Can the camera determine picture quality? I recently upgraded from the 1D mk4 and 1Ds mk3 to a 1DX mk3. It seems to me that using the same lenses as before my lens performance and...

jim quist Loc: Missouri

I recently upgraded from the 1D mk4 and 1Ds mk3 to a 1DX mk3. It seems to me that using the same lenses as before my lens performance and picture quality has improved. The cameras have the same megapixels, but the 1DX mk3 has improved processors. Can the new processor produce a better image?

gouldopfl

The 1DX iii is a beast. The sensor and processor can produce a better image depending on the quality of the lenses. I am currently looking at a R6 using my EF glass. My current R produce as good or better quality because of the better processor. I am renting the R6 to check it out.

lev29 Loc: Born and living in MA.

jim quist wrote:

I recently upgraded from the 1D mk4 and 1Ds mk3 to a 1DX mk3. It seems to me that using the same lenses as before my lens performance and picture quality has improved. The cameras have the same megapixels, but the 1DX mk3 has improved processors. Can the new processor produce a better image?

Just replying to your question off the cuff, and mind you that I don’t keep track of any manufacturer’s camera models (other than Sony’s, to a limited extent,) why do you necessarily attribute the IQ to the camera’s processor instead of, either in part or whole, the camera’s image sensor, metering system and/or algorithm, or some other technical improvement?

Also, for those of us who haven’t bothered learning the various model numbers of the major manufacturers, it might help to refer, in this case, to the manufacturer by name, at least once in your opening statement. I realize that it probably just slipped your mind.

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jim quist Loc: Missouri

lev29 wrote:

Just replying to your question off the cuff, and m... (show quote)

My bad, it's all Canon equipment. And I don't know what to attribute the difference to.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

The high-level answer is yes. For both your 1-series bodies, you jumped 3 processor generations although your 1-series to 1-series pixel resolution has remained roughly the same around 20MP. You should see tracking improvements Canon's cutting-edge autofocus capabilities of the 1-series. But, compared to your 5DIV, your 1DXIII differences should be modest, if at all, as they share the AF system, differ on the processor by just 1-generation, and the 5DIV provides a higher pixel resolution at 30MP.

jim quist Loc: Missouri

CHG_CANON wrote:

The high-level answer is yes. For both your 1-seri... (show quote)

Thank You

pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY

gouldopfl wrote:

The 1DX iii is a beast. The sensor and processor can produce a better image depending on the quality of the lenses. I am currently looking at a R6 using my EF glass. My current R produce as good or better quality because of the better processor. I am renting the R6 to check it out.

Try the R5. :)

Delderby Loc: Derby UK

CHG_CANON says it all. However, there is something else to consider - how you get on with a particular camera. If it is ultra convenient and feels good, you might take better pictures.

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My later models certainly do better than earlier versions, all using the same pool of lenses. This remark covers 3 brands and about 15 years of tech advances.

I don’t measure resolution or any other geekish parameters. The images from later cameras definitely are cleaner and crisper looking. MP counts are all in the 16-24 range using all 3 common sizes. Advances in AF would have little to no effect as I seldom rely on AF and have NO need of “advanced performance” AF.

So it seems to me that this must be mostly attributed to processor and sensor progress, as little else has been updated ... certainly not the user :-)

Jrhoffman75 Loc: Conway, New Hampshire

Canon attributes improved image quality to a new type of anti-aliasing filter.

From the Canon white paper for the 1D X Mark III:

“What Canon has done is implement an entirely new low-pass filter concept. In the EOS-1D X Mark III, the high detail low-pass filter divides incoming light rays into 16 separate beams, not just four. This point-image separation is optimized for this image sensor, so it improves apparent detail and resolution, while simultaneously separating incoming light into eight radial directions — significantly lowering the risk of rainbow-like moiré patters, in distant repeating linear detail, or extremely fine subject patterns. In particular, risk of false colors or patterns in diagonal linear subject detail is significantly reduced (moiré is reduced to approximately 1/4th the level previously possible, without lowering visible image detail and resolution), according to Canon engineers, with this new low-pass filter.”

dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia

Jrhoffman75 wrote:

Canon attributes improved image quality to a new t... (show quote)

Don't know what a lot of that means, but it sure sounds awesome!

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Jrhoffman75 wrote:

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Sounds great as a white paper. Can you readily see it in the pictures ?

Moving from the 5D2 to the “R” version, I picked up not only more MP but also some advance to the filter as well. An “AA Effect Cancelling Filter” is added to the normal AA filter. Similar claims are made by Canon. Results fail to make a believer out of me. No harm but neither do I detect a gain.

jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ

jim quist wrote:

I recently upgraded from the 1D mk4 and 1Ds mk3 to a 1DX mk3. It seems to me that using the same lenses as before my lens performance and picture quality has improved. The cameras have the same megapixels, but the 1DX mk3 has improved processors. Can the new processor produce a better image?

I don't know about the processor, but even though the sensors are the same megapixels (or close to it), the sensors are not the same. Canon is always improving the sensors in every way especially to capture at higher ISO's with less noise. I think the processors are like the CPU in computers. The newer they are, the faster and smaller they get, improving performance.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

jim quist wrote:

Can the new processor produce a better image?

Just offhand, I would say yes. That's why Canon introduced the new processor.

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

jim quist wrote:

I recently upgraded from the 1D mk4 and 1Ds mk3 to a 1DX mk3. It seems to me that using the same lenses as before my lens performance and picture quality has improved. The cameras have the same megapixels, but the 1DX mk3 has improved processors. Can the new processor produce a better image?

Camera performance can only be maximized by a competent photographer.