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Feb 22, 2021 12:21:30   #
Ednsb Loc: Santa Barbara
 
drc023 wrote:
I know that you said you didn't need a 13x19 format printer, but I urge you to look into the Canon iX6820. If you decide it could work for you be sure to get it directly from Canon. They will probably give you a discount off the $179 price. You also could look at the iP8720 if you can find a decent buy. Canon is out of stock and other vendors have boosted the the price well above retail. Both use the 250/251 cartridges so you can easily refill if you decide to use refill ink, hopefully from Precision Colors or get 3rd party cartridges dirt cheap online. I have a Pro-100 and also an iP8720. The iP8720 is pretty close to the Pro-100. It's a 6 color printer and the iX6820 is 5 color. You could also consider a Canon Megatank printer. Ink from Canon for this line is around $13 per color for a 4oz bottle. My daughter has a Megatank printer and she is very pleased with it.
I know that you said you didn't need a 13x19 forma... (show quote)


about megatank, for photo printing?

Feb 22, 2021 12:39:49   #
drc023 Loc: North Little Rock, Arkansas
 
Ednsb wrote:
about megatank, for photo printing?


It depends on how demanding the user is. The Megatank printer my daughter has does a good job but not to the level of a Pro-100.

Feb 22, 2021 12:55:23   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Way too close to New York City
 
A few years ago my Xerox printer was starting to get old (12 years). Xerox had a deal for businesses. You order a printer. Pay for it over a year or two. Total cost was something like $1200-1600 depending on whether you chose the one or two year plan. The money you paid into it went into a fund that you could use to buy supplies (e.g. ink). At the end of all that you had a free printer (assuming you ordered enough supplies to use up all the money). I got a ColorQube printer. It's a commercial printer for offices. Does color and monochrome. Duplex printing. Handles up to 67 lb paper, 8.5x14.

The pictures are pretty good. I wouldn't call them wall hangers although I have hung a few around the house. The printer used a solid ink (wax pellets) which is easy to handle. The ink is waterproof (really nice on a farm stand although the paper would wrinkle when it got wet). The only drawback I've come across was that it you leave a stack of prints in the car on a hot day they start to stick together. And if you have a print behind glass when it gets hot it could smear the ink.

I don't think the price is too high for an office printer but it might be high for casual use. The first printer I got lasted 12 years with one service call (my business had a service plan for it). After 12 years they had moved on to newer models and parts weren't available so I got a new one. That was 5 years ago and it has not needed any service beyond normal replacement of a couple rollers (covered in the supplies orders and customer installable). I haven't checked recently but when I got the first printer I estimated that it cost about $0.25-0.40 for a full color letter size page. A monochrome page probably cost a bit more than a monochrome laser printer.

I retired from the business and kept the printer at home. I print greeting cards with it. I have a color letterhead that I use for correspondence. Makes nice looking letters. Don't know if Xerox still has that offer active but might be worth a look.

 
 
Feb 22, 2021 13:49:45   #
Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio
 
tcthome wrote:
Not sure on the budget but these shouldn't be to much over.

Epson XP 15000
Canon TS 8320

Check out vids on this guys channel. He will show some samples & hook you up with Precision Inks if you want to refill the ink for less.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz9YXaSulpM90vC24lmAeZA


I second the ts8320. Have it and the one before. 6carts aftermarket inks work well as do refills from Precision Color 6 carts available in xxl and prints very good quality

