dvbird

Which Nikon mirrorless cameras are clear better than the D850? Which Nikon mirrorless cameras are clearly not as good as the D850? Which if any is about equal to it? And why, for what situations?

Ctrclckws

The Z7 and Z7ii are equivalent in general terms.
The Z6, Z6ii, and Z5 are full frame lower resolution cameras.
The Z50 is a crop sensor camera species about like the D7500 or D5600.

The difference is very much in the details when it comes to these cameras.

One comparison of D850 vs Z7 is here

https://photographylife.com/nikon-z-7-vs-nikon-d850

The Z7ii improved on the original by adding an SD card slot, and support for a true battery vertical grip.

Have fun researching the details.

bleirer

Something new always on the horizon. If you have a d850 you might hang on for the replacement. If you don't , the price can start to be attractive, as it always does during the mature phase of a product life cycle. It is still the current model but getting long in tooth. Still I'd happily carry one if it was gifted to me.

https://nikonrumors.com/2019/07/13/another-nikon-rumors-recap-list-of-possible-rumored-nikon-cameras.aspx/

Strodav Loc: Houston, Tx

I primarily use a D500 for wildlife / birding and D850 for everything else and have been following mirrorless for several months now. The D850, Z7 and Z7ii all use the same sensor, so no difference in resolution, ev, and very little difference in quality. The Z7ii has a better AF system than the D850 and the fps rate is higher (7fps native for the D850 to 10fps for the Z7ii, but you can get the D850 up to 10fps with a newer battery and battery pack). The electronic viewfinder in the Z7ii has advantages for everything except birds in flight (BIF) and sports as there are some blackouts between shots making it difficult to track motion. If you have AF-S Nikon glass, it will be fully functional with the FTZ adapter, but many report lower AF speeds with certain lenses. By most accounts, the Nikon mirrorless glass is superior to their dslr glass.

IF I were starting from scratch, I'd go with the Canon R5, which by all accounts, is the best digital camera ever made and the Canon mirrorless glass gets stellar reviews.

Personally, I'm waiting on Nikon announcements for D850 and D500 dslr replacements. If they really are upgrades to the D850 and D500, I'll stay with dslrs for now as I have more money in dslr glass than in 4 Nikon bodies.

OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey

Z7 if you want the MP

tcthome Loc: NJ

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IF I were starting from scratch, I'd go with the Canon R5, which by all accounts, is the best digital camera ever made and the Canon mirrorless glass gets stellar reviews.



agree. Canon R5 is the best bang for the buck if your going to purchase new mirrorless lens for the camera anyway. You could always wait until Nikon releases their new rumored cameras & wait until the reviews are out. Spec sheets & real world use can yield different results.
If your pockets are very deep, The Sony A1 seems promising if your into wildlife & low light shooting but, quite a bit more expensive. The Z7II should do everything as good as your D850 does, except sports & wildlife. The EVF is most likely better at everything except the fast continuous shooting black out.
What do you need or want from a mirrorless camera that your current camera doesn't do?

ksmmike

If you're already invested in good Nikon glass then the Z7II would be the logical step. I have both the D850 and the Z7II. I've only recently picked up the Z7II so I cant tell you all the differences. I will say that even with the improved AF on the Z cameras, for wildlife and BIF, I'll keep my D850. For landscapes and portraits, I'm using the Z series because I like the new lenses for the mirrorless. However for image quality, the Z is a tad better IMO only because of the new lenses. If you pick up the adapter and used the F mount glass, it's really hard to see a difference between the D850 and the Z7II with F mount lenses. The Z is the lighter camera yet it still feels pretty good in the hands.

BebuLamar

Simple the D850 is equal to the Z7ii because B&H are selling both for the same price of $2996.95.

keywest305 Loc: Baltimore Md.

I thought about the Z series then back off. Some people have to get that new car every couple years and it was guilty myself but I have the D850 D500 D4s and D3s. They all do anything and everything I wanted always. I have 21 of the best lenses so too much invested. I look at the end result which is the finished picture and im happy. Maybe someday I will jump if a real big change comes but no just yet. I have compared the IQ of Z7ii and Z6ii to my D850 and D500 and can not see a difference. My D3s will be gone if any interest from someone since it only has 22,000 on it and it never use anymore.

markwilliam1

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IF I were starting from scratch, I'd go with the Canon R5, which by all accounts, is the best digital camera ever made and the Canon mirrorless glass gets stellar reviews.



agree. Canon R5 is the best bang for the buck if your going to purchase new mirrorless lens for the camera anyway. You could always wait until Nikon releases their new rumored cameras & wait until the reviews are out. Spec sheets & real world use can yield different results.
If your pockets are very deep, The Sony A1 seems promising if your into wildlife & low light shooting but, quite a bit more expensive. The Z7II should do everything as good as your D850 does, except sports & wildlife. The EVF is most likely better at everything except the fast continuous shooting black out.
What do you need or want from a mirrorless camera that your current camera doesn't do?[/quote]
You’ve never heard of the Sony Alpha 1 I assume?

dvbird

Thanks for all of your insights. Now, the reason for the question... I've been a one-camera guy. Right now that is a D7100 that I bought used several years ago, and I have a handful of lenses, none are top pro lenses. I had a chance to buy a very well used D850 at what I considered to be a very good price in spite of the use (~200k shutter count and looks very worn with bare metal on all of the outer edges). So, I considered what mirrorless I might be able to get for a similar price, and how it would compare. After reading your posts, and seeing what was actually for sale online, and at a few of the more prominent retailers, and considering that I won't be starting from scratch with my crop lenses, and a couple FX lenses, I decided to buy the very used D850. It's in transit now, and I'm pretty excited. I'm really looking for something to be a more serious landscape tool than the D7100 and Tamron 10-24mm that I have now. I'll keep the D7100 and leave the 18-300mm on it most of the time for shooting vacations, interesting stuff, the odd freebee family photo shoot I do for friends, and things the kids are doing, etc.

I don't always stay engaged in the conversations here, but I sure have learned a lot. Thanks again.

keywest305 Loc: Baltimore Md.

You can never go wrong with the D850. They camera that can do it all