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Mar 31, 2021 09:39:49   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
DennyT wrote:
Sensitive arent you. I was not even replying to. You!!


As you should know by now everyone on this forum has the right to answer just about any question they want. Get used to it.

Dennis

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Mar 31, 2021 09:59:50   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
dennis2146 wrote:
As you should know by now everyone on this forum has the right to answer just about any question they want. Get used to it.

Dennis



Really Denise ?. You the one that on numerous occasions chastise posters for not properly using quotes to reply to individuals .

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Mar 31, 2021 10:15:39   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
DennyT wrote:
Really Denise ?. You the one that on numerous occasions chastise posters for not properly using quotes to reply to individuals .


We are talking apples and oranges here. It is truly amazing that I should need to explain this to you since you have been here long enough.

One thing I am talking is about clicking on, Quote Reply, when answering somebody else. That lets us all know who you are SPECIFICALLY talking to. You still do not do that and you should. That is what I am talking about when you reference that above when I say to use quotes. It isn't quotes of course but, Quote Reply.

The second thing is that anybody on the forum can and does answer for everybody else when they choose to enter that part of the conversation. Are you not able to admit that we all do it all the time. Everyone here does it and yet you decided to chastise me for doing it. Why, because you don't like or understand what I said. Get over yourself. If you are unable to handle the stress of The Attic then you are free to leave.

Dennis

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Mar 31, 2021 10:21:37   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
In reality Biden is also ( like trump) not following the i*********n l*w.
I have posted before( and provided a reference that stated anyone can enter America anytime anywhere and request asylum.
Biden is not doing that in that he is immediately turning back adults and group such as families that don’t have kids if a certain age even though they are asking for asylum.
He like trump is doing this under the guise of title 42.

Nothing has really changed .

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Mar 31, 2021 20:23:31   #
InfiniteISO Loc: The Carolinas, USA
 
DennyT wrote:
I have thought about this and unfortunately there no one answer that fits all.
Many jobs done by immigrants ( service jobs fir example ) yes Americans would take them but not as a Permanent job.

Migrant labor jobs I say no America’s won’t, I can t see Americans picking cabbage in 90 degree weather. I don’t think Americans would take labor intensive jobs even at the poverty level .

It is my opinion and mine only that America has lost its work ethic . That started long ago with the disappearanc of subsistence farms and grew as mass manufacturing took over in America.
I have thought about this and unfortunately there ... (show quote)


I just got a roof put on my house yesterday. When I moved into my house in 1998, I purchased a roof for around $4800. I remember it being just shy of 5 grand. Yesterday the roofing portion of my job ( it got gutters too) was quoted at $6900. That's an increase of just under 50%. Oil prices adjusted for inflation are about 3 times higher today than they were in 1998. The crude oil price affects shingle prices. The general inflation rate between 1998 and now is 67-ish percent. The NC minimum wage in 1998 was $5.15, it's now $7.25.

Both jobs were hand-hammered, both stripped the prior roof, both jobs replaced a couple of sheets of plywood, etc. Plywood, by the way, is outrageously priced today. The shingles I put on yesterday are much better and more expensive than what I put on in 1998. My point? My roof yesterday should have cost a lot more.

Now here is the difference. Only one person on my crew yesterday spoke English. I don't like to generalize, but they all looked like Mexican nationals. The guy who quoted my job was white. He came out in the morning for a few minutes and brought them lunch in the afternoon. When the crew arrived he pointed out the guy on the crew that would understand me and told me if I had any concerns he couldn't answer to call him. They did an excellent job.

The job in 1998 was done by a family roofing company, all white. They also did an excellent job.

My guess is that most of yesterday's crew was making close to minimum wage. The guys in 1998 were not. It is possible that some of the guys yesterday were working for cash. I have no idea how you would pull that off long term so I'm just going to assume everything about this company was legit.

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Mar 31, 2021 21:47:16   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
dennis2146 wrote:
We are talking apples and oranges here. It is truly amazing that I should need to explain this to you since you have been here long enough.

One thing I am talking is about clicking on, Quote Reply, when answering somebody else. That lets us all know who you are SPECIFICALLY talking to. You still do not do that and you should. That is what I am talking about when you reference that above when I say to use quotes. It isn't quotes of course but, Quote Reply.

The second thing is that anybody on the forum can and does answer for everybody else when they choose to enter that part of the conversation. Are you not able to admit that we all do it all the time. Everyone here does it and yet you decided to chastise me for doing it. Why, because you don't like or understand what I said. Get over yourself. If you are unable to handle the stress of The Attic then you are free to leave.

Dennis
We are talking apples and oranges here. It is tru... (show quote)


You must find trying to be superior quite frustrating.

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Mar 31, 2021 21:52:11   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
InfiniteISO wrote:
I just got a roof put on my house yesterday. When I moved into my house in 1998, I purchased a roof for around $4800. I remember it being just shy of 5 grand. Yesterday the roofing portion of my job ( it got gutters too) was quoted at $6900. That's an increase of just under 50%. Oil prices adjusted for inflation are about 3 times higher today than they were in 1998. The crude oil price affects shingle prices. The general inflation rate between 1998 and now is 67-ish percent. The NC minimum wage in 1998 was $5.15, it's now $7.25.