Feb 22, 2021 15:48:49   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
Sidwalkastronomy wrote:
My old printer, Canon Pixma MG 5220, might be having some minor issues and thinking of replacing it. I use a commercial lap, Meridan Pro, for my serious wall hangers, mostly 16 X20. They do a great job printing on metallic paper and double thickness mount board. I don't like matting them and never will.
My photo printing is for casual 8 x11.5 and 4 x6 for showing friends. I would like separate ink cartridges or possible ink tanks. Even though I'm not using it for wallhangers, I still want the best quality prints possible. As you all know ink is very expensive, and for the last year been using cheaper aftermarket ink with no problems. With a new printer I can't do this for warranty issues.
After reading reviews, most printers have some issues. I would like some real life experiences.
Because I'm not using it for my wall hangers, I haven't come up with budget yet. Thinking under $300 but not written in stone.
We all know the major cost of printing is the cost of ink, the most expensive liquid on earth.
I like Canon products but a friend has a HP with the per month ink plan but they are not great for serious photos from what I've read. Anything Canon I own has treated me well.
I'm open to all suggestions thanks.
My old printer, Canon Pixma MG 5220, might be havi... (show quote)

Take a serious look at Dye Sub printers. No problems with clogged inkjet heads and superb quality.

bwa

Feb 22, 2021 16:04:40   #
VeroPhoto Loc: free forum
 
i Use a Canon pro 100 with good results for 13x19 using Canon pro platinum paper matted to 18x24 in wood frames. Cartridge
8 pack $125 but got printer for $100 with rebate!

Feb 22, 2021 17:08:41   #
John Hicks Loc: Sible Hedinham North Essex England
 
I had the opposite AGO I bought a Canon printer from Amazon and after a fortnight returned it. I replaced with an Epson 1400 individual ink cartridges had it for five years, have to a friend of mine who was down on his luck and wanted a printer, bought an Epson 1500W. prints a 4 and A3. Individual cartridges and both printers use Claria ink, for those who don't know Claria ink is very fine droplet ink, use to send out to a professional print shop for my printing but with both of these printers the pictures they produce are in my opinion better than the pro shop, not sure if you can buy Claria ink in the States it might only be on sale here in the UK.

 
 
Feb 22, 2021 21:16:19   #
Henlopen Loc: Lewes, Delaware
 
drc023 wrote:
I know that you said you didn't need a 13x19 format printer, but I urge you to look into the Canon iX6820. If you decide it could work for you be sure to get it directly from Canon. They will probably give you a discount off the $179 price. You also could look at the iP8720 if you can find a decent buy. Canon is out of stock and other vendors have boosted the the price well above retail. Both use the 250/251 cartridges so you can easily refill if you decide to use refill ink, hopefully from Precision Colors or get 3rd party cartridges dirt cheap online. I have a Pro-100 and also an iP8720. The iP8720 is pretty close to the Pro-100. It's a 6 color printer and the iX6820 is 5 color.
I know that you said you didn't need a 13x19 forma... (show quote)


I've had the iP8720 for about 2 years now, and it's been great!

Feb 22, 2021 22:46:19   #
Nickaroo
 
Sidwalkastronomy wrote:
My old printer, Canon Pixma MG 5220, might be having some minor issues and thinking of replacing it. I use a commercial lap, Meridan Pro, for my serious wall hangers, mostly 16 X20. They do a great job printing on metallic paper and double thickness mount board. I don't like matting them and never will.
My photo printing is for casual 8 x11.5 and 4 x6 for showing friends. I would like separate ink cartridges or possible ink tanks. Even though I'm not using it for wallhangers, I still want the best quality prints possible. As you all know ink is very expensive, and for the last year been using cheaper aftermarket ink with no problems. With a new printer I can't do this for warranty issues.
After reading reviews, most printers have some issues. I would like some real life experiences.
Because I'm not using it for my wall hangers, I haven't come up with budget yet. Thinking under $300 but not written in stone.
We all know the major cost of printing is the cost of ink, the most expensive liquid on earth.
I like Canon products but a friend has a HP with the per month ink plan but they are not great for serious photos from what I've read. Anything Canon I own has treated me well.
I'm open to all suggestions thanks.
My old printer, Canon Pixma MG 5220, might be havi... (show quote)


Seriously, anymore I just have Artmill or BayPhoto do all of my developing. I'm just to busy to take the time to worry about printers. My Wife just bought a new Canon, I don't even no what model and could careless.

