tlpgolf1 wrote:
Hi everyone
Trying to decide between 750 or 810. Have read reviews on both and like what I have read. One question I have is about the 810. I have read a couple reviews that say the 810 above iso of 3200 is fair at best. Anyone have experience with this. Plan on using either one for wildlife nature indoor outdoor landscape and Astro and low light. Have a D7200 now and old but goody F5 film. Thoughts on the issue I have read about
I have come to the point of cringing every time questions like yours come up here...not because of the question, which is fine, but because of the answers, which tend to be all over the map and rarely based on fact much at all. With that in mind, and with the advice that you should carefully weigh the value of every piece of advice hat you get, including mine, here are some things for you to think about.
First...you have listed a number of areas of photography in which you are interested. These present widely varying shooting environments and situations, and require a wide range of capabilities from whatever camera you choose. And whether you shoot JPEG or raw, you are going to need to be making a lot of camera adjustments as you move from one to another, if you do it right. For this reason alone, I would suggest that you strongly consider the D810. Its professional user interface, even though more different from your D7200 than the consumer user interface of the D750, will provide you with much more flexibility and will make the transitions easier and more mistake-proof once you learn how everything works. I'm guessing that you are working against a budget, so will not try to steer you anywhere but your two stated choices.
Now...for the whole low-light, high ISO thing...
I shot a D200 for years (about 9 years, in fact). I loved the rendition that its CCD sensor delivered. (And still do.) It was good to about ISO 400, but could still do fine in low light, because sensor noise in long exposures was nowhere near what it is in modern CMOS sensors. I'll hang on to that camera as long as it will capture an image. I then traded a big box of Olympus film equipment for a D300 and a D300s. They were a little better at higher ISOs, maybe to 800 or 1000, but still nowhere near today's cameras. I have a lot of images captured with them.
But about 4 years ago, when I was preparing to attend a night sky workshop, I bought a D810, knowing that I needed more capability in situations with very limited lighting. The D810 worked beautifully all the way up to ISO 6000 for the night sky, and I have used it way beyond that for other types of low light photography without any problems at all. Are the images the same as landscapes exposed at ISO 200? No. But it has nothing whatever to do with noise. It's because of the loss of dynamic range that occurs with ALL cameras and sensors when using high ISOs. The D810 (and the D750 and the D850 (and the D500, by the way) all have just about 5 stops of dynamic range left when you get to ISO 8000, and it continues to drop from there.
You can go to a site like Photons to Photos and see that the curve (line, really) for the D750 is a hair's breadth higher than the one for the D810. The one for the D850 sits a tiny bit higher than either of them. But the truth is that the difference is not enough to talk about. And it's not enough to make a difference, either, if you know how to use the camera that you have. If the D810 "is fair at best" above ISO 3200, then a review that is honest and truthful would have to say exactly the same thing about the S750 (or the D850...see the next paragraph).
I have now attended two night sky workshops, where I've learned two different approaches to the problem. One focused on using the highest reasonable ISO, the other focused on backing off the ISO a little and trusting the camera's dynamic range. Both work fine. I've also bought a second camera so that I don't have to worry about trying to change lenses in the dark. The second one is a D850. From an exposure standpoint, I consider it essentially identical to the D810. But it works a little bit better overall, because the sensor elements are smaller. (Since a star is a point source of light, it all fits on one sensor element if focused properly. Higher resolution is therefore better.
So if I were you, I would just decide whether 24MP will meet your needs (and if you are prepared to deal with the impacts of the larger files from a 36MP image) and whether you can see a benefit of the professional user interface of the D810. Those two factors will give you enough to tink about. And don't ignore what Gene said just above.