Both jobs were hand-hammered, both stripped the prior roof, both jobs replaced a couple of sheets of plywood, etc. Plywood, by the way, is outrageously priced today. The shingles I put on yesterday are much better and more expensive than what I put on in 1998. My point? My roof yesterday should have cost a lot more.

Now here is the difference. Only one person on my crew yesterday spoke English. I don't like to generalize, but they all looked like Mexican nationals. The guy who quoted my job was white. He came out in the morning for a few minutes and brought them lunch in the afternoon. When the crew arrived he pointed out the guy on the crew that would understand me and told me if I had any concerns he couldn't answer to call him. They did an excellent job.

The job in 1998 was done by a family roofing company, all white. They also did an excellent job.

My guess is that most of yesterday's crew was making close to minimum wage. The guys in 1998 were not. It is possible that some of the guys yesterday were working for cash. I have no idea how you would pull that off long term so I'm just going to assume everything about this company was legit.
I just got a roof put on my house yesterday. Whe... (show quote)


$6900 for a roof? How small is the house?

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Apr 1, 2021 00:53:41   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
thom w wrote:
$6900 for a roof? How small is the house?


He does not live in California.

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Apr 1, 2021 01:46:33   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
thom w wrote:
Perhaps you could repost the post where DennyT started the name calling.


Sure thing:
DennyT wrote:
Thank you Denise and what would they decent wage be? The national minimum ?? The national poverty level ?

Tell us( in less tan 100 words please )


Page 13 of the discussion.

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Apr 1, 2021 01:58:49   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
DennyT wrote:
Oh you now consider using the word Denise name calling???


Yep. And you KNOW it is name-calling, even if you will not publicly admit it.

Of course it might be excusable if you are just unable to spell “Dennis”. It is actually pretty easy: [upper case key] “D”. “e”. “n”. “n”. “i”. “s”.

See? That was not too hard, right?

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Apr 1, 2021 02:12:29   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
thom w wrote:
So, you also believe one can reach down, grab their bootstraps, and lift their self, if they just work hard enough? Perhaps you could demonstrate in a video.


The phrase “pulling themselves up by their bootstraps” is considered to be a “physically impossible” thing. It obviously does not get a person off-the-ground. This is regarded as a joke about persons dumb enough to think they can somehow ignore physical reality.

An alternative interpretation is that of “working hard and pulling themselves up out of poverty or similar poor conditions”. This is a commonly used and understood meaning.

So “physically” levitating by pulling bootstraps? No.
Economically levitating (or improving)? Yes

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Apr 1, 2021 09:38:39   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
thom w wrote:
You must find trying to be superior quite frustrating.


Well then princess show me where I am wrong. Is not every newcomer to UHH in every section encouraged to click on Quote Reply when answering posts by other members? Is that true or not? Is that not what I said?

Don't most posts in The Attic receive answering posts from other than who wrote the specific post? You just proved my point by jumping in to an answer I gave to someone else, didn't you?

So again waffle boy, show me where I am wrong. Maybe francine and krackhead will also jump in to help you out as they usually do which proves my point even more. Hell, get your big brother, Pee Wee Herman, to lend a hand too.

Again, don't you get tired of playing the FOOL right here in front of the rest of us?

Dennis

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Apr 1, 2021 09:41:29   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Wyantry wrote:
Yep. And you KNOW it is name-calling, even if you will not publicly admit it.

Of course it might be excusable if you are just unable to spell “Dennis”. It is actually pretty easy: [upper case key] “D”. “e”. “n”. “n”. “i”. “s”.

See? That was not too hard, right?


Don't be too hard on the little tyke. Check his other posts. He seems to have a serious spelling problem to begin with. Check out the way he spells the word, for, as, fir.

Dennis

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Apr 1, 2021 09:45:06   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Wyantry wrote:
The phrase “pulling themselves up by their bootstraps” is considered to be a “physically impossible” thing. It obviously does not get a person off-the-ground. This is regarded as a joke about persons dumb enough to think they can somehow ignore physical reality.

An alternative interpretation is that of “working hard and pulling themselves up out of poverty or similar poor conditions”. This is a commonly used and understood meaning.

So “physically” levitating by pulling bootstraps? No.
Economically levitating (or improving)? Yes
The phrase “pulling themselves up by their bootstr... (show quote)


Darn it my friend the little princess has been staying awake nights trying to figure out how people physically pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Now you have added a greater challenge for him on how to do it physically as well as economically. He won't bother to read your explanation. Well it will keep him off the streets at night. Then during the day he will be tired from remembering, Righty-Tighty, Lefty Loosey, when changing light bulbs.

I appreciate the assistance,

Dennis

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Apr 1, 2021 10:42:29   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Darn it my friend the little princess has been staying awake nights trying to figure out how people physically pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Now you have added a greater challenge for him on how to do it physically as well as economically. He won't bother to read your explanation. Well it will keep him off the streets at night. Then during the day he will be tired from remembering, Righty-Tighty, Lefty Loosey, when changing light bulbs.

I appreciate the assistance,

Dennis
Darn it my friend the little princess has been sta... (show quote)

LOL, yeah, the Q-boy crowd needs all the help they can get from the cultists.

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