Feb 25, 2021 01:40:24   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Canon Pro-100 and Pro-10 are both discontinued models. You might still find one or the other new, but I'd be a little leery because sooner or later Canon will stop supporting them and it will be a problem getting inks or any repairs, if needed.

The Canon Pro-200 is replacement for the Pro-100. These are the more affordable 13" wide models that use dye based inks (8 cartridges).

The Pro-300 is the replacement model for the Pro-10. These are more expensive 13" wide models that use pigment-based inks (9 or 10 separate cartridges).

Actually, full sets of ink cartridges for all four printers cost roughly the same... around $125.

If you won't be printing any larger than 8x10 or 8.5x11, you really don't need those 13" wide printers. The problem is, no one is making photo quality printers any smaller than that now. But it's no problem printing 4x6 or 8x10 or whatever on a 13" wide printer. They do take up a lot of desk space, though... and weigh roughly 35 or 40 lb.

A "photo quality printer" typically has at least 6 ink colors: Cyan, Light Cyan, Magenta, Light Magenta, Yellow and Black. The additional cartridges in the Canon printers above add gray for better quality black & white prints, as well as other colors. The pigment printers also have a clear that's applied to even out the finish of some of the inks.

Good luck finding ANY 8.5" wide printer with even 6 ink colors. Maybe they're out there somewhere, but I couldn't find any online. I didn't realize 8.5" photo quality printer had become so rare. I had an 8.5", 6-color Epson for many years. Worked at first, though the inks were far from stable. Some prints exposed to a lot of sunlight faded in under a year. Plus, I don't know if they still do it, but Epson pre-programmed obsolescence into that printer... After a specified nubmer of prints it stopped working and gave a "printer worn out, replace printer" message. That was BS, it turned out. I found an app online that reset the page counter in the printer and it worked fine. In fact, I reset it 3 times, so it lived 4X longer than Epson intended. Eventually developed paper feed problems... So I replaced it with a Canon Pro-100, which I'm still using... MUCH better printer, far better and more long-lasting prints (100+ years for the dye inks... over 200 years claimed for the pigment inks).

"Eco tank" type printers are only 4 color and far from photo quality.

I'd avoid multi-purpose "all in one" printers, too... usually the scanner, fax or printer leave something to be desired... and the printers are typically far from "photo quality". Plus if any one of the components break down, you end up replacing the whole thing.

Feb 25, 2021 04:08:40   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Canon Pro-100 and Pro-10 are both discontinued models. You might still find one or the other new, but I'd be a little leery because sooner or later Canon will stop supporting them and it will be a problem getting inks or any repairs, if needed.

The Canon Pro-200 is replacement for the Pro-100. These are the more affordable 13" wide models that use dye based inks (8 cartridges).

The Pro-300 is the replacement model for the Pro-10. These are more expensive 13" wide models that use pigment-based inks (9 or 10 separate cartridges).

Actually, full sets of ink cartridges for all four printers cost roughly the same... around $125.

If you won't be printing any larger than 8x10 or 8.5x11, you really don't need those 13" wide printers. The problem is, no one is making photo quality printers any smaller than that now. But it's no problem printing 4x6 or 8x10 or whatever on a 13" wide printer. They do take up a lot of desk space, though... and weigh roughly 35 or 40 lb.

A "photo quality printer" typically has at least 6 ink colors: Cyan, Light Cyan, Magenta, Light Magenta, Yellow and Black. The additional cartridges in the Canon printers above add gray for better quality black & white prints, as well as other colors. The pigment printers also have a clear that's applied to even out the finish of some of the inks.

Good luck finding ANY 8.5" wide printer with even 6 ink colors. Maybe they're out there somewhere, but I couldn't find any online. I didn't realize 8.5" photo quality printer had become so rare. I had an 8.5", 6-color Epson for many years. Worked at first, though the inks were far from stable. Some prints exposed to a lot of sunlight faded in under a year. Plus, I don't know if they still do it, but Epson pre-programmed obsolescence into that printer... After a specified nubmer of prints it stopped working and gave a "printer worn out, replace printer" message. That was BS, it turned out. I found an app online that reset the page counter in the printer and it worked fine. In fact, I reset it 3 times, so it lived 4X longer than Epson intended. Eventually developed paper feed problems... So I replaced it with a Canon Pro-100, which I'm still using... MUCH better printer, far better and more long-lasting prints (100+ years for the dye inks... over 200 years claimed for the pigment inks).

