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Mar 10, 2021 12:45:34   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
This video is a eye opener. China's wet markets are are horrible way for an animal to spend it's last moments of life. There are a couple of 10 second commercials in the video, but they go away very fast. This video is well worth watching.

https://biggeekdad.com/2020/03/china-wildlife-farming/

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Mar 10, 2021 15:50:17   #
Craigdca Loc: California
 
Information to consider before mislabeling C****-** as a China v***s:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-c****av***s-who-china-explaine-idUSKBN2AA0QK

A good overview regarding origins of v***ses in general, and an excerpt urging care when handling wild game:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK114494/

In our view, monitoring should focus on people with high levels of exposure to wild animals, such as h****rs, butchers of wild game, wildlife veterinarians, workers in the wildlife trade, and zoo workers. Such people regularly become infected with animal v***ses, and their infections can be monitored over time and traced to other people in contact with them. One of us (N.D.W.) has been working in Cameroon to monitor microbes in people who hunt wild game, in other people in their community, and in their animal prey.

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Mar 10, 2021 21:19:34   #
Hamltnblue Loc: Springfield PA
 
C***D is a China v***s. Came from w***n. Likely released on us.

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Mar 10, 2021 21:51:06   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
Hamltnblue wrote:
C***D is a China v***s. Came from w***n. Likely released on us.


And they can't lie their way out of it!

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Mar 10, 2021 22:17:54   #
Craigdca Loc: California
 
For your consideration:
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN27Z2QG
The Italian researchers' findings showed that 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed c****av***s antibodies well before February. If those findings are correct, scientists said it could change the history of the origin of p******c, raising questions about when and where the v***s first emerged.

May explain spread to China:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/04/16/the-chinese-workers-who-assemble-designer-bags-in-tuscany

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Mar 10, 2021 23:28:23   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
Craigdca wrote:
Information to consider before mislabeling C****-** as a China v***s:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-c****av***s-who-china-explaine-idUSKBN2AA0QK

A good overview regarding origins of v***ses in general, and an excerpt urging care when handling wild game:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK114494/

In our view, monitoring should focus on people with high levels of exposure to wild animals, such as h****rs, butchers of wild game, wildlife veterinarians, workers in the wildlife trade, and zoo workers. Such people regularly become infected with animal v***ses, and their infections can be monitored over time and traced to other people in contact with them. One of us (N.D.W.) has been working in Cameroon to monitor microbes in people who hunt wild game, in other people in their community, and in their animal prey.
Information to consider before mislabeling C****-*... (show quote)


I was just watching a video last night. In a nutshell, they said "the team member leading the investigation is closely related and supported by the chinese authorities. Hence is a very biased individual whose aim would be to protect the chinese interest."
Their claim is that the investigation of WHO, should not be trusted especially when WHO itself manipulated the information in support of chinese claims during the start of the p******c.

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Mar 10, 2021 23:35:06   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
Craigdca wrote:
For your consideration:
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN27Z2QG
The Italian researchers' findings showed that 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed c****av***s antibodies well before February. If those findings are correct, scientists said it could change the history of the origin of p******c, raising questions about when and where the v***s first emerged.

May explain spread to China:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/04/16/the-chinese-workers-who-assemble-designer-bags-in-tuscany
For your consideration: br https://mobile.reuters.... (show quote)


There are many strains of c****av***s which were named because of their characteristic crown shape.
If the report is true, the Italian researcher may be involved with a totally different strain not related to the w***n v***s as it did not k**l or infect them the way the w***n strain did.
If Italy was the root of the p******c, then Italy would have been the first p******c city but that was not the case. It was w***n.

The bag workers in my opinion is total bull. Probably being propagated just to inflict mis information and move the blame away from china.

If i recall correctly, there was an investigative report stating that china had the first case of the v***s as early as Sept. 2019.

IMHO, the origin of the v***s is secondary to the way the c*******t government of china handled the situation. They deliberately denied and manipulated the information to even putting the doctors who are trying to control it in jail. They have a lot of blood in their hands.

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Mar 11, 2021 06:21:24   #
Ollieboy
 
Retired CPO wrote:
And they can't lie their way out of it!


They don't have to. Other people will, some right here on this forum.

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Mar 11, 2021 07:29:10   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
Retired CPO wrote:
And they can't lie their way out of it!


If it were true it would be over economics.=tarriffs, trade , etc.

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Mar 11, 2021 08:17:04   #
ad9mac
 
[quote=Craigdca]Information to consider before mislabeling C****-** as a China v***s:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-c****av***s-who-china-explaine-idUSKBN2AA0QK

It originated in China, Likely from the W***n Labs .
They were trying to 'enhance' its t***smissibility. (there's a name for this, don't recall at the moment)

It got away from them. Intentional? Maybe.
US diplomats complained to our government that the Labs was ill-equipped to handle dangerous v***ses safely a couple years ago.

C***d ** is one of a family of C****av***ses.

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Mar 11, 2021 08:52:18   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Hamltnblue wrote:
C***D is a China v***s. Came from w***n. Likely released on us.


And the 1918 v***s probably originated at an army base in Kansas, but we call it the Spanish flu, although it had nothing to do with Spain. During WW I, countries involved in the war didn't want to spread any more bad news. Spain wasn't fighting, so it publicized the flu.

The problem with calling this the China v***s is that it's imprecise. Which China v***s? More than one has originated there. We give diseases specific names so we know what we're discussing.

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Mar 11, 2021 10:02:45   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
One fact that's indisputable was the Chinese government quarantined residents of W***n and wouldn't allow travel to any part of China, while at the same time exporting the v***s to all corners of the world by keeping the W***n airport open.

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Mar 11, 2021 10:03:47   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
The C****-** c****a v***s is a result of d********g dietary habits.

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Mar 11, 2021 10:04:33   #
andesbill
 
We have Chinese wet markets in this country. I used to go to one across the street from the private school I was teaching at every day (mostly for fruit for me and bok Choi for my wife). It’s a sight to be seen- live eels, turtles, fish, shrimp. It was the real deal. There are many more of these stores here, none as large as the W***n market.
BTW, patient zero didn’t get C***D19 from that wet market. He didn’t go there. He went to another W***n market.
Keep in mind, that the way we raise animals in ridiculously tight quarters, and butcher them in not clean enough factories, with ill butchers, is asking for disease spread. We too live in glass houses.

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Mar 11, 2021 10:08:45   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
andesbill wrote:
We too live in glass houses.



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