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Mar 3, 2021 08:17:51   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
If it is the photographer that makes the shot but the camera or lens that takes the shot.

All your camera equipment has been destroyed in a flood and your insurance doesn't cover "acts of God".
Casper the Friendly Ghost offers you two options:

1. A camera of your choice, not to exceed $7,000 and one lens not to exceed $2500
or;
2. A camera of your choice, not to exceed $2500 and one lens not to exceed $7000.

No dodging around here, Casper is only offering two choices
If it is the photographer that i makes /i the sh... (show quote)


What is the "or" meant to indicate in your question. Photography is not one element or another. It is about all of it put together in that moment. Camera, lens, training, experience, talent. If you think it is one element or another element, you are in the wrong filed.

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Mar 3, 2021 08:36:19   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
If it is the photographer that makes the shot but the camera or lens that takes the shot.

All your camera equipment has been destroyed in a flood and your insurance doesn't cover "acts of God".
Casper the Friendly Ghost offers you two options:

1. A camera of your choice, not to exceed $7,000 and one lens not to exceed $2500
or;
2. A camera of your choice, not to exceed $2500 and one lens not to exceed $7000.

No dodging around here, Casper is only offering two choices
If it is the photographer that i makes /i the sh... (show quote)


Lenses by far are the biggest investment in the vast majority of cases. #2

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Mar 3, 2021 08:45:48   #
BuckeyeBilly Loc: St. Petersburg, FL
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
If it is the photographer that makes the shot but the camera or lens that takes the shot.

All your camera equipment has been destroyed in a flood and your insurance doesn't cover "acts of God".
Casper the Friendly Ghost offers you two options:

1. A camera of your choice, not to exceed $7,000 and one lens not to exceed $2500
or;
2. A camera of your choice, not to exceed $2500 and one lens not to exceed $7000.

No dodging around here, Casper is only offering two choices
If it is the photographer that i makes /i the sh... (show quote)


For a real world answer, look up Steve Winter, National Geographic photographer whose specialty is photographing big cats. A few years back, he had an article with photos of tigers, but the main purpose was to talk about the equipment he used. There was no manipulation of the camera and lenses used except how it was rigged inside a specially made housing. The camera? A Canon T5i. Lenses? Nothing but "L."

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Mar 3, 2021 08:52:54   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
I don't shoot wildlife, but even if I did, I would shoot other things too. I do a lot of events and my priority is low light performance. I would expect that would also be a priority for wildlife (but as I said, I'm not an expert there [not that I'm an expert much of anywhere]). So I would probably go with the body first and a couple reasonable lenses (I know you said ONE lens).

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Mar 3, 2021 08:54:28   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
If it is the photographer that makes the shot but the camera or lens that takes the shot.

All your camera equipment has been destroyed in a flood and your insurance doesn't cover "acts of God".
Casper the Friendly Ghost offers you two options:

1. A camera of your choice, not to exceed $7,000 and one lens not to exceed $2500
or;
2. A camera of your choice, not to exceed $2500 and one lens not to exceed $7000.

No dodging around here, Casper is only offering two choices
If it is the photographer that i makes /i the sh... (show quote)


Photography equipment companies make many different camera bodies but many more different lenses. So far the camera cos. are not agreeing with the folks answering your survey. Canon realizes the value of the camera is more critical than the lens and build their cameras accordingly. When I am carrying my 1 DX I am actually carrying three different cameras. Whatever lens I chose places its characteristics on each of those cameras, not vice versa. Your survey helps explain why most people do not understand the concept of "upgrade" when camera bodies are the subject. Features of cameras are far more critical to the image captured than are the features of lenses.

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Mar 3, 2021 08:56:22   #
In-lightened Loc: Kansas City
 
#2 no doubt

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Mar 3, 2021 09:11:22   #
JimBart Loc: Western Michigan
 
I’ve lived on a budget all my life and even now in retirement Curmudgeon so I’m with you.
In your case I would advise you go for the best camera that comes with a couple of kit lenses ... still classified as a camera. Then I would purchase the best long range lens for nature with the balance.
You gain 2 additional lenses plus a good system.
This is what I did with my Nikon 7100 system and added the sigma 150-600. I don’t complain on my shots a still enjoy getting out. Didn’t break the bank either

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Mar 3, 2021 09:29:31   #
Ava'sPapa Loc: Cheshire, Ct.
 
Without hesitation...#2.

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Mar 3, 2021 09:30:56   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
I’m hedging towards #2, but in reality if I had $9500 to spend it would probably be $3000 for the camera and $6500 for glass.

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Mar 3, 2021 09:35:22   #
CliffMcKenzie Loc: Lake Athens Texas
 
It is like what we learned in college. Invest in the speakers not the stereo, the stereo comes later in life...#2

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Mar 3, 2021 09:38:51   #
Jbravi
 
#2

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Mar 3, 2021 09:46:25   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
davidrb wrote:
Photography equipment companies make many different camera bodies but many more different lenses. So far the camera cos. are not agreeing with the folks answering your survey. Canon realizes the value of the camera is more critical than the lens and build their cameras accordingly. When I am carrying my 1 DX I am actually carrying three different cameras. Whatever lens I chose places its characteristics on each of those cameras, not vice versa. Your survey helps explain why most people do not understand the concept of "upgrade" when camera bodies are the subject. Features of cameras are far more critical to the image captured than are the features of lenses.
Photography equipment companies make many differen... (show quote)


????? REALLY?????
Canon has always recognized the importance of the lens!!! They are locking down the mirrorless market not because they came out with the most awesome mirrorless camera! They recognized the need to provide the most awesome mirrorless lenses first! Canon bodies have always been designed to provide specialized user needs when combined with the range of totally awesome lenses! Canon users can depend on Canon to provide the lens/body combo that will get the job done. Their motto seems to be "Make awesome flexible lenses and we can build a body for what is needed" They lock in great lenses then adapt camera design to specific uses. Not the other way around. But it only works because they produce the best lenses! Nikon is failing because they focused on camera body do-dahs and woo-hoos before lenses. Sony is now catching on, but Nikon not so much.

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Mar 3, 2021 09:49:33   #
CPR Loc: Nature Coast of Florida
 
#2 No question --with lots of money left over for travel expenses since getting to "the spot" is more than half of it!!!

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Mar 3, 2021 10:04:53   #
Drip Dry McFleye
 
I shoot a lot of bird pic's. I would choose #2. As far as cameras go, I favor a crop sensor. I shoot a Nikon D500 with either a 80-400 on it or the 500mm PF. I occasionally use a 1.4 TC with those lenses to help get out there even farther.

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Mar 3, 2021 10:30:47   #
xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
If it is the photographer that makes the shot but the camera or lens that takes the shot.

All your camera equipment has been destroyed in a flood and your insurance doesn't cover "acts of God".
Casper the Friendly Ghost offers you two options:

1. A camera of your choice, not to exceed $7,000 and one lens not to exceed $2500
or;
2. A camera of your choice, not to exceed $2500 and one lens not to exceed $7000.
Think of all the Brownies you could purchase with that budget!!!

Cheers!
No dodging around here, Casper is only offering two choices
If it is the photographer that i makes /i the sh... (show quote)

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