JPG, often time in 50% compression, for sharing online. I'm 87 but this is not too much for me.
Mar 29, 2021 13:55:51 #
Guzser02 wrote:
Morganti may have a bone to pick with Topaz. I have spoken with at least three (3)image makers that are more than thrilled with the latest version of Topaz Sharpening AI (v3).
Regarding further PP, you have two options:
1.plugin from Photoshop or Lr
2.save to a lossless format like TIFF (8 bit)
Regarding further PP, you have two options:
1.plugin from Photoshop or Lr
2.save to a lossless format like TIFF (8 bit)
'TIFF (8 bit)' is NOT lossless. TIFF (16 bit) is.
bwa
Mar 29, 2021 14:00:07 #
Tiff is uncompressed, but saves a much more limited number of chroma and luma steps when saved as 8 bit. Personally I always save my finished images as 16 bit, in order to be able to go back and adjust light and color as needed for different applications.
Mar 29, 2021 19:10:45 #
Mar 29, 2021 20:52:45 #
Ednsb
Loc: Santa Barbara
47greyfox wrote:
If you decide to go the Topaz route (and I’m not suggesting you need to), check Anthony Morganti’s YouTube review of the latest version 3.0.2. He was less than thrilled. 👎
Me too! Totally hosed it AGAIN! Morgani got it right. Much worse than previous version. Twice as slow. And Sharpen even worse as it won’t even work at all. Tired of being an unpaid alpha tester. Not even Beta!
Mar 29, 2021 22:16:25 #
I beg to differ. Anthony Morganti is not someone I would turn to for either technical or aesthetic advise on image-making.
I'm running both Topaz DeNoise AI and Sharpen AI and I see an improvement.
I'm running both Topaz DeNoise AI and Sharpen AI and I see an improvement.
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