"Eco tank" type printers are only 4 color and far from photo quality.

I'd avoid multi-purpose "all in one" printers, too... usually the scanner, fax or printer leave something to be desired... and the printers are typically far from "photo quality". Plus if any one of the components break down, you end up replacing the whole thing.
Canon Pro-100 and Pro-10 are both discontinued mod... (show quote)


Yes, Alan - a good summary of the overall printer situation - however, after much research, I recently purchased a Canon 3 in 1 8.5" (TS6350)which seems to do a decent job of all three functions (really means scanner and printer). Suits my landscapes and architecture prints. It may not produce those subtleties of tone required by portrait and fashion photographers or B/W - but, horses for courses.

 
 
Feb 25, 2021 06:53:01   #
Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Canon Pro-100 and Pro-10 are both discontinued models. You might still find one or the other new, but I'd be a little leery because sooner or later Canon will stop supporting them and it will be a problem getting inks or any repairs, if needed.

The Canon Pro-200 is replacement for the Pro-100. These are the more affordable 13" wide models that use dye based inks (8 cartridges).

The Pro-300 is the replacement model for the Pro-10. These are more expensive 13" wide models that use pigment-based inks (9 or 10 separate cartridges).

Actually, full sets of ink cartridges for all four printers cost roughly the same... around $125.

If you won't be printing any larger than 8x10 or 8.5x11, you really don't need those 13" wide printers. The problem is, no one is making photo quality printers any smaller than that now. But it's no problem printing 4x6 or 8x10 or whatever on a 13" wide printer. They do take up a lot of desk space, though... and weigh roughly 35 or 40 lb.

A "photo quality printer" typically has at least 6 ink colors: Cyan, Light Cyan, Magenta, Light Magenta, Yellow and Black. The additional cartridges in the Canon printers above add gray for better quality black & white prints, as well as other colors. The pigment printers also have a clear that's applied to even out the finish of some of the inks.

Good luck finding ANY 8.5" wide printer with even 6 ink colors. Maybe they're out there somewhere, but I couldn't find any online. I didn't realize 8.5" photo quality printer had become so rare. I had an 8.5", 6-color Epson for many years. Worked at first, though the inks were far from stable. Some prints exposed to a lot of sunlight faded in under a year. Plus, I don't know if they still do it, but Epson pre-programmed obsolescence into that printer... After a specified nubmer of prints it stopped working and gave a "printer worn out, replace printer" message. That was BS, it turned out. I found an app online that reset the page counter in the printer and it worked fine. In fact, I reset it 3 times, so it lived 4X longer than Epson intended. Eventually developed paper feed problems... So I replaced it with a Canon Pro-100, which I'm still using... MUCH better printer, far better and more long-lasting prints (100+ years for the dye inks... over 200 years claimed for the pigment inks).

"Eco tank" type printers are only 4 color and far from photo quality.

I'd avoid multi-purpose "all in one" printers, too... usually the scanner, fax or printer leave something to be desired... and the printers are typically far from "photo quality". Plus if any one of the components break down, you end up replacing the whole thing.
Canon Pro-100 and Pro-10 are both discontinued mod... (show quote)


The Cannon TS8220 and it's replacement model the TS 8320 both have 6ink cartridges and do a very nice job on photos. Also Precision Color has ink refill kits with icc profiles. 189.00 at best buy in stock. I own both because I stay at two places. I could not justify a pair of Pro200s. I am actually impressed with the quality and I am a perfectionist to a large degree. I have photos framed in my sunroom for 3 years now with no visible fading. My two cents

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