Nalu
Loc: Southern Arizona
Using Sony as an example, wouldn't you expect to see a difference between a $13,000 600 prime vs. a $2,000 equivalent 200-600 zoom on the same body. Well, yes, from a technical perspective. But does that say that a award winning photos cannot be made with the lower cost lens. The answer to that questions is definitely "no".
There is a lot more to making great photos than the comparative technical attributes of a zoom vs a prime IMO.
Primes require you to set up the shot even before you put the lens on the camera so it’s reasonable to conclude that the composition would be better quality overall. Some of the variables that lead to poor quality could be limited ahead of time.
SteveR wrote:
have all been shot with prime lenses. There are a few photographers that I know who take great photos who I wish shot with primes.
You'd be very sorry if you took a few primes instead of one good zoom if you went to Africa - and any number of other places I can think of.
The BEST IMAGES? Again we are technicians. The best images are made by the photographer. Ansel Adams, did he have great equipment? Let's discuss the lens he used, wasn't a zoom, didn't have them, OK, what brand of film did he use, or what brand of paper?
Is Photography as technology? An art? Or a combination?
A good photograph is one that communicates the ISO, megapixels and brand.
All primes would be ideal, but I have neither the cash to invist in them, nor the physical stamina to carry them around.
CHG_CANON wrote:
A good photograph is one that communicates the ISO, megapixels and brand.
What? You could communicate that and still be a poor photo.
DebAnn wrote:
You'd be very sorry if you took a few primes instead of one good zoom if you went to Africa - and any number of other places I can think of.
If you have to carry all of your equipment by yourself, I'd agree. However, I might take the 500 fl.
Bill, this is the lens that Abi suggest to me, considering that I am not a professional photographer like she is. I understand that it's very hard to get.
User ID wrote:
You could go to Steve’s profile and browse his posts. I did. I’ll make no further attempts at intelligent open minded discourse with him :-(
Cool. Kind of expected from you.
billnikon wrote:
If this has been your experience then you have not seen enough great photo's. The debate between with is sharper, a zoom or prime, has been going on for a long time. Nikon's first mass produced consumer zoom lens, the 43-86? was a dog. But todays zooms hold their own very well, for instance, I own and use three zooms for Florida Wildlife photography, the Nikon 200-400 f4, and the Sony 200-600 are both exceptionally sharp zoom lenses. I also own the Sony and Nikon 600 f4 prime lenses.
To be honest, I do not see much if any difference in sharpness between the Sony 200-600 and the Sony 600 prime.
If used properly by a competent photographer, zoom lenses produce excellent results. I have won several best in shows using zoom lenses.
The argument can be summed up this way, it's the photographer that makes the difference, not exactly the lens. IMHO, both my zoom and prime have produced excellent results.
To pigeon hole or delegate zoom lenses to a lesser status than primes today is just not taking into account the excellent results obtained by zooms.
Below is an old shot of mine using my Nikon D4s and a Nikon 200-400 f4 lens. It has won local and state competitions and remains one of my older stock images that sells well over the years.
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My Canon 100-400 ll lens works for me too. Great is really hard to describe and is different for every person.
SteveR wrote:
have all been shot with prime lenses. There are a few photographers that I know who take great photos who I wish shot with primes.
You surely mean historically. Photos by famous photographers whose images are in books and hung in museums are yes, probably all shot with Prime lenses. The photographers who I think of as the masters. But I am sure some contemporary art photographers my use Zoom lenses as well.
Yes, zoom lenses have vastly improved over the last several decades. I rarely touch my old vintage Zooms at all, but the ones from the last Ten years are great. For practical purposes very close to primes for many uses. Not great for macro or close-up.
Though, I do not agree with some people on the issue of cost. I have a lot of prime glass and most of them cost far less than any zoom lens. One can find bargains on used lenses, especially vintage or common models. New lenses these days are pricey.
Peter Turnley who is a world renowned photographer says sharpness is a bourgeois thing. If you don't capture the moment because you are so concerned about the quality of the photo it becomes irrelevant.
Art is a major distraction from the technology of photography.
Tell me which prime lens will replace my Canon 100-400 II